Democrat Crap
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Cory Booker wants all gun owners to have a federal firearms license. My response - we already do, and it's called the 2nd Amendment. Of course, he would know that if he would take the time to actually *read* the Constitution.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Cory Booker wants all gun owners to have a federal firearms license. My response - we already do, and it's called the 2nd Amendment. Of course, he would know that if he would take the time to actually *read* the Constitution.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Cory Booker wants all gun owners to have a federal firearms license. My response - we already do, and it's called the 2nd Amendment. Of course, he would know that if he would take the time to actually *read* the Constitution.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Maybe he wants to put the well regulated in the "well regulated militia". What is well regulated anyway? It could be anything, per example mandating all firearms to be replaced with bubble guns.
Urban Cricket wrote:
What is well regulated anyway?
I'm glad you asked. Back when the 2nd was written, members of a standing army were referred to as "regulars", in that they were trained to be proficient in the use of the arms of the day and provisioned (with ammo and weapons)". So, "well regulated" meant that the members of the militia be well trained and provisioned so they'd be ready to defend the Constitution (thus fulfilling the "security of a free State"). The clause "well regulated" has absolutely NOTHING to do with restricting the ownership of firearms, but instead says that ALL citizens be armed and trained/provisioned, like the "regulars" are. the reason for that is that the "militia" couldn't hope to defend anything without the use of and training with current battlefield-capable weapons. And to be clear, an AR-15 is NOT a battlefield-capable weapon. There isn't a single military force that uses AR-15's.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
The 2nd Amendment doesn't guarantee the right to own a firearm, so not really.
Yes, it most certainly does. What it doesn't do is "grant" the right.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Cory Booker wants all gun owners to have a federal firearms license. My response - we already do, and it's called the 2nd Amendment. Of course, he would know that if he would take the time to actually *read* the Constitution.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013#realJSOP wrote:
Cory Booker wants all gun owners to have a federal firearms license.
Good job, Cory! :thumbsup:
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Urban Cricket wrote:
What is well regulated anyway?
I'm glad you asked. Back when the 2nd was written, members of a standing army were referred to as "regulars", in that they were trained to be proficient in the use of the arms of the day and provisioned (with ammo and weapons)". So, "well regulated" meant that the members of the militia be well trained and provisioned so they'd be ready to defend the Constitution (thus fulfilling the "security of a free State"). The clause "well regulated" has absolutely NOTHING to do with restricting the ownership of firearms, but instead says that ALL citizens be armed and trained/provisioned, like the "regulars" are. the reason for that is that the "militia" couldn't hope to defend anything without the use of and training with current battlefield-capable weapons. And to be clear, an AR-15 is NOT a battlefield-capable weapon. There isn't a single military force that uses AR-15's.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013But are ALL citizens armed and trained like the "regulars"? You live in a world where the constitution is permanently and continuously violated. Is that why one of the republicans, don't remember his name suggested to have all kids armed and trained to defend themselves in the schools?
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Yes, it most certainly does. What it doesn't do is "grant" the right.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
But are ALL citizens armed and trained like the "regulars"? You live in a world where the constitution is permanently and continuously violated. Is that why one of the republicans, don't remember his name suggested to have all kids armed and trained to defend themselves in the schools?
Urban Cricket wrote:
But are ALL citizens armed and trained like the "regulars"?
That was the intent, yes. Of course, back then, females were excluded for general consideration, but that was a cultural norm. Male children of the era were generally proficient in the use of firearms by the time they were 6-8 years old.
Urban Cricket wrote:
You live in a world where the constitution is permanently and continuously violated.
Yeah, and ain't that a shame.
Urban Cricket wrote:
Is that why one of the republicans, don't remember his name suggested to have all kids armed and trained to defend themselves in the schools?
With the level of maturity exhibited by people nowadays, I personally think allowing anyone younger than 18 to own a gun should be prohibited, but that doesn't mean they can't be well trained in the use of said weapons. I was a very competent marksman by the age of 10, yet I never shot up a school/movie theater - it never even crossed my mind to do so. Times were different back then, but that doesn't mean the 2nd Amendment is any less applicable.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
There are many states where people with violent criminal convictions can't have firearms, correct? So if the constitution doesn't guarantee the absolute right to a firearm, maybe it isn't quite the document you think it is?
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
There are many states where people with violent criminal convictions can't have firearms, correct?
True. Most states are like that I believe.
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
So if the constitution doesn't guarantee the absolute right to a firearm, maybe it isn't quite the document you think it is?
It does guarantee the absolute right. The fact that the individual states say a violent felon no longer has the right to own a firearm is not a statement on the 2nd Amendment. What it means is that the states are exercising their 10th Amendment right: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." Furthermore, the Constitution wasn't written to limit what the people could do, it was written to limit what the federal government could do.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Urban Cricket wrote:
But are ALL citizens armed and trained like the "regulars"?
