Exit to Brexit
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Well, The End is in sight! An unprecedented 5.2 million votes on the House of commons website to cancel article 50! That cannot be ignored. There will be celebrations on the streets of Ireland, North and South when Brexit is abandoned, which seems now inevitable. I have never met any person here who was in favour of Brexit in the first place. (Even Most of the DUP supporters are against Brexit). If it results in riots on the streets in England, so be it! Let them cut each others throats if that pleases them. Northern Ireland Schotland, The Netherlands, and, the Republic of Ireland will celebrate abundantly! As for that original referendum: An act of eternal stupidity, which should be totally ignored.
Bram van Kampen
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Well, The End is in sight! An unprecedented 5.2 million votes on the House of commons website to cancel article 50! That cannot be ignored. There will be celebrations on the streets of Ireland, North and South when Brexit is abandoned, which seems now inevitable. I have never met any person here who was in favour of Brexit in the first place. (Even Most of the DUP supporters are against Brexit). If it results in riots on the streets in England, so be it! Let them cut each others throats if that pleases them. Northern Ireland Schotland, The Netherlands, and, the Republic of Ireland will celebrate abundantly! As for that original referendum: An act of eternal stupidity, which should be totally ignored.
Bram van Kampen
Take it there.
Software rusts. Simon Stephenson, ca 1994. So does this signature. me, 2012
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Well, The End is in sight! An unprecedented 5.2 million votes on the House of commons website to cancel article 50! That cannot be ignored. There will be celebrations on the streets of Ireland, North and South when Brexit is abandoned, which seems now inevitable. I have never met any person here who was in favour of Brexit in the first place. (Even Most of the DUP supporters are against Brexit). If it results in riots on the streets in England, so be it! Let them cut each others throats if that pleases them. Northern Ireland Schotland, The Netherlands, and, the Republic of Ireland will celebrate abundantly! As for that original referendum: An act of eternal stupidity, which should be totally ignored.
Bram van Kampen
Bram van Kampen wrote:
referendum: An act of eternal stupidity
Can't agree there, why blame the referendum? Had it been properly constituted with more than a simple majority and with a compulsory vote then the result would truly reflect the desires of the people. In most countries referendums are used when there is a desire to change the constitution, an artifact that is absent in Britain. This means careful thought has been given to how a referendum should work. Moreover as is evident now many who voted did not even know what the possible outcomes were which means that the question was poorly framed: The Brexit referendum question was flawed in its design | LSE BREXIT[^]
Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell
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Well, The End is in sight! An unprecedented 5.2 million votes on the House of commons website to cancel article 50! That cannot be ignored. There will be celebrations on the streets of Ireland, North and South when Brexit is abandoned, which seems now inevitable. I have never met any person here who was in favour of Brexit in the first place. (Even Most of the DUP supporters are against Brexit). If it results in riots on the streets in England, so be it! Let them cut each others throats if that pleases them. Northern Ireland Schotland, The Netherlands, and, the Republic of Ireland will celebrate abundantly! As for that original referendum: An act of eternal stupidity, which should be totally ignored.
Bram van Kampen
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Well, The End is in sight! An unprecedented 5.2 million votes on the House of commons website to cancel article 50! That cannot be ignored. There will be celebrations on the streets of Ireland, North and South when Brexit is abandoned, which seems now inevitable. I have never met any person here who was in favour of Brexit in the first place. (Even Most of the DUP supporters are against Brexit). If it results in riots on the streets in England, so be it! Let them cut each others throats if that pleases them. Northern Ireland Schotland, The Netherlands, and, the Republic of Ireland will celebrate abundantly! As for that original referendum: An act of eternal stupidity, which should be totally ignored.
Bram van Kampen
I hope you're right about abandoning the whole process but the sainted Theresa seems impervious to all and everything thrown at her. The people have spoken - aarghh if I hear that one more time.
We can’t stop here, this is bat country - Hunter S Thompson RIP
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Well, The End is in sight! An unprecedented 5.2 million votes on the House of commons website to cancel article 50! That cannot be ignored. There will be celebrations on the streets of Ireland, North and South when Brexit is abandoned, which seems now inevitable. I have never met any person here who was in favour of Brexit in the first place. (Even Most of the DUP supporters are against Brexit). If it results in riots on the streets in England, so be it! Let them cut each others throats if that pleases them. Northern Ireland Schotland, The Netherlands, and, the Republic of Ireland will celebrate abundantly! As for that original referendum: An act of eternal stupidity, which should be totally ignored.
Bram van Kampen
Bram van Kampen wrote:
I have never met any person here who was in favour of Brexit in the first place.
