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  • M Munchies_Matt

    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

    Hells Angels will not dance to call down the Gods, after an attack on a Mosque.

    Yes, that WAS my point Eddie.

    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

    doesn't look like a demonstration against any color

    Except the biker gang was called Black Power. Pretty sure they arent referring to enamelled motorcycle parts....

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    Munchies_Matt wrote:

    Yes, that WAS my point Eddie.

    Your point was that the Angels don't care, and that this BP does. I'm pointing out that calling domestic gods in front of a muslim temple might not be a typical motor-gang thing.

    Munchies_Matt wrote:

    Except the biker gang was called Black Power. Pretty sure they arent referring to enamelled motorcycle parts....

    So what? Was it a closed BP-thing? Doesn't look like it. Was it a Black Power-statement? Nope, wouldn't make much sense either. Was it a normal reaction against violence? Yes :thumbsup:

    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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      Eddy Vluggen wrote:

      not in the mood to pretend that it is a black power-thing

      Er, the biker gang is called 'Black Power' Eddie. It is a bit of a give away you know, no need to pretend, just read the words.

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      Nah, that's only in your universe :) It takes quite some imagination to see this as the forming of an alliance between Maori and Muslims.

      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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        Munchies_Matt wrote:

        Yes, that WAS my point Eddie.

        Your point was that the Angels don't care, and that this BP does. I'm pointing out that calling domestic gods in front of a muslim temple might not be a typical motor-gang thing.

        Munchies_Matt wrote:

        Except the biker gang was called Black Power. Pretty sure they arent referring to enamelled motorcycle parts....

        So what? Was it a closed BP-thing? Doesn't look like it. Was it a Black Power-statement? Nope, wouldn't make much sense either. Was it a normal reaction against violence? Yes :thumbsup:

        Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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        Eddy Vluggen wrote:

        normal reaction against violence? Ye

        :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Photos of New Zealand's notorious Maori 'Black Power' gang | Daily Mail Online[^] "The nation-wide gang is known for their bloody and decades-long rivalry with the Mongrel Mob" Hmm, yes, so peaceful arent they. :)

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          Nah, that's only in your universe :) It takes quite some imagination to see this as the forming of an alliance between Maori and Muslims.

          Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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          Munchies_Matt
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          So you accept Black Power is about black power? OK, as for this violent Maori gang, and yes, their violence is well known, supporting muslims. Why is that, what have they got in common? Drugs? Extortion? Hatred of the Mongrels? What is it?

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            Eddy Vluggen wrote:

            normal reaction against violence? Ye

            :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Photos of New Zealand's notorious Maori 'Black Power' gang | Daily Mail Online[^] "The nation-wide gang is known for their bloody and decades-long rivalry with the Mongrel Mob" Hmm, yes, so peaceful arent they. :)

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            Munchies_Matt wrote:

            "The nation-wide gang is known for their bloody and decades-long rivalry with the Mongrel Mob" Hmm, yes, so peaceful arent they. :)

            And now also for initiating dancing in front of Muslims :D ..but since they're bikers, you pretty sure of yourself it is an act of violence that should be distrusted.

            Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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            • M Munchies_Matt

              So you accept Black Power is about black power? OK, as for this violent Maori gang, and yes, their violence is well known, supporting muslims. Why is that, what have they got in common? Drugs? Extortion? Hatred of the Mongrels? What is it?

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              Munchies_Matt wrote:

              So you accept Black Power is about black power?

              Ah, yes; but that doesn't mean that a dance initiated by a member is automagically a BP thing :)

              Munchies_Matt wrote:

              OK, as for this violent Maori gang, and yes, their violence is well known, supporting muslims. Why is that, what have they got in common? Drugs? Extortion? Hatred of the Mongrels? What is it?

              It MIGHT not be a show of support for Muslims in particular, but more a reaction to some bloody event. That is what they have in common; they're all in NZ, and confronted with something that was previously only happening in crazy parts of the world.

