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  • realJSOPR realJSOP

    I just read an article about their content moderators, and some of the descriptions of content that they moderate, and it's f*ckin disturbing/disgusting what people post. I can't believe that people actually stay at such a job for more than a 20 minutes (and even that's pushing it). God help us if they put AI in charge of moderation. The computers will see/evaluate the attrocities that humans are capable of, and would rightfully decide it isn't worth keeping us around. Facebook moderators break their NDAs to expose desperate working conditions - The Verge[^]

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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    Nelek
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    But before shutting it down all the executives, managers and people getting rich at cost of others should be forced to one or two years of the dirty work they try so desperatelly to hide or give away

    #realJSOP wrote:

    God help us if they put AI in charge of moderation. The computers will see/evaluate the attrocities that humans are capable of, and would rightfully decide it isn't worth keeping us around.

    They don't need the crap of those moderation queues, just seeing the "normal" news they might already come to that conclusion.

    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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    • realJSOPR realJSOP

      I just read an article about their content moderators, and some of the descriptions of content that they moderate, and it's f*ckin disturbing/disgusting what people post. I can't believe that people actually stay at such a job for more than a 20 minutes (and even that's pushing it). God help us if they put AI in charge of moderation. The computers will see/evaluate the attrocities that humans are capable of, and would rightfully decide it isn't worth keeping us around. Facebook moderators break their NDAs to expose desperate working conditions - The Verge[^]

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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      abmv
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      Mark Zuckerberg the CEO of Facebook, held a face at the congress disposition and said that they are working on AI to do all this work, could this be just a ploy to save his face ? and that of the company and that of the investors? Also so that he can get richer every year from the filth that people produce online. Well there is a market for everything hence. The only way to stop Facebook and Instagram is for people to be made aware of the harms of social media and to express restraint in posting their views and biases in the open due to their lack of judgement and good behavior. I think the world leaders need to call him more often ... or else he needs to step down from the leadership as it has become a total failure worldwide..selling data and leaking data seems to be the only model the have for an advertising platform...

      Caveat Emptor. "Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long

      We are in the beginning of a mass extinction. - Greta Thunberg

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      • realJSOPR realJSOP

        I just read an article about their content moderators, and some of the descriptions of content that they moderate, and it's f*ckin disturbing/disgusting what people post. I can't believe that people actually stay at such a job for more than a 20 minutes (and even that's pushing it). God help us if they put AI in charge of moderation. The computers will see/evaluate the attrocities that humans are capable of, and would rightfully decide it isn't worth keeping us around. Facebook moderators break their NDAs to expose desperate working conditions - The Verge[^]

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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        Munchies_Matt
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        Like a policeman investigating child porn. Dear oh god, can you imagine how difficult that must be.

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        • realJSOPR realJSOP

          I just read an article about their content moderators, and some of the descriptions of content that they moderate, and it's f*ckin disturbing/disgusting what people post. I can't believe that people actually stay at such a job for more than a 20 minutes (and even that's pushing it). God help us if they put AI in charge of moderation. The computers will see/evaluate the attrocities that humans are capable of, and would rightfully decide it isn't worth keeping us around. Facebook moderators break their NDAs to expose desperate working conditions - The Verge[^]

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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          I remember posting the original article back in February. Both articles make for shocking reading. I would rather shovel shit for a living than work somewhere like that. These are the modern day equivalent of a sweat shop.

          "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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            I remember posting the original article back in February. Both articles make for shocking reading. I would rather shovel shit for a living than work somewhere like that. These are the modern day equivalent of a sweat shop.

            "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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            :thumbsup:

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              Like a policeman investigating child porn. Dear oh god, can you imagine how difficult that must be.

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              Richard Deeming
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              At least they get training and support, unlike the "unpaid volunteer" positions one force was recently advertising. West Midlands Police advertises unpaid forensics jobs - BBC News[^] West Midlands Police has advertised the unpaid roles, which involve sifting through "distressing [and] indecent images" :wtf:


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              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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              • D Dominic Burford

                I remember posting the original article back in February. Both articles make for shocking reading. I would rather shovel shit for a living than work somewhere like that. These are the modern day equivalent of a sweat shop.

