News sources
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So society has basically burned to the ground since I posted here regularly. One thing I see a lot is older people sure they know 'the truth' based on something they saw on YouTube. Certainly news sources seem a lot more partisan to me than they used to be and it's hard to find unbiased news as opposed to seeking out world events filtered through either side of politics. So, where do you get your news? Or are you just hiding under a rock waiting for the storm to pass?
Once you understand that newspapers are no longer in the business of telling the truth but of pushing the narrative of their billionaire owners, then you understand that objectivity is not their goal. Your best bet is to read from a selection of sources, and somewhere amongst the different versions of the events will be a few grains of truth.
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So society has basically burned to the ground since I posted here regularly. One thing I see a lot is older people sure they know 'the truth' based on something they saw on YouTube. Certainly news sources seem a lot more partisan to me than they used to be and it's hard to find unbiased news as opposed to seeking out world events filtered through either side of politics. So, where do you get your news? Or are you just hiding under a rock waiting for the storm to pass?
Christian Graus wrote:
So, where do you get your news? Or are you just hiding under a rock waiting for the storm to pass?
I have the newspapers delivered to my rock. :) I read: 1. "Left wing" - the International New York Times (comes bundled with Ha'aretz in Israel) 2. "Right wing" - the Jerusalem Post I watch: 3. CNN 4. Fox News Averaging those (admittedly biased) sources, I hope I can get a reasonably balanced picture of the world.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.
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So society has basically burned to the ground since I posted here regularly. One thing I see a lot is older people sure they know 'the truth' based on something they saw on YouTube. Certainly news sources seem a lot more partisan to me than they used to be and it's hard to find unbiased news as opposed to seeking out world events filtered through either side of politics. So, where do you get your news? Or are you just hiding under a rock waiting for the storm to pass?
You don't have to stop watching/reading news. You just have to be able to compensate for the viewpoint of the source. Very few of them will actually lie or make stuff up from whole cloth, so it's just a matter of making an adjustment and maybe some semantic analysis.
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So society has basically burned to the ground since I posted here regularly. One thing I see a lot is older people sure they know 'the truth' based on something they saw on YouTube. Certainly news sources seem a lot more partisan to me than they used to be and it's hard to find unbiased news as opposed to seeking out world events filtered through either side of politics. So, where do you get your news? Or are you just hiding under a rock waiting for the storm to pass?
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So society has basically burned to the ground since I posted here regularly. One thing I see a lot is older people sure they know 'the truth' based on something they saw on YouTube. Certainly news sources seem a lot more partisan to me than they used to be and it's hard to find unbiased news as opposed to seeking out world events filtered through either side of politics. So, where do you get your news? Or are you just hiding under a rock waiting for the storm to pass?
Looking at the UK newspaper scene, we have the following options from left to right: Morning Star - Communist (readership circa 12 so barely relevant) Guardian - Prosecco socialist Daily Mirror - Traditional Labour Independent/i - Centrist Times and Sunday Times - Moderate Conservative Mail on Sunday - Moderate Conservative Daily Star - Largely apolitical due to space required for bingo and tits but right leaning. Daily Express and Sunday Express - right wing Conservative. The Sun - Finds plenty of space among the bingo and tits for anti-EU and anti-Labour ranting. Daily Telegraph and Sunday Telegraph - right wing Conservative/Kipper. Daily Mail - still pining for Mr. Hitler (the only decent foreigner that ever lived, apparently). That's a pretty heavy right-of-centre emphasis (especially when we bear in mind that The Sun has the highest circulation). Personally, I only ever tend to buy The i (best crossword by a country mile) or the Times but do look at most of them from time to time.
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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I quit watching the news a few years ago. In order to do that I have to be ok with not being up on current events. In my situation I can be, and nobody knows I don't know what's going on. This keeps me at least not fretting about that. I have enough to be concerned with without the cares of the world.
Scores of years ago I started listening to SW news - every country had an English service. That's where I heard so many versions of the same story - and watched as stores evolved (not the event, but how it was spun) as each weasel nation tried to look blameless. In a sense, part of what you speak of is business-as-usual. What's changed is the availability of a means for anybody to be heard by scillions (perhaps zillions) of people. Post what you want - it may be looked at; adopted; repeated; embellished. One thing that's become apparent - the democratization of a having a world-wide voice isn't necessarily a good thing. Not, at least, if it's available to everyone - the same people we call 'users" don't suddenly develop brains in how they operate
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So society has basically burned to the ground since I posted here regularly. One thing I see a lot is older people sure they know 'the truth' based on something they saw on YouTube. Certainly news sources seem a lot more partisan to me than they used to be and it's hard to find unbiased news as opposed to seeking out world events filtered through either side of politics. So, where do you get your news? Or are you just hiding under a rock waiting for the storm to pass?
Local newspaper. This appears to be the only good reliable source of information in France. National newspaper tend to be biased depending on who owns the newspaper, and we better not speak about tv or internet, the source of fake news.
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Thing is, something big, like Notre Dame, will appear on my feed. I generally know when someone famous dies the same way.
Christian Graus wrote:
like Notre Dame
Christian Graus wrote:
when someone famous dies the same way.
What famous people have died by being engulfed in flames while being renovated? I can't believe I missed that!!
Socialism is the Axe Body Spray of political ideologies: It never does what it claims to do, but people too young to know better keep buying it anyway. (Glenn Reynolds)
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Oh, God. I am still confused by the juxtaposition of the suggestion that gay marriage has made marriage meaningless, and MAFS. I saw a lot of chatter about 'teachable moments' in MAFS, but I ignored it. I still couldn't tell you who was on it. And now we have 'bachelor in paradise', there's just an endless stream of them. On the good side, have you been paying attention is nearly on again.....
Christian Graus wrote:
MAFS
What's that? Some Aussie thing?
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Once you understand that newspapers are no longer in the business of telling the truth but of pushing the narrative of their billionaire owners, then you understand that objectivity is not their goal. Your best bet is to read from a selection of sources, and somewhere amongst the different versions of the events will be a few grains of truth.
"There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter
I think it's a mistake to think that it's about the narrative of their owners. Their billionaire owners didn't get to be billionaires by putting their politics ahead of business. Of course if a billionaire has a particular view he's likely to buy a company that shares it. But, if it became financially untenable to hold that position, I sort of doubt that person would continue to eat a lot of losses to keep doing it. I think it's really about money, not politics. Politics is how you keep your viewing audience, by polarizing them to a retarded degree. There are so many people out there on the internet who view every single thing via one big politically polarized lens. And then owning the mind-share of a large viewing audience on this or that side of the isle gives you power, and power is a very effective lever to generate a lot more money indirectly. Obviously if you can make money and push your own point of view on the world, it's a double win for you. But the latter I think is more of a cherry on the pie, while the money and power is the pie itself.
Explorans limites defectum
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I quit watching the news a few years ago. In order to do that I have to be ok with not being up on current events. In my situation I can be, and nobody knows I don't know what's going on. This keeps me at least not fretting about that. I have enough to be concerned with without the cares of the world.
Same here. I have enough to worry about close to home, without getting my nuts in the grinder over the to-do in Washington or elsewhere.
Software Zen:
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So society has basically burned to the ground since I posted here regularly. One thing I see a lot is older people sure they know 'the truth' based on something they saw on YouTube. Certainly news sources seem a lot more partisan to me than they used to be and it's hard to find unbiased news as opposed to seeking out world events filtered through either side of politics. So, where do you get your news? Or are you just hiding under a rock waiting for the storm to pass?
I'm using a couple of link aggregators for the fun/educative stuff. But for news it's mostly google news. Any source that gives me opinions instead of facts I block. It's funny how peaceful the world has become lately.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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So society has basically burned to the ground since I posted here regularly. One thing I see a lot is older people sure they know 'the truth' based on something they saw on YouTube. Certainly news sources seem a lot more partisan to me than they used to be and it's hard to find unbiased news as opposed to seeking out world events filtered through either side of politics. So, where do you get your news? Or are you just hiding under a rock waiting for the storm to pass?
The only one I use that I haven't seen mentioned is News Sniffer[^]. Oh, and, since a certain person took residence in a certain-coloured house, I've found myself visiting FactCheck.org[^] more and more often.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Same here. I have enough to worry about close to home, without getting my nuts in the grinder over the to-do in Washington or elsewhere.
Software Zen:
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I have enough to worry about close to home, without getting my nuts in the grinder over the to-do in Washington or elsewhere.
I view it as entertainment, these days. OK, so we're getting closer and closer to jackboot governments, but you've gotta laugh, haven't you?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Christian Graus wrote:
MAFS
What's that? Some Aussie thing?
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
Oz TV is about 40% reality shows (really fucking bad reality shows apparently) 40% reruns of old comedies and the rest if touted as news with some sports thrown in. I had to look up what MAFS was for - Married at First Sight, I thankfully have no idea what the content is like.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
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Oz TV is about 40% reality shows (really fucking bad reality shows apparently) 40% reruns of old comedies and the rest if touted as news with some sports thrown in. I had to look up what MAFS was for - Married at First Sight, I thankfully have no idea what the content is like.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP
ugh. Sounds dreadfully dull.
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun