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  • L Le centriste

    ZurdoDev wrote:

    I'm sorry that facts offend you

    Which facts are supposedly offending me?

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    ZurdoDev
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    Very Large Brain wrote:

    Which facts are supposedly offending me?

    All of them.

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      Very Large Brain wrote:

      Which facts are supposedly offending me?

      All of them.

      Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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      Le centriste
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      Not answering the question....

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      • Z ZurdoDev

        Weirdly, it seems to me that foreigners like to bring this up more than Americans, that is that Trump had said that Mexico will pay for the wall. 1. When was the last time you held any politician accountable for what they claimed during campaigning? 2. Most Americans that voted for Trump never believed that Mexico would pay for the wall. I think you all have beat this horse to death. :doh: When you keep bringing it up, it makes it appear that you are a sore loser, which is weird since you didn't even vote at all. And to be fair, IF the wall actually gets built Mexico WILL pay for it. Maybe not directly but they'll have to start dealing with their problems instead of allowing their problems to flee to our country. :^)

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        jeron1
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        "Read my lips...", was a fairly easy target in '92.

        "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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          "Read my lips...", was a fairly easy target in '92.

          "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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          Lost User
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          That got me thinking. What do people really remember about presidents? JFK - "Ask not what your country can do for you..." Richard Nixon - "I am not a crook." Gerald Ford - Slap-Stick (always falling down), nothing of note about his speeches, just Chevy Chase. Jimmy Carter - Brother Billy and his beer. Again, nothing of note about his speeches. Ronald Reagan - "I can not recall." George H. Bush - "Read my lips...", "New World Order..." Bill Clinton - "I did not have sexual relations with that woman!", the meaning of IS. George W. Bush - Just everything.... :confused: :omg: Barack Obama - Birth Certificate (I can't recall any particular speech.) Donald Trump - The Wall, "You are fake news." It seems like things have really gone down hill since the death of JFK. :confused:

          "When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others; same thing when you are stupid." Ignorant - An individual without knowledge, but is willing to learn. Stupid - An individual without knowledge and is incapable of learning. Idiot - An individual without knowledge and allows social media to do the thinking for them.

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            That got me thinking. What do people really remember about presidents? JFK - "Ask not what your country can do for you..." Richard Nixon - "I am not a crook." Gerald Ford - Slap-Stick (always falling down), nothing of note about his speeches, just Chevy Chase. Jimmy Carter - Brother Billy and his beer. Again, nothing of note about his speeches. Ronald Reagan - "I can not recall." George H. Bush - "Read my lips...", "New World Order..." Bill Clinton - "I did not have sexual relations with that woman!", the meaning of IS. George W. Bush - Just everything.... :confused: :omg: Barack Obama - Birth Certificate (I can't recall any particular speech.) Donald Trump - The Wall, "You are fake news." It seems like things have really gone down hill since the death of JFK. :confused:

            "When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others; same thing when you are stupid." Ignorant - An individual without knowledge, but is willing to learn. Stupid - An individual without knowledge and is incapable of learning. Idiot - An individual without knowledge and allows social media to do the thinking for them.

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            jeron1
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            It does seem that way yes, I can't say whether it's that actual politicians or has the media altered its agenda, probably some of both. Can I add "but didn't inhale" that list? :laugh:

            "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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              It does seem that way yes, I can't say whether it's that actual politicians or has the media altered its agenda, probably some of both. Can I add "but didn't inhale" that list? :laugh:

              "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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              :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

              "When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others; same thing when you are stupid." Ignorant - An individual without knowledge, but is willing to learn. Stupid - An individual without knowledge and is incapable of learning. Idiot - An individual without knowledge and allows social media to do the thinking for them.

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              • J jeron1

                "Read my lips...", was a fairly easy target in '92.

                "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                ZurdoDev
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                Yep, I remember that one.

