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    Marc Clifton
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    I'm referring to Sublime and Visual Studio Code. VSCode: look, when I Alt-F-S to save the file, put the cursor back on the document. I do not want to have to click on the document. VSCode: Page up and down should move the document up and down a full screen page. Don't just move the cursor first to the top or bottom of the page. VSCode: Shift up/down arrows. For f***cks sake, if I scroll past where the cursor is, so the cursor goes "off screen", move the cursor to top or bottom of the screen. Otherwise, shift up/down followed by up/down takes me back to wherever the cursor was when it scrolled off the screen. Sublime: Your bookmarks suck. Sublime: WTF happened to performance? All of a sudden everything is dog slow, which is why I switched to that POC VSCode. VSCode: Learn some lessons on how to do global search from Sublime. I think I'm just going to use VS 2017. You obviously get what you pay for.

    Latest Article - Web Frameworks - A Solution Looking for a Problem? Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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      I'm referring to Sublime and Visual Studio Code. VSCode: look, when I Alt-F-S to save the file, put the cursor back on the document. I do not want to have to click on the document. VSCode: Page up and down should move the document up and down a full screen page. Don't just move the cursor first to the top or bottom of the page. VSCode: Shift up/down arrows. For f***cks sake, if I scroll past where the cursor is, so the cursor goes "off screen", move the cursor to top or bottom of the screen. Otherwise, shift up/down followed by up/down takes me back to wherever the cursor was when it scrolled off the screen. Sublime: Your bookmarks suck. Sublime: WTF happened to performance? All of a sudden everything is dog slow, which is why I switched to that POC VSCode. VSCode: Learn some lessons on how to do global search from Sublime. I think I'm just going to use VS 2017. You obviously get what you pay for.

      Latest Article - Web Frameworks - A Solution Looking for a Problem? Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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      CodeWraith
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      Marc Clifton wrote:

      You obviously get deserve what you pay for

      FTFY I used Sharp Develop until now and was very happy with it. Now that it is dead, I will sooner forget that I ever heard of .Net than to crawl back to Mickeysoft. C++ is better for what I like to do anyway.

      I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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        I'm referring to Sublime and Visual Studio Code. VSCode: look, when I Alt-F-S to save the file, put the cursor back on the document. I do not want to have to click on the document. VSCode: Page up and down should move the document up and down a full screen page. Don't just move the cursor first to the top or bottom of the page. VSCode: Shift up/down arrows. For f***cks sake, if I scroll past where the cursor is, so the cursor goes "off screen", move the cursor to top or bottom of the screen. Otherwise, shift up/down followed by up/down takes me back to wherever the cursor was when it scrolled off the screen. Sublime: Your bookmarks suck. Sublime: WTF happened to performance? All of a sudden everything is dog slow, which is why I switched to that POC VSCode. VSCode: Learn some lessons on how to do global search from Sublime. I think I'm just going to use VS 2017. You obviously get what you pay for.

        Latest Article - Web Frameworks - A Solution Looking for a Problem? Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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        Mike Hankey
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        I tried VSC for a while but ended up going back to VS2017 as you did. Might give Atom[^] another shot!

        I'm currently unsupervised, I know it freaks me out too! JaxCoder.com

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          I'm referring to Sublime and Visual Studio Code. VSCode: look, when I Alt-F-S to save the file, put the cursor back on the document. I do not want to have to click on the document. VSCode: Page up and down should move the document up and down a full screen page. Don't just move the cursor first to the top or bottom of the page. VSCode: Shift up/down arrows. For f***cks sake, if I scroll past where the cursor is, so the cursor goes "off screen", move the cursor to top or bottom of the screen. Otherwise, shift up/down followed by up/down takes me back to wherever the cursor was when it scrolled off the screen. Sublime: Your bookmarks suck. Sublime: WTF happened to performance? All of a sudden everything is dog slow, which is why I switched to that POC VSCode. VSCode: Learn some lessons on how to do global search from Sublime. I think I'm just going to use VS 2017. You obviously get what you pay for.

