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  • D den2k88

    There is none. Field, property, attribute are mostly interchangeable AFAIK.

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    den2k88 wrote:

    property, attribute are mostly interchangeable AFAIK

    disagree, it's contextually dependent. Example: a yellow banana property: banana - it can not be anything else (excluding if destroyed) attribute: color: yellow - the color of the banana can change - left alone will become brown, black, slime, destroyed but the color itself (not color of the banana) is a property. yellow is yellow, it can be no other.

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      Lopatir wrote:

      Can't move it, it's fixed.

      In .Net, properties can have get and set methods which means they are not treated that way, in .Net at least.

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      No, I don't mean in .Net, I mean semantically.

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        Within .Net, my understanding is that a property will have a getter and/or a setter with possibly some logic in them. And an attribute would just be a public variable, for example, where there is no logic in the get and set. But that is just from my experience, nothing official. Could be totally wrong.

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        I know the difference in .Net, it's the lingual difference or semantics I'm after.

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          Within .Net, my understanding is that a property will have a getter and/or a setter with possibly some logic in them. And an attribute would just be a public variable, for example, where there is no logic in the get and set. But that is just from my experience, nothing official. Could be totally wrong.

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          OP:

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          No, I don't mean in .Net, I mean semantically.

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            Jörgen Andersson wrote:

            Or is there an even better word?

            A feature.

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            So a bug? :~

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              OP:

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              No, I don't mean in .Net, I mean semantically.

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              Yes, I read that. But the meaning in .Net might actually be the real meaning. Just saying.

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              • L Lost User

                a property is, well a property - the land under your house. Can't move it, it's fixed. an attribute is the house, can replace it, can completely remove it, grass is an attribute, a hole in the proptery is an attribute - all those can be changed. sooo, everything about your car is an attribute. The fact it is a car is a property. ok, can get silly and ask "what if I remove all the wheels, is it still a car?" well, it weelie is still a car, just missing some of it's attributes (so not a very useful car).

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                Jorgen Andersson
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                Lopatir wrote:

                sooo, everything about your car is an attribute. The fact it is a car is a property.

                So the colour of the car is an attribute. The wheel is a property in it self, but an attribute to the car?

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                • J Jorgen Andersson

                  No, I don't mean in .Net, I mean semantically. Say for example I want to describe a car. It has a colour, top speed, engine size, length, leather seats and so on. When is it an attribute and when is it a property? Or is there an even better word?

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                  Most English speakers don't use those terms. We tend to say watchamacallit, or thingummybob, or just point at it. :laugh:

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                  • J Jorgen Andersson

                    No, I don't mean in .Net, I mean semantically. Say for example I want to describe a car. It has a colour, top speed, engine size, length, leather seats and so on. When is it an attribute and when is it a property? Or is there an even better word?

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                    I'd say that the two words were essentially synonymous outside of IT.

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                      So a bug? :~

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                      So a bug?

                      No, no. A Bug is an "undocumented feature"; a "feature" is just something that might or might not work.

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                      • J Jorgen Andersson

                        No, I don't mean in .Net, I mean semantically. Say for example I want to describe a car. It has a colour, top speed, engine size, length, leather seats and so on. When is it an attribute and when is it a property? Or is there an even better word?

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                        Forogar
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                        In the English language "property" and "attribute" are exactly the same meaning in the case where "property" is a property of an object such as "a banana is yellow". In this case, "yellow" is an attribute or property of the banana. If you are buying a house then the house can be referred to as a "property" but this is a different meaning and has nothing to do with "attribute". You can also "attribute" a quotation to a given person but this is a different meaning and has nothing to do with "property". Additionally, you can say, "That is my property" when referring to an object that belongs to you. Again, nothing to do with "attribute".

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                          In the English language "property" and "attribute" are exactly the same meaning in the case where "property" is a property of an object such as "a banana is yellow". In this case, "yellow" is an attribute or property of the banana. If you are buying a house then the house can be referred to as a "property" but this is a different meaning and has nothing to do with "attribute". You can also "attribute" a quotation to a given person but this is a different meaning and has nothing to do with "property". Additionally, you can say, "That is my property" when referring to an object that belongs to you. Again, nothing to do with "attribute".

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                          Jorgen Andersson
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                          I was hoping one was more related to nouns and the other one to adjectives or adverbs

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                            So a bug?

                            No, no. A Bug is an "undocumented feature"; a "feature" is just something that might or might not work.

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                            If the undocumented feature is working, is it still a bug?

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                              a property is, well a property - the land under your house. Can't move it, it's fixed. an attribute is the house, can replace it, can completely remove it, grass is an attribute, a hole in the proptery is an attribute - all those can be changed. sooo, everything about your car is an attribute. The fact it is a car is a property. ok, can get silly and ask "what if I remove all the wheels, is it still a car?" well, it weelie is still a car, just missing some of it's attributes (so not a very useful car).

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                              What if I added some more properties and turned it into a boat and a helicopter all at once? Also it's important that it runs on raspberry juice (or whale oil) and has a robot as the pilot[^].

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                                den2k88 wrote:

                                property, attribute are mostly interchangeable AFAIK

                                disagree, it's contextually dependent. Example: a yellow banana property: banana - it can not be anything else (excluding if destroyed) attribute: color: yellow - the color of the banana can change - left alone will become brown, black, slime, destroyed but the color itself (not color of the banana) is a property. yellow is yellow, it can be no other.

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                                Nah, Banana would by the type and Colour would be a property/attribute of the Banana type

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                                  I rather liked this one. bookmarked.

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                                  • J Jorgen Andersson

                                    I was hoping one was more related to nouns and the other one to adjectives or adverbs

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                                    Isn't the English language fun! :-D

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                                      den2k88 wrote:

                                      property, attribute are mostly interchangeable AFAIK

                                      disagree, it's contextually dependent. Example: a yellow banana property: banana - it can not be anything else (excluding if destroyed) attribute: color: yellow - the color of the banana can change - left alone will become brown, black, slime, destroyed but the color itself (not color of the banana) is a property. yellow is yellow, it can be no other.

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                                      property is the value of an attribute?

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                                        property is the value of an attribute?

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                                        PIEBALDconsult
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                                        They other way around maybe.

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                                          I was hoping one was more related to nouns and the other one to adjectives or adverbs

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                                          Nope! It's just that simple. Two words for the same thing; just like "motorcar" and "automobile". The English language has a lot of redundancy because we stole a lot of our words from several different languages so we end up with a lot of duplicate use cases.

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