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                • L Lost User

                  That got me thinking. What do people really remember about presidents? JFK - "Ask not what your country can do for you..." Richard Nixon - "I am not a crook." Gerald Ford - Slap-Stick (always falling down), nothing of note about his speeches, just Chevy Chase. Jimmy Carter - Brother Billy and his beer. Again, nothing of note about his speeches. Ronald Reagan - "I can not recall." George H. Bush - "Read my lips...", "New World Order..." Bill Clinton - "I did not have sexual relations with that woman!", the meaning of IS. George W. Bush - Just everything.... :confused: :omg: Barack Obama - Birth Certificate (I can't recall any particular speech.) Donald Trump - The Wall, "You are fake news." It seems like things have really gone down hill since the death of JFK. :confused:

                  "When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others; same thing when you are stupid." Ignorant - An individual without knowledge, but is willing to learn. Stupid - An individual without knowledge and is incapable of learning. Idiot - An individual without knowledge and allows social media to do the thinking for them.

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                  Lost User
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                  Odd... I remember a whole different set of things about the presidents. JFK - Escalated Vietnam, Marilyn Monroe, Cuban missile crisis, assassination. LBJ - Total hypocrite. Massive expansion in Vietnam. Nixon - Crook but peace with China. Ford - Not much but pardoned Nixon. Carter - High oil prices, higher interest rates, Iran hostages. Reagan - Fixed the economy, fall of the USSR, Iran/Contra. Bush 1 - Gulf War 1 (if you can even call it a war), lost 2nd term due to Ross Perot. Clinton - Dotcom bubble, failed attempt to "fix" healthcare, good economy, many scandals. Bush 2 - 9/11, Gulf War 2, WMDs, seriously biased left-wing media is born. Obama - Weaponized the IRS and DOJ. Community organizer. Media gives him a pass on all matters. Trump - Fake news. Actually trying to fulfill campaign promises. Arrogant. Lies a lot.

                  The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.

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                    Odd... I remember a whole different set of things about the presidents. JFK - Escalated Vietnam, Marilyn Monroe, Cuban missile crisis, assassination. LBJ - Total hypocrite. Massive expansion in Vietnam. Nixon - Crook but peace with China. Ford - Not much but pardoned Nixon. Carter - High oil prices, higher interest rates, Iran hostages. Reagan - Fixed the economy, fall of the USSR, Iran/Contra. Bush 1 - Gulf War 1 (if you can even call it a war), lost 2nd term due to Ross Perot. Clinton - Dotcom bubble, failed attempt to "fix" healthcare, good economy, many scandals. Bush 2 - 9/11, Gulf War 2, WMDs, seriously biased left-wing media is born. Obama - Weaponized the IRS and DOJ. Community organizer. Media gives him a pass on all matters. Trump - Fake news. Actually trying to fulfill campaign promises. Arrogant. Lies a lot.

                    The Beer Prayer - Our lager, which art in barrels, hallowed be thy drink. Thy will be drunk, I will be drunk, at home as it is in the tavern. Give us this day our foamy head, and forgive us our spillage as we forgive those who spill against us. And lead us not to incarceration, but deliver us from hangovers. For thine is the beer, the bitter and the lager, for ever and ever. Barmen.

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                    Lost User
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                    Wow! So many memories... Where's the Jack? I have so many brain cells to kill off. :-\

                    "When you are dead, you won't even know that you are dead. It's a pain only felt by others; same thing when you are stupid." Ignorant - An individual without knowledge, but is willing to learn. Stupid - An individual without knowledge and is incapable of learning. Idiot - An individual without knowledge and allows social media to do the thinking for them.

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                    • Z ZurdoDev

                      Very Large Brain wrote:

                      Nor answering your stupid questions.

                      Proof you're trolling. :zzz:

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                      Manfred Rudolf Bihy
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                      Or it's just that you're an asshole?

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                        Or it's just that you're an asshole?

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                        ZurdoDev
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                        How so?

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                        • Z ZurdoDev

                          Weirdly, it seems to me that foreigners like to bring this up more than Americans, that is that Trump had said that Mexico will pay for the wall. 1. When was the last time you held any politician accountable for what they claimed during campaigning? 2. Most Americans that voted for Trump never believed that Mexico would pay for the wall. I think you all have beat this horse to death. :doh: When you keep bringing it up, it makes it appear that you are a sore loser, which is weird since you didn't even vote at all. And to be fair, IF the wall actually gets built Mexico WILL pay for it. Maybe not directly but they'll have to start dealing with their problems instead of allowing their problems to flee to our country. :^)

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                          Mycroft Holmes
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                          And yet you, presumably a non foreigner, is bringing it up. Being a foreigner I don't really have a political opinion on trump (I agree with JSOP on this) but he is bloody funny, except he potentially has a finger on a nuclear button. As for 1, pollies need to be held accountable, boil the bastard in oil when they are caught out!