          Latest Article - Web Frameworks - A Solution Looking for a Problem? Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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          Lost User
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          I quite like VSCode; but I absolutely love emacs. ;P

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            I'm referring to Sublime and Visual Studio Code. VSCode: look, when I Alt-F-S to save the file, put the cursor back on the document. I do not want to have to click on the document. VSCode: Page up and down should move the document up and down a full screen page. Don't just move the cursor first to the top or bottom of the page. VSCode: Shift up/down arrows. For f***cks sake, if I scroll past where the cursor is, so the cursor goes "off screen", move the cursor to top or bottom of the screen. Otherwise, shift up/down followed by up/down takes me back to wherever the cursor was when it scrolled off the screen. Sublime: Your bookmarks suck. Sublime: WTF happened to performance? All of a sudden everything is dog slow, which is why I switched to that POC VSCode. VSCode: Learn some lessons on how to do global search from Sublime. I think I'm just going to use VS 2017. You obviously get what you pay for.

            Latest Article - Web Frameworks - A Solution Looking for a Problem? Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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            Mark_Wallace
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            But it's "The Way of the Future!", so you're obviously wrong about everything.

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              I'm referring to Sublime and Visual Studio Code. VSCode: look, when I Alt-F-S to save the file, put the cursor back on the document. I do not want to have to click on the document. VSCode: Page up and down should move the document up and down a full screen page. Don't just move the cursor first to the top or bottom of the page. VSCode: Shift up/down arrows. For f***cks sake, if I scroll past where the cursor is, so the cursor goes "off screen", move the cursor to top or bottom of the screen. Otherwise, shift up/down followed by up/down takes me back to wherever the cursor was when it scrolled off the screen. Sublime: Your bookmarks suck. Sublime: WTF happened to performance? All of a sudden everything is dog slow, which is why I switched to that POC VSCode. VSCode: Learn some lessons on how to do global search from Sublime. I think I'm just going to use VS 2017. You obviously get what you pay for.

              Latest Article - Web Frameworks - A Solution Looking for a Problem? Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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              Dr Walt Fair PE
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              How do you indent Whitespace code?

              CQ de W5ALT

              Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                But it's "The Way of the Future!", so you're obviously wrong about everything.

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                Lost User
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                Mark_Wallace wrote:

                But it's "The Way of the Future!", so you're obviously wrong about everything.

                then so is microsoft, but has that ever stopped them?

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                  How do you indent Whitespace code?

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                  Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software

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                  Peter_in_2780
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                  very carefully!

                  Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012

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                    How do you indent Whitespace code?

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                    well you know [outer] space has dark matter ... and that's why whitespace source files are mysteriously so huge

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      I'm referring to Sublime and Visual Studio Code. VSCode: look, when I Alt-F-S to save the file, put the cursor back on the document. I do not want to have to click on the document. VSCode: Page up and down should move the document up and down a full screen page. Don't just move the cursor first to the top or bottom of the page. VSCode: Shift up/down arrows. For f***cks sake, if I scroll past where the cursor is, so the cursor goes "off screen", move the cursor to top or bottom of the screen. Otherwise, shift up/down followed by up/down takes me back to wherever the cursor was when it scrolled off the screen. Sublime: Your bookmarks suck. Sublime: WTF happened to performance? All of a sudden everything is dog slow, which is why I switched to that POC VSCode. VSCode: Learn some lessons on how to do global search from Sublime. I think I'm just going to use VS 2017. You obviously get what you pay for.

                      Latest Article - Web Frameworks - A Solution Looking for a Problem? Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                      Dean Roddey
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                      The VSC one that keeps getting me, it's 50% really useful and 50% utterly annoying, is that when you close a file and it moves to another tab, it also moves back to that file in the explorer. Sometimes that's very convenient, and other times it's a PITA because you closed that file in order to open another one right there at the same spot. And I guess another that is in the same 50/50% category is the single vs. double click open. It can be really convenient if you are just going through a bunch of files one at a time. But inevitably I get myself to some place I need to be, and then go to open another file and forget I only single clicked the first one and it gets closed. But, on the whole, I've started getting used to it for my C++ work.

                      Explorans limites defectum

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                        I'm referring to Sublime and Visual Studio Code. VSCode: look, when I Alt-F-S to save the file, put the cursor back on the document. I do not want to have to click on the document. VSCode: Page up and down should move the document up and down a full screen page. Don't just move the cursor first to the top or bottom of the page. VSCode: Shift up/down arrows. For f***cks sake, if I scroll past where the cursor is, so the cursor goes "off screen", move the cursor to top or bottom of the screen. Otherwise, shift up/down followed by up/down takes me back to wherever the cursor was when it scrolled off the screen. Sublime: Your bookmarks suck. Sublime: WTF happened to performance? All of a sudden everything is dog slow, which is why I switched to that POC VSCode. VSCode: Learn some lessons on how to do global search from Sublime. I think I'm just going to use VS 2017. You obviously get what you pay for.

                        Latest Article - Web Frameworks - A Solution Looking for a Problem? Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                        Brady Kelly
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                        Paying for VS gives you a version that does very little more than the free Community edition.

                        "'Do what thou wilt...' is to bid Stars to shine, Vines to bear grapes, Water to seek its level; man is the only being in Nature that has striven to set himself at odds with himself." —Aleister Crowley

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                          I'm referring to Sublime and Visual Studio Code. VSCode: look, when I Alt-F-S to save the file, put the cursor back on the document. I do not want to have to click on the document. VSCode: Page up and down should move the document up and down a full screen page. Don't just move the cursor first to the top or bottom of the page. VSCode: Shift up/down arrows. For f***cks sake, if I scroll past where the cursor is, so the cursor goes "off screen", move the cursor to top or bottom of the screen. Otherwise, shift up/down followed by up/down takes me back to wherever the cursor was when it scrolled off the screen. Sublime: Your bookmarks suck. Sublime: WTF happened to performance? All of a sudden everything is dog slow, which is why I switched to that POC VSCode. VSCode: Learn some lessons on how to do global search from Sublime. I think I'm just going to use VS 2017. You obviously get what you pay for.

                          Latest Article - Web Frameworks - A Solution Looking for a Problem? Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                          Jacquers
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                          Why not just use ctrl-s to save the file?

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                            I'm referring to Sublime and Visual Studio Code. VSCode: look, when I Alt-F-S to save the file, put the cursor back on the document. I do not want to have to click on the document. VSCode: Page up and down should move the document up and down a full screen page. Don't just move the cursor first to the top or bottom of the page. VSCode: Shift up/down arrows. For f***cks sake, if I scroll past where the cursor is, so the cursor goes "off screen", move the cursor to top or bottom of the screen. Otherwise, shift up/down followed by up/down takes me back to wherever the cursor was when it scrolled off the screen. Sublime: Your bookmarks suck. Sublime: WTF happened to performance? All of a sudden everything is dog slow, which is why I switched to that POC VSCode. VSCode: Learn some lessons on how to do global search from Sublime. I think I'm just going to use VS 2017. You obviously get what you pay for.

                            Latest Article - Web Frameworks - A Solution Looking for a Problem? Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                            hakimio
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                            Try JetBrains Rider. It's much better than Visual Studio.

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                              I'm referring to Sublime and Visual Studio Code. VSCode: look, when I Alt-F-S to save the file, put the cursor back on the document. I do not want to have to click on the document. VSCode: Page up and down should move the document up and down a full screen page. Don't just move the cursor first to the top or bottom of the page. VSCode: Shift up/down arrows. For f***cks sake, if I scroll past where the cursor is, so the cursor goes "off screen", move the cursor to top or bottom of the screen. Otherwise, shift up/down followed by up/down takes me back to wherever the cursor was when it scrolled off the screen. Sublime: Your bookmarks suck. Sublime: WTF happened to performance? All of a sudden everything is dog slow, which is why I switched to that POC VSCode. VSCode: Learn some lessons on how to do global search from Sublime. I think I'm just going to use VS 2017. You obviously get what you pay for.