              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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              • M Munchies_Matt

                Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                normal reaction against violence? Ye

                :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: Photos of New Zealand's notorious Maori 'Black Power' gang | Daily Mail Online[^] "The nation-wide gang is known for their bloody and decades-long rivalry with the Mongrel Mob" Hmm, yes, so peaceful arent they. :)

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                Munchies_Matt wrote:

                Mongrel Mob

                Who dat?

                #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                  Munchies_Matt wrote:

                  "The nation-wide gang is known for their bloody and decades-long rivalry with the Mongrel Mob" Hmm, yes, so peaceful arent they. :)

                  And now also for initiating dancing in front of Muslims :D ..but since they're bikers, you pretty sure of yourself it is an act of violence that should be distrusted.

                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                  Munchies_Matt
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                  The Haka, an act of peace? Do you really know so little? :) It is a war dance Eddie.

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                    Munchies_Matt wrote:

                    Mongrel Mob

                    Who dat?

                    #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                    Munchies_Matt
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                    Another NZ biker gang.

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                      Munchies_Matt wrote:

                      So you accept Black Power is about black power?

                      Ah, yes; but that doesn't mean that a dance initiated by a member is automagically a BP thing :)

                      Munchies_Matt wrote:

                      OK, as for this violent Maori gang, and yes, their violence is well known, supporting muslims. Why is that, what have they got in common? Drugs? Extortion? Hatred of the Mongrels? What is it?

                      It MIGHT not be a show of support for Muslims in particular, but more a reaction to some bloody event. That is what they have in common; they're all in NZ, and confronted with something that was previously only happening in crazy parts of the world.

                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                      Munchies_Matt
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                      Of course the Haka isnt a 'Black Power thing'. I am surprised at your belief that the Black Power gang are so sensitive. :) DO they do ballet and flower arranging on a Sunday as well do you think?

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                      • M Munchies_Matt

                        So you accept Black Power is about black power? OK, as for this violent Maori gang, and yes, their violence is well known, supporting muslims. Why is that, what have they got in common? Drugs? Extortion? Hatred of the Mongrels? What is it?

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                        It's probably not so much support for muslims as a protest against the white-supremacist roots of the massacre. Just my take.

                        #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                        • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                          It's probably not so much support for muslims as a protest against the white-supremacist roots of the massacre. Just my take.

                          #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                          Munchies_Matt
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                          Exactly.

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                          • M Munchies_Matt

                            First a Maori biker gang, tattooed, probably drug dealers, mostly with criminal records, called Black Power does a Haka outside the mosque, no doubt muslims were looking on thinking 'what the fuck?' and now this: Tearful students perform a moving haka dance outside Christchurch mosque | Daily Mail Online[^] They look to be mostly Maori, but some whites. Is this a case of 'if you arent white, you are my ally' Maoris are displaying here? This is deeply racist of course. And deeply misjudged, Maoris and muslims have zero in common. (except for the usual DNA we all have, and share with other apes, but you know what I mean, I am sure)

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                            Bikers, they should not be allowed to support anybody.

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                              First a Maori biker gang, tattooed, probably drug dealers, mostly with criminal records, called Black Power does a Haka outside the mosque, no doubt muslims were looking on thinking 'what the fuck?' and now this: Tearful students perform a moving haka dance outside Christchurch mosque | Daily Mail Online[^] They look to be mostly Maori, but some whites. Is this a case of 'if you arent white, you are my ally' Maoris are displaying here? This is deeply racist of course. And deeply misjudged, Maoris and muslims have zero in common. (except for the usual DNA we all have, and share with other apes, but you know what I mean, I am sure)

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                              Black Power has been around for decades and the name is from a long forgotten past of their original bikie roots. Nowadays they are just another criminal drug pushing organisation of no particular racial background run by the elderly bikies from yesteryear who may have matured a fraction. (probably to keep their customer base happy) Technically one can call themselves a Maori if they have a eighth or sixteenth blood in them and hence can appear more Caucasian then of pacific origins. I'm not even sure if their are any purebreds left now. Nowadays the haka is an overused dance of respect based on a traditional Maori war dance. It is only used as such now.