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                            And yet you, presumably a non foreigner, is bringing it up. Being a foreigner I don't really have a political opinion on trump (I agree with JSOP on this) but he is bloody funny, except he potentially has a finger on a nuclear button. As for 1, pollies need to be held accountable, boil the bastard in oil when they are caught out!

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                            ZurdoDev
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                            Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                            And yet you, presumably a non foreigner, is bringing it up.

                            :laugh: :laugh: :thumbsup: How can you talk about something without bringing it up?

                            Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                            As for 1, pollies need to be held accountable, boil the bastard in oil when they are caught out!

                            Oh HECK NO!!! There are so many secret agreements between countries and departments within the government that until you get into that position and see what is ACTUALLY happening, you have no clue whatsoever if you can actually keep your own promises.

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                              Weirdly, it seems to me that foreigners like to bring this up more than Americans, that is that Trump had said that Mexico will pay for the wall. 1. When was the last time you held any politician accountable for what they claimed during campaigning? 2. Most Americans that voted for Trump never believed that Mexico would pay for the wall. I think you all have beat this horse to death. :doh: When you keep bringing it up, it makes it appear that you are a sore loser, which is weird since you didn't even vote at all. And to be fair, IF the wall actually gets built Mexico WILL pay for it. Maybe not directly but they'll have to start dealing with their problems instead of allowing their problems to flee to our country. :^)

                              Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                              And now, perhaps, money confiscated from El Chapo might be routed to wall-building. *A* Mexican may be paying for the wall. Wouldn't that be a hoot? :laugh:

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                              • Z ZurdoDev

                                Very Large Brain wrote:

                                You voted for him knowing he was lying.

                                Who said he was lying?

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                                ZurdoDev wrote:

                                Who said he was lying?

                                Umm ... you did?

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                                1. When was the last time you held any politician accountable for what they claimed during campaigning? 2. Most Americans that voted for Trump never believed that Mexico would pay for the wall.

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                                • M Manfred Rudolf Bihy

                                  Or it's just that you're an asshole?

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                                  ZurdoDev
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                                  It's telling that you could not answer. I accept your surrender. Too many emotions from you guys.

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                                    ZurdoDev wrote:

                                    Who said he was lying?

                                    Umm ... you did?

                                    Quote:

                                    1. When was the last time you held any politician accountable for what they claimed during campaigning? 2. Most Americans that voted for Trump never believed that Mexico would pay for the wall.

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                                    ZurdoDev
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                                    OriginalGriff wrote:

                                    you did?

                                    No. I don't know what Trump believed or not so how could I know if he was lying or not?

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                                      OriginalGriff wrote:

                                      you did?

                                      No. I don't know what Trump believed or not so how could I know if he was lying or not?

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                                      If he really truly believed in what he was saying it's not a lie, it's just an utter failure.

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                                        If he really truly believed in what he was saying it's not a lie, it's just an utter failure.

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                                        ZurdoDev
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                                        Urban Cricket wrote:

                                        If he really truly believed in what he was saying it's not a lie,

                                        Exactly. Which is why I can't say if he's lying or not regardless of my believing it or not.

                                        Urban Cricket wrote:

                                        utter failure.

                                        How so? The wall is not built. So, the possibility, although unlikely like I already said, it could still happen.

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                                        • Z ZurdoDev

                                          Urban Cricket wrote:

                                          If he really truly believed in what he was saying it's not a lie,

                                          Exactly. Which is why I can't say if he's lying or not regardless of my believing it or not.

                                          Urban Cricket wrote:

                                          utter failure.

                                          How so? The wall is not built. So, the possibility, although unlikely like I already said, it could still happen.

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                                          It's a Schroedinger's wall: It both exists and doesn't exist until Trump promises to build it :)

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