                              Latest Article - Web Frameworks - A Solution Looking for a Problem? Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                              loctrice
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                              I keep a subscription to the intellij allpack. I have Rider when/if I need to do .net stuff. Otherwise I'm in the web|phpStorm. Of coarse I am a javascript dev so most of my stuff is flavors javascript and bash.

                              Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine

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                                I keep a subscription to the intellij allpack. I have Rider when/if I need to do .net stuff. Otherwise I'm in the web|phpStorm. Of coarse I am a javascript dev so most of my stuff is flavors javascript and bash.

                                Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine

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                                Nelek
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                                loctrice wrote:

                                Of coarse I am a javascript dev

                                What did you do in your previous life to deserve that? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ;P ;P :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

                                M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                • M Marc Clifton

                                  I'm referring to Sublime and Visual Studio Code. VSCode: look, when I Alt-F-S to save the file, put the cursor back on the document. I do not want to have to click on the document. VSCode: Page up and down should move the document up and down a full screen page. Don't just move the cursor first to the top or bottom of the page. VSCode: Shift up/down arrows. For f***cks sake, if I scroll past where the cursor is, so the cursor goes "off screen", move the cursor to top or bottom of the screen. Otherwise, shift up/down followed by up/down takes me back to wherever the cursor was when it scrolled off the screen. Sublime: Your bookmarks suck. Sublime: WTF happened to performance? All of a sudden everything is dog slow, which is why I switched to that POC VSCode. VSCode: Learn some lessons on how to do global search from Sublime. I think I'm just going to use VS 2017. You obviously get what you pay for.

                                  Latest Article - Web Frameworks - A Solution Looking for a Problem? Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                                  darktrick544
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                                  VC++ 6.0 ruined everything for me. I still use VS2008 just because of the editor. I really miss BRIEF...

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                                    loctrice wrote:

                                    Of coarse I am a javascript dev

                                    What did you do in your previous life to deserve that? :rolleyes: :rolleyes: ;P ;P :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

                                    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                                    loctrice
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                                    Javascript is my favorite language. I don't think I've actually programmed c# for 4+ years now. I've done some debugging and a couple of fixes deployed but that's about it. I used to program c# for a living, and I liked it just fine. I prefer typescript to c# now though.

                                    Elephant elephant elephant, sunshine sunshine sunshine

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                                      But it's "The Way of the Future!", so you're obviously wrong about everything.

                                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                      Marc Clifton
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                                      Mark_Wallace wrote:

                                      so you're obviously wrong about everything.

                                      There's two kinds of wrong: I know I'm wrong vs I know I'm right but everyone else thinks I'm wrong. I prefer the second category. :-D

                                      Latest Article - Web Frameworks - A Solution Looking for a Problem? Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                                        The VSC one that keeps getting me, it's 50% really useful and 50% utterly annoying, is that when you close a file and it moves to another tab, it also moves back to that file in the explorer. Sometimes that's very convenient, and other times it's a PITA because you closed that file in order to open another one right there at the same spot. And I guess another that is in the same 50/50% category is the single vs. double click open. It can be really convenient if you are just going through a bunch of files one at a time. But inevitably I get myself to some place I need to be, and then go to open another file and forget I only single clicked the first one and it gets closed. But, on the whole, I've started getting used to it for my C++ work.

                                        Explorans limites defectum

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                                        Marc Clifton
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                                        Dean Roddey wrote:

                                        it's 50% really useful and 50% utterly annoying

                                        That perfectly summarizes my experience with it.

                                        Latest Article - Web Frameworks - A Solution Looking for a Problem? Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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                                          Why not just use ctrl-s to save the file?

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                                          Marc Clifton
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                                          Jacquers wrote:

                                          Why not just use ctrl-s to save the file?

                                          :doh: Finger retraining commences. :-D

                                          Latest Article - Web Frameworks - A Solution Looking for a Problem? Learning to code with python is like learning to swim with those little arm floaties. It gives you undeserved confidence and will eventually drown you. - DangerBunny Artificial intelligence is the only remedy for natural stupidity. - CDP1802

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