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                              • M Munchies_Matt

                                Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                Hells Angels will not dance to call down the Gods, after an attack on a Mosque.

                                Yes, that WAS my point Eddie.

                                Eddy Vluggen wrote:

                                doesn't look like a demonstration against any color

                                Except the biker gang was called Black Power. Pretty sure they arent referring to enamelled motorcycle parts....

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                                Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                Except the biker gang was called Black Power.

                                Mate you can read racist into anything, their gang name and criminal history are NOT the story here, it is all about the people, all the people, showing solidarity. Take you small minded trolling and shove it where the sun don't shine.

                                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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                                  Bikers, they should not be allowed to support anybody.

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                                  Munchies_Matt
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                                  DO you know who these Black Power people are? Violent criminals involved in drugs murder and racketeering. Black Power (New Zealand gang) - Wikipedia[^] Put it this way, if they were supporting me, I would be very worried. But your ignorant left wing mushy headed brain makes you want to live and forgive everyone, even while they hold a knife at your throat. Next point. How is a black supremacist group protesting a white supremacist action NOT escalating? Perhaps a white power bike gang deciding it want to take revenge, and targets a mosque because it now is associated with Black Power? Try to think a bit.

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                                    Black Power has been around for decades and the name is from a long forgotten past of their original bikie roots. Nowadays they are just another criminal drug pushing organisation of no particular racial background run by the elderly bikies from yesteryear who may have matured a fraction. (probably to keep their customer base happy) Technically one can call themselves a Maori if they have a eighth or sixteenth blood in them and hence can appear more Caucasian then of pacific origins. I'm not even sure if their are any purebreds left now. Nowadays the haka is an overused dance of respect based on a traditional Maori war dance. It is only used as such now.

                                    A Fine is a Tax for doing something wrong A Tax is a Fine for doing something good.

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                                    Munchies_Matt
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                                    The obvious still stands. A Black Supremacist group, involved in murder, drugs, racketeering supporting muslims is fucked up. Look, I wouldnt even WANT their support if I was a muslim. And yes, they are a racist, maori gang. Black Power (New Zealand gang) - Wikipedia[^]

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                                      The obvious still stands. A Black Supremacist group, involved in murder, drugs, racketeering supporting muslims is fucked up. Look, I wouldnt even WANT their support if I was a muslim. And yes, they are a racist, maori gang. Black Power (New Zealand gang) - Wikipedia[^]

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                                      Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                      A Black Supremacist group

                                      I don't think so, they just antisocial criminals. Anything else would be too hard for their intellect to cope with.

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                                        Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                        A Black Supremacist group

                                        I don't think so, they just antisocial criminals. Anything else would be too hard for their intellect to cope with.

                                        A Fine is a Tax for doing something wrong A Tax is a Fine for doing something good.

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                                        They managed to think sufficiently to protest in support of their 'black brothers'.

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                                        • M Mycroft Holmes

                                          Munchies_Matt wrote:

                                          Except the biker gang was called Black Power.

                                          Mate you can read racist into anything, their gang name and criminal history are NOT the story here, it is all about the people, all the people, showing solidarity. Take you small minded trolling and shove it where the sun don't shine.

                                          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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                                          Munchies_Matt
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                                          Wow, what a dick you are. Ah, of course, you want to read what I wrote this way dont you, because you have an agenda. Now, why dont you try to think a bit. This biker gang, involved in drugs, murder, racketeering, yes, please do google them, are showing solidarity with members of the human race????? Are you fucking kidding???? When the fuck have these cunts ever shown ANY solidarity with ANYONE! And now, all of a sudden, completely OUT of character, they are pally with a bunch of muslims? Oh open your eyes and turn your brain on. And yes, I can insult you as much as I like, YOU called me racist.

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