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  • P Paul Watson

    Is $25 a reasonable amount of money to you? To me it is, it is not an amount I will spend on a whim. It is the equivalent of two hundred and fifty South African Rand. That is the same as 10 prime time movie tickets or 25 Big Macs. I ask because David Stone was quite amazed that I am hesitant to pay $25 for Trillian Pro. $25 which to him was spent quite easily. $25 to me which I simply won't pay for Trillian Pro, the free version does well enough. (This also brings up the question about shareware authors and how they price their goods.) For those who live in first world countries; Do you realise that $25 to most of the world is not peanuts, that it is an amount which careful thought is given to on spending? Actually it is an amount that many simply don't have. Even for a middle class white boy like me living in a reasonable third world country like South Africa $25 is a lot of money. Just curious, David Stone was quite amazed :)

    Paul Watson
    Bluegrass
    Cape Town, South Africa

    Vivek Rajan wrote (about the Matrix): I assume they are using low colors because they want faster rendering using cheaper hardware... ...Cmon - atleast use 256 colors...

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    Jon Sagara
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    Paul Watson wrote: Is $25 a reasonable amount of money to you? Yes.

    Jon Sagara
    In India, when someone says "mad cow", you know it's actually a bull charging at him. -- Rohit Sinha

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    • P Paul Watson

      Is $25 a reasonable amount of money to you? To me it is, it is not an amount I will spend on a whim. It is the equivalent of two hundred and fifty South African Rand. That is the same as 10 prime time movie tickets or 25 Big Macs. I ask because David Stone was quite amazed that I am hesitant to pay $25 for Trillian Pro. $25 which to him was spent quite easily. $25 to me which I simply won't pay for Trillian Pro, the free version does well enough. (This also brings up the question about shareware authors and how they price their goods.) For those who live in first world countries; Do you realise that $25 to most of the world is not peanuts, that it is an amount which careful thought is given to on spending? Actually it is an amount that many simply don't have. Even for a middle class white boy like me living in a reasonable third world country like South Africa $25 is a lot of money. Just curious, David Stone was quite amazed :)

      Paul Watson
      Bluegrass
      Cape Town, South Africa

      Vivek Rajan wrote (about the Matrix): I assume they are using low colors because they want faster rendering using cheaper hardware... ...Cmon - atleast use 256 colors...

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      Chris Richardson
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      Well, considering when I go out tonight with my girlfriend, I will probably spend $100 in an hour and a half at the bar, no, $25 is not a lot of money to me (except when money gets tight :)). Here's a table of what things cost around here: - A tank of gas in my Jeep == $25 - Dinner for two at an average restaurant (not fancy) == $45 - Case of beer (24) == $19 - Food for a week from the grocery store == $40 I live in a suburb of Minneapolis, MN, USA. Not one of the more expensive places to live. Chris Richardson
      Terrain Software

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      • R Russell Morris

        Paul Watson wrote: That is the same as 10 prime time movie tickets or 25 Big Macs. Movie tickets in the 'States tend to go for around $8. My incredibly cheap rent, per month, is $600 + utilities -- Russell Morris "Have you gone mad Frink? Put down that science pole!"

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        Joshua Quick
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        In the San Francisco area, movie tickets now cost $9.25. So, $25 will allow you to buy 2 tickets and maybe one small drink. Don't get me started on rent. I'm paying $1500 for 2 bedroom, which is $500 less than what I was paying 3 years ago during the .COM boom.

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        • P Paul Watson

          Is $25 a reasonable amount of money to you? To me it is, it is not an amount I will spend on a whim. It is the equivalent of two hundred and fifty South African Rand. That is the same as 10 prime time movie tickets or 25 Big Macs. I ask because David Stone was quite amazed that I am hesitant to pay $25 for Trillian Pro. $25 which to him was spent quite easily. $25 to me which I simply won't pay for Trillian Pro, the free version does well enough. (This also brings up the question about shareware authors and how they price their goods.) For those who live in first world countries; Do you realise that $25 to most of the world is not peanuts, that it is an amount which careful thought is given to on spending? Actually it is an amount that many simply don't have. Even for a middle class white boy like me living in a reasonable third world country like South Africa $25 is a lot of money. Just curious, David Stone was quite amazed :)

          Paul Watson
          Bluegrass
          Cape Town, South Africa

          Vivek Rajan wrote (about the Matrix): I assume they are using low colors because they want faster rendering using cheaper hardware... ...Cmon - atleast use 256 colors...

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          David Wulff
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          That's what, £15? (It is, I checked the exchange rates). If I had it in my hand walking home I would probably spend it on snacks just for the journey and maybe a magazine or two. I'd probably keep a fiver back just to avoid breaking into anything bigger for the odd newspaper here and there. I'm not rich by any means, well not like that, but pocket change is not worth holding onto IMHO. Look at it in perspective - £15 is one round at the pub for four people.


          David Wulff

          "Without hopes and dreams we're directionless" - Anna

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          • P Paul Watson

            Is $25 a reasonable amount of money to you? To me it is, it is not an amount I will spend on a whim. It is the equivalent of two hundred and fifty South African Rand. That is the same as 10 prime time movie tickets or 25 Big Macs. I ask because David Stone was quite amazed that I am hesitant to pay $25 for Trillian Pro. $25 which to him was spent quite easily. $25 to me which I simply won't pay for Trillian Pro, the free version does well enough. (This also brings up the question about shareware authors and how they price their goods.) For those who live in first world countries; Do you realise that $25 to most of the world is not peanuts, that it is an amount which careful thought is given to on spending? Actually it is an amount that many simply don't have. Even for a middle class white boy like me living in a reasonable third world country like South Africa $25 is a lot of money. Just curious, David Stone was quite amazed :)

            Paul Watson
            Bluegrass
            Cape Town, South Africa

            Vivek Rajan wrote (about the Matrix): I assume they are using low colors because they want faster rendering using cheaper hardware... ...Cmon - atleast use 256 colors...

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            Wesner Moise
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            My wife is from China. She always saves every last bit of money--she won't spare a few dollars. Her brother makes $500 a month in China (more than she did when she was in China), whereas she makes over $5000/month here. Food and clothing are very cheap in China. When we went to China, we took out around 12 people to a very formal restaurant with excellent food and excellent ambience and service--and we paid for the whole dinner, which may have been like $25 for everything. It would have been like $40 bucks per person or $500 total here considering the quality of the restaurant. I can tell that she has a strong sense of the value of each dollar she spends, because she is constantly converting it to Chinese yuan in her mind--and she knows she can already do quite well in China if she were to go back with what she is currently making. She does not want to spend anything, because everything she buys feels expensive. She saves money like crazy; even with the lower amount of money made in China, the Chinese still have a saving rate. For me, $25 is nothing; I spend it very easily. But then again, I made quite a bit from stock options and my salary is well above average. Thanks, Wes

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            • P Paul Watson

              Is $25 a reasonable amount of money to you? To me it is, it is not an amount I will spend on a whim. It is the equivalent of two hundred and fifty South African Rand. That is the same as 10 prime time movie tickets or 25 Big Macs. I ask because David Stone was quite amazed that I am hesitant to pay $25 for Trillian Pro. $25 which to him was spent quite easily. $25 to me which I simply won't pay for Trillian Pro, the free version does well enough. (This also brings up the question about shareware authors and how they price their goods.) For those who live in first world countries; Do you realise that $25 to most of the world is not peanuts, that it is an amount which careful thought is given to on spending? Actually it is an amount that many simply don't have. Even for a middle class white boy like me living in a reasonable third world country like South Africa $25 is a lot of money. Just curious, David Stone was quite amazed :)

              Paul Watson
              Bluegrass
              Cape Town, South Africa

              Vivek Rajan wrote (about the Matrix): I assume they are using low colors because they want faster rendering using cheaper hardware... ...Cmon - atleast use 256 colors...

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              Ravi Bhavnani
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              That's a very interesting question.  $25 buys me:

              • an hour's phonecall to my parents in India
              • 8 dinners at home
              • 2 months' supply of orange juice
              • almost a week's worth of gasoline
              • 83% of my pair of sturdy, comfortable and unfashionable shoes
              • almost 2 pairs of Wrangler jeans on sale at Walmart
              • half a month of cable internet
              • almost 2 months' subscription to Netflix

              Yes, I'd say $25 is a lot. But I agree with Chris. I'd spring $25 for a piece of software if it saved me time and/or sufficiently increased the quality of my work (or play). /ravi Let's put "civil" back in "civilization" Home | Articles | Freeware | Music ravib@ravib.com

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              • P Paul Watson

                Is $25 a reasonable amount of money to you? To me it is, it is not an amount I will spend on a whim. It is the equivalent of two hundred and fifty South African Rand. That is the same as 10 prime time movie tickets or 25 Big Macs. I ask because David Stone was quite amazed that I am hesitant to pay $25 for Trillian Pro. $25 which to him was spent quite easily. $25 to me which I simply won't pay for Trillian Pro, the free version does well enough. (This also brings up the question about shareware authors and how they price their goods.) For those who live in first world countries; Do you realise that $25 to most of the world is not peanuts, that it is an amount which careful thought is given to on spending? Actually it is an amount that many simply don't have. Even for a middle class white boy like me living in a reasonable third world country like South Africa $25 is a lot of money. Just curious, David Stone was quite amazed :)

                Paul Watson
                Bluegrass
                Cape Town, South Africa

                Vivek Rajan wrote (about the Matrix): I assume they are using low colors because they want faster rendering using cheaper hardware... ...Cmon - atleast use 256 colors...

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                Mangesh Sardesai
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                This is not just the question for shareware. The same applies to all categories of software. $799 VS.Net would cost thousands of rupees in India where as what an average person earns is far less. Maybe this is also one of the reason for software piracy. Many of the technical books are available for much lower cost (Economy editions specifically targeted for Indian subcontinent) than their original counterparts which again cost ( Price in Dollars * Exchange Rate ). I think the software companies should adopt the similar policy for retail sales. M$ :):):):):)

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                • P Paul Watson

                  Is $25 a reasonable amount of money to you? To me it is, it is not an amount I will spend on a whim. It is the equivalent of two hundred and fifty South African Rand. That is the same as 10 prime time movie tickets or 25 Big Macs. I ask because David Stone was quite amazed that I am hesitant to pay $25 for Trillian Pro. $25 which to him was spent quite easily. $25 to me which I simply won't pay for Trillian Pro, the free version does well enough. (This also brings up the question about shareware authors and how they price their goods.) For those who live in first world countries; Do you realise that $25 to most of the world is not peanuts, that it is an amount which careful thought is given to on spending? Actually it is an amount that many simply don't have. Even for a middle class white boy like me living in a reasonable third world country like South Africa $25 is a lot of money. Just curious, David Stone was quite amazed :)

                  Paul Watson
                  Bluegrass
                  Cape Town, South Africa

                  Vivek Rajan wrote (about the Matrix): I assume they are using low colors because they want faster rendering using cheaper hardware... ...Cmon - atleast use 256 colors...

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                  Pavel Klocek
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                  Yes, it is. Not too high (12,5 BigMACs, 5 movie tickets), but to buy a software for this price, it must be something helpful. I surely would stay by the free version, if it's sufficient. Pavel Sonork 100.15206

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                  • P Paul Watson

                    Is $25 a reasonable amount of money to you? To me it is, it is not an amount I will spend on a whim. It is the equivalent of two hundred and fifty South African Rand. That is the same as 10 prime time movie tickets or 25 Big Macs. I ask because David Stone was quite amazed that I am hesitant to pay $25 for Trillian Pro. $25 which to him was spent quite easily. $25 to me which I simply won't pay for Trillian Pro, the free version does well enough. (This also brings up the question about shareware authors and how they price their goods.) For those who live in first world countries; Do you realise that $25 to most of the world is not peanuts, that it is an amount which careful thought is given to on spending? Actually it is an amount that many simply don't have. Even for a middle class white boy like me living in a reasonable third world country like South Africa $25 is a lot of money. Just curious, David Stone was quite amazed :)

                    Paul Watson
                    Bluegrass
                    Cape Town, South Africa

                    Vivek Rajan wrote (about the Matrix): I assume they are using low colors because they want faster rendering using cheaper hardware... ...Cmon - atleast use 256 colors...

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                    ColinDavies
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                    25$ for me is a minor treasure in my Domestic life, However in my commercial life it's peanuts. I'm quite comfortable to go out and spend 5,000,0000 NZ$ tommorrow buying an investment property or whatever if it makes fiscal sense for my group. However I think several times before spending an extra 40$NZ (abt 25$ US) on something that will give no return. -- Maybe my case is a bit different to most others. Regardz Colin J Davies

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                    • M Mangesh Sardesai

                      This is not just the question for shareware. The same applies to all categories of software. $799 VS.Net would cost thousands of rupees in India where as what an average person earns is far less. Maybe this is also one of the reason for software piracy. Many of the technical books are available for much lower cost (Economy editions specifically targeted for Indian subcontinent) than their original counterparts which again cost ( Price in Dollars * Exchange Rate ). I think the software companies should adopt the similar policy for retail sales. M$ :):):):):)

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                      Tim Craig
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                      So US software companies should sell you software at a discounted rate, which means the rest of us subsidize you to compete with us at lower salaries? Hmmmmm.....

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                      • P Paul Watson

                        Is $25 a reasonable amount of money to you? To me it is, it is not an amount I will spend on a whim. It is the equivalent of two hundred and fifty South African Rand. That is the same as 10 prime time movie tickets or 25 Big Macs. I ask because David Stone was quite amazed that I am hesitant to pay $25 for Trillian Pro. $25 which to him was spent quite easily. $25 to me which I simply won't pay for Trillian Pro, the free version does well enough. (This also brings up the question about shareware authors and how they price their goods.) For those who live in first world countries; Do you realise that $25 to most of the world is not peanuts, that it is an amount which careful thought is given to on spending? Actually it is an amount that many simply don't have. Even for a middle class white boy like me living in a reasonable third world country like South Africa $25 is a lot of money. Just curious, David Stone was quite amazed :)

                        Paul Watson
                        Bluegrass
                        Cape Town, South Africa

                        Vivek Rajan wrote (about the Matrix): I assume they are using low colors because they want faster rendering using cheaper hardware... ...Cmon - atleast use 256 colors...

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                        Jorgen Sigvardsson
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                        Paul Watson wrote: That is the same as 10 prime time movie tickets or 25 Big Macs What?! 10 movies!? 25 Big Macs?? Ok, next years vacation will be in South Africa. :) -- I'm the figure head on a ship of fools

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