That was the intent, yes. Of course, back then, females were excluded for general consideration, but that was a cultural norm. Male children of the era were generally proficient in the use of firearms by the time they were 6-8 years old.
Urban Cricket wrote:
You live in a world where the constitution is permanently and continuously violated.
Yeah, and ain't that a shame.
Urban Cricket wrote:
Is that why one of the republicans, don't remember his name suggested to have all kids armed and trained to defend themselves in the schools?
With the level of maturity exhibited by people nowadays, I personally think allowing anyone younger than 18 to own a gun should be prohibited, but that doesn't mean they can't be well trained in the use of said weapons. I was a very competent marksman by the age of 10, yet I never shot up a school/movie theater - it never even crossed my mind to do so. Times were different back then, but that doesn't mean the 2nd Amendment is any less applicable.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Ah there he is: [Rick Santorum: Kids Should Learn CPR Instead Of Rallying For Gun Laws - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1utdMrH0\_zE) suggesting kids should learn how to respond to a shooter :) I'm surprised there is no travel advisory for the US when republicans are in power.
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Ah there he is: [Rick Santorum: Kids Should Learn CPR Instead Of Rallying For Gun Laws - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1utdMrH0\_zE) suggesting kids should learn how to respond to a shooter :) I'm surprised there is no travel advisory for the US when republicans are in power.
Politicians (as a group) are generally the least intelligent people on the planet. It doesn't really matter what party affiliation they might claim (or not claim). They only say what they think their constituents want to hear.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
There are many states where people with violent criminal convictions can't have firearms, correct?
True. Most states are like that I believe.
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
So if the constitution doesn't guarantee the absolute right to a firearm, maybe it isn't quite the document you think it is?
It does guarantee the absolute right. The fact that the individual states say a violent felon no longer has the right to own a firearm is not a statement on the 2nd Amendment. What it means is that the states are exercising their 10th Amendment right: "The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people." Furthermore, the Constitution wasn't written to limit what the people could do, it was written to limit what the federal government could do.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013#realJSOP wrote:
It does guarantee the absolute right.
So why did you say
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Cory Booker wants all gun owners to have a federal firearms license. My response - we already do, and it's called the 2nd Amendment
That kind of implies that it does.
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#realJSOP wrote:
It does guarantee the absolute right.
So why did you say
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Cory Booker wants all gun owners to have a federal firearms license. My response - we already do, and it's called the 2nd Amendment
That kind of implies that it does.
It does, but democrats don't generally see it that way, again, because they haven't bothered to actually READ the Constitution. Booker wants a federally issued gun license. Licensing leads to registration, and registration leads to confiscation. Finally, confiscation leads to oppression and genocide. History lays it out for us (if we care to observe the lessons).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
It does, but democrats don't generally see it that way, again, because they haven't bothered to actually READ the Constitution. Booker wants a federally issued gun license. Licensing leads to registration, and registration leads to confiscation. Finally, confiscation leads to oppression and genocide. History lays it out for us (if we care to observe the lessons).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013#realJSOP wrote:
It does
You just admitted yourself it doesn't.
#realJSOP wrote:
democrats don't generally see it that way, again, because they haven't bothered to actually READ the Constitution
Maybe they have? (see above)
#realJSOP wrote:
registration leads to confiscation
Committing crimes already leads to confiscation.
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#realJSOP wrote:
It does
You just admitted yourself it doesn't.
#realJSOP wrote:
democrats don't generally see it that way, again, because they haven't bothered to actually READ the Constitution
Maybe they have? (see above)
#realJSOP wrote:
registration leads to confiscation
Committing crimes already leads to confiscation.
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
You just admitted yourself it doesn't.
I don't see what you are seeing. :confused:
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Ah there he is: [Rick Santorum: Kids Should Learn CPR Instead Of Rallying For Gun Laws - YouTube](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1utdMrH0\_zE) suggesting kids should learn how to respond to a shooter :) I'm surprised there is no travel advisory for the US when republicans are in power.
Urban Cricket wrote:
suggesting kids should learn how to respond to a shooter
Are you suggesting they shouldn't know how? :confused: :wtf:
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Urban Cricket wrote:
suggesting kids should learn how to respond to a shooter
Are you suggesting they shouldn't know how? :confused: :wtf:
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They shouldn't HAVE to. He basically told them to shut up and learn how to survive. Good luck with your politicians.
Urban Cricket wrote:
He basically told them to shut up and learn how to survive.
That's not what I got out of it. You are exposing your bias and bigotry for everyone to see.
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Urban Cricket wrote:
He basically told them to shut up and learn how to survive.
That's not what I got out of it. You are exposing your bias and bigotry for everyone to see.
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