                "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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                realJSOP
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                I was more commenting ion the content they have to moderate. Maybe they could just stop allowing the posting of videos and images...

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  I was more commenting ion the content they have to moderate. Maybe they could just stop allowing the posting of videos and images...

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  But then that would stop the 99% of perfectly legitimate and useful videos and images. I would prefer to see the acts themselves stopped, and action against the perpetrators. As the guy Shawn Speagle said, even after he'd reported one particular video to the authorities, he still kept seeing the same video over and over again. Clearly the authorities failed to act. I would prefer to see the scumbags who commit these acts (including those who film them) found and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

                  "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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                  • D Dominic Burford

                    But then that would stop the 99% of perfectly legitimate and useful videos and images. I would prefer to see the acts themselves stopped, and action against the perpetrators. As the guy Shawn Speagle said, even after he'd reported one particular video to the authorities, he still kept seeing the same video over and over again. Clearly the authorities failed to act. I would prefer to see the scumbags who commit these acts (including those who film them) found and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

                    "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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                    Dominic Burford wrote:

                    But then that would stop the 99% of perfectly legitimate and useful videos and images.

                    Exactly, how else would I know people had avocado toast for lunch, were trying on a dress in a dressing room, or know that their child is still alive since the last picture they posted of them five minutes previous?

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                      Dominic Burford wrote:

                      But then that would stop the 99% of perfectly legitimate and useful videos and images.

                      Exactly, how else would I know people had avocado toast for lunch, were trying on a dress in a dressing room, or know that their child is still alive since the last picture they posted of them five minutes previous?

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                      And what we would do with all those cat pictures :laugh:

                      "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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                      • D Dominic Burford

                        But then that would stop the 99% of perfectly legitimate and useful videos and images. I would prefer to see the acts themselves stopped, and action against the perpetrators. As the guy Shawn Speagle said, even after he'd reported one particular video to the authorities, he still kept seeing the same video over and over again. Clearly the authorities failed to act. I would prefer to see the scumbags who commit these acts (including those who film them) found and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

                        "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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                        realJSOP
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                        Dominic Burford wrote:

                        I would prefer to see the scumbags who commit these acts (including those who film them) found and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

                        As would I, but what to do in the meantime? The 1% is what nobody appears to be able to stop, so shut it all down.

                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                        • D Dominic Burford

                          But then that would stop the 99% of perfectly legitimate and useful videos and images. I would prefer to see the acts themselves stopped, and action against the perpetrators. As the guy Shawn Speagle said, even after he'd reported one particular video to the authorities, he still kept seeing the same video over and over again. Clearly the authorities failed to act. I would prefer to see the scumbags who commit these acts (including those who film them) found and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

                          "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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                          Mycroft Holmes
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                          I thought there was a direct reference between an account and a real person! I would put effort into a vigilantism to curb this sort of offending. I understand the police are not resourced to do this and I would not trust FB to do anything (they are not doing anything now) but if the account details were made public there may be an opportunity for some payback against these arseholes.

                          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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                          • realJSOPR realJSOP

                            I just read an article about their content moderators, and some of the descriptions of content that they moderate, and it's f*ckin disturbing/disgusting what people post. I can't believe that people actually stay at such a job for more than a 20 minutes (and even that's pushing it). God help us if they put AI in charge of moderation. The computers will see/evaluate the attrocities that humans are capable of, and would rightfully decide it isn't worth keeping us around. Facebook moderators break their NDAs to expose desperate working conditions - The Verge[^]

                            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                            -----
                            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                            Minion no 5
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                            Another reason to despise Facebook.:mad:

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                            • D Dominic Burford

                              But then that would stop the 99% of perfectly legitimate and useful videos and images. I would prefer to see the acts themselves stopped, and action against the perpetrators. As the guy Shawn Speagle said, even after he'd reported one particular video to the authorities, he still kept seeing the same video over and over again. Clearly the authorities failed to act. I would prefer to see the scumbags who commit these acts (including those who film them) found and prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

                              "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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                              Thanks7872
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                              Dominic Burford wrote:

                              ....and useful videos and images.

                              Since when something on Facebook became useful?

                              Try to find out fool in a deal. If you can't find one, it's you.

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