Post this in the soapbox, you will meet a couple of them that will be happy to explain you everything from the other side of the coin @Sean-Ewington would you mind to move the thread?
M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.
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Well, The End is in sight! An unprecedented 5.2 million votes on the House of commons website to cancel article 50! That cannot be ignored. There will be celebrations on the streets of Ireland, North and South when Brexit is abandoned, which seems now inevitable. I have never met any person here who was in favour of Brexit in the first place. (Even Most of the DUP supporters are against Brexit). If it results in riots on the streets in England, so be it! Let them cut each others throats if that pleases them. Northern Ireland Schotland, The Netherlands, and, the Republic of Ireland will celebrate abundantly! As for that original referendum: An act of eternal stupidity, which should be totally ignored.
Bram van Kampen
We're not out of the woods, yet and there is still a very real danger that we could bomb out without a deal. Even if if we do come to our senses and pull back from the brink by revoking Article 50 or at least giving the people another vote, a lot of damage has already been done
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Well, The End is in sight! An unprecedented 5.2 million votes on the House of commons website to cancel article 50! That cannot be ignored. There will be celebrations on the streets of Ireland, North and South when Brexit is abandoned, which seems now inevitable. I have never met any person here who was in favour of Brexit in the first place. (Even Most of the DUP supporters are against Brexit). If it results in riots on the streets in England, so be it! Let them cut each others throats if that pleases them. Northern Ireland Schotland, The Netherlands, and, the Republic of Ireland will celebrate abundantly! As for that original referendum: An act of eternal stupidity, which should be totally ignored.
Bram van Kampen
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Bram van Kampen wrote:
An unprecedented 5.2 million votes on the House of commons website
Which means absolutely nothing, since they will be people who voted remain in the first place. When will people get that the referendum is done, and move on?
Richard MacCutchan wrote:
since they will be people who voted remain in the first place.
That's a rather huge assumption, isn't it? I know far more people who voted leave who now wish to remain than people who voted remain and now think we should leave. After 3 years of farce, the majority is now in the remain camp and that should not be ignored. Democracy ceases to be democracy when it tethers itself to a set point in time. You might as well say that we should have a Liberal government because lots of people voted for Mr. Asquith.
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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Richard MacCutchan wrote:
since they will be people who voted remain in the first place.
That's a rather huge assumption, isn't it? I know far more people who voted leave who now wish to remain than people who voted remain and now think we should leave. After 3 years of farce, the majority is now in the remain camp and that should not be ignored. Democracy ceases to be democracy when it tethers itself to a set point in time. You might as well say that we should have a Liberal government because lots of people voted for Mr. Asquith.
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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PeejayAdams wrote:
the majority is now in the remain camp
PeejayAdams wrote:
That's a rather huge assumption, isn't it?
Touché.
My "assumption" is made on the basis of opinion polls, which repeatedly show a majority for remain. Your assumption that everybody who has signed the petition voted remain is demonstrably incorrect as I know people who voted leave and have signed the petition.
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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My "assumption" is made on the basis of opinion polls, which repeatedly show a majority for remain. Your assumption that everybody who has signed the petition voted remain is demonstrably incorrect as I know people who voted leave and have signed the petition.
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
PeejayAdams wrote:
opinion polls
We all know how accurate those are at showing the reality of any situation: Trump will never win! The UK will never vote for Brexit!
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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My "assumption" is made on the basis of opinion polls, which repeatedly show a majority for remain. Your assumption that everybody who has signed the petition voted remain is demonstrably incorrect as I know people who voted leave and have signed the petition.
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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[No they don't.](https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/if-there-was-a-referendum-on-britains-membership-of-the-eu-how-would-you-vote-2/)
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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PeejayAdams wrote:
opinion polls
We all know how accurate those are at showing the reality of any situation: Trump will never win! The UK will never vote for Brexit!
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
Part of the problem with polls is that they actually skew results in the opposite direction. In a situation where the polls seem to indicate that a result is inevitable, people who would otherwise vote don't bother.
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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[No they don't.](https://whatukthinks.org/eu/questions/if-there-was-a-referendum-on-britains-membership-of-the-eu-how-would-you-vote-2/)
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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Well, there's an easy way to find out - let's vote again.
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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Well, there's an easy way to find out - let's vote again.
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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Oh yes, what a great idea. And if some of us don't like that result then let's vote again, and again ... :rolleyes:
Double plus ungood attitude citizen MacCutchcan!
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Oh yes, what a great idea. And if some of us don't like that result then let's vote again, and again ... :rolleyes:
Assuming again, are we? I'm advocating a single definitive vote now that we actually know the facts. Why are you so scared of that, I wonder?
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain