Code Project Project (CPP) [UPDATED 5/31]
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Three ideas. 1. The idea that Chris Maunder mentioned. The good thing about that project is that it is doable, practical. It can consist of a foundation layer and then phases as new controls are built. Results can be quickly achieved which is vital to the success of a project team like this. The down side is it is web-dev and I know not everyone here is interested in that. 2. A code snippet library sharing app and service, thing. Naturally with a Visual Studio add-in. There are a lot of them out there but after having spent a week downloading and testing most of them the common problem is they are nice but hardcore programmers will hate them. You know, the command line type of guy. Most of them are a pain to setup and have a bunch of features that hardcore okes will never use. It needs to be something really slick, something focused and direct that works like a hardcore chap expects it to. 3. A project management system. Phase tracking, bugs, document storage, client feedback area etc. Not a source control system, but a system for the management of a project that both managers/clients and the developers are happy with. We all bitch about management of projects, so lets do something about it for once.
Also for the project in general, especially the first time out, I would like to say; Think small, think focused, think useful. An operating system, a game? Come on guys, we know how that will go, it won't. We need something that will do one or two things very, very well. Something that can start small, a foundation layer, be released, see results and then can be extended as needed. It must be attainable. Management of this is going to be a nightmare. People get bored, go on holiday, disagree, fail to deliver or just disapear. Splinter groups will form. So if we do something small and focused the first time it sets a good precedent for later, larger projects. Lets rather get our internals working before we try and fix the world :)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
Why don't you split up your ideas, so that we easier can vote on the one we like. jhaga CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!
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Three ideas. 1. The idea that Chris Maunder mentioned. The good thing about that project is that it is doable, practical. It can consist of a foundation layer and then phases as new controls are built. Results can be quickly achieved which is vital to the success of a project team like this. The down side is it is web-dev and I know not everyone here is interested in that. 2. A code snippet library sharing app and service, thing. Naturally with a Visual Studio add-in. There are a lot of them out there but after having spent a week downloading and testing most of them the common problem is they are nice but hardcore programmers will hate them. You know, the command line type of guy. Most of them are a pain to setup and have a bunch of features that hardcore okes will never use. It needs to be something really slick, something focused and direct that works like a hardcore chap expects it to. 3. A project management system. Phase tracking, bugs, document storage, client feedback area etc. Not a source control system, but a system for the management of a project that both managers/clients and the developers are happy with. We all bitch about management of projects, so lets do something about it for once.
Also for the project in general, especially the first time out, I would like to say; Think small, think focused, think useful. An operating system, a game? Come on guys, we know how that will go, it won't. We need something that will do one or two things very, very well. Something that can start small, a foundation layer, be released, see results and then can be extended as needed. It must be attainable. Management of this is going to be a nightmare. People get bored, go on holiday, disagree, fail to deliver or just disapear. Splinter groups will form. So if we do something small and focused the first time it sets a good precedent for later, larger projects. Lets rather get our internals working before we try and fix the world :)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
Please put these ideas in seperate messages so they can be voted on individually. Then add your general comment to the comments section. We gotta follow the rules Paul. ;) Thanks.
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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empty message reply with general comments, etc.
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
Its amazing how many people don't follow rules or else just don't read them. :rolleyes:
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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empty message rely to this if you have an idea
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
How about some type of real-time collaboration add-in for VS, kinda like netmeeting, that would allow us to log into a session and work together on the same solution. It would need to incorporate a messaging and whiteboard system as well as mechanisms for who reads/writes the files and a way to track changes/et. al. May seem overwhelming at first, but with enough polishing, we may end up with a workable environment. - Nitron
"Those that say a task is impossible shouldn't interrupt the ones who are doing it." - Chinese Proverb
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Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
:) John
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PLEASE READ THE COMMENTS SECTION Since I have taken the liberty of starting things, I will post thread management and CPP statements there. PLEASE no subthreads in any section except COMMENTS. I have added a new section, POLLS, which will be used to get specific user feedback. Please participate. First things first. Let's get a list of those that would like to be involved in whatever project we decide to do. Please reply to the VOLUNTEERS message below this one. No sub threads please. Also, if you reply in another thread, too bad. This will give us an idea of how many people we're dealing with. Secondly, we need to decide on the project that we want to make. Please reply to the IDEAS thread if you have an idea. Lastly, we need to decide on how we will control the project's source and distribution among the developers. Please reply to the SOURCE CONTROL thread if you have ideas for the best way to handle this. We will cut off project IDEAS (for CPP phase 1) on Monday June 2nd. If you have a great idea after that date, too bad. We'll use it for the next phase of CPP's if this first phase is a success. Also, I think we need to set a project initialization date so let's go with June 9th. This is the date we'll create the article and divvy up responsibilities. General comments to this idea, etc. should be posted in the COMMENTS thread below. Let's keep the thread "clean" so we won't get confused. I will take responsibility of monitoring this CPP thread pool and handing out initial duties until such time as we collectively choose our project leadership. THANK YOU!
Jason Henderson
empty message Just so this doesn't get out of hand, let me post new polls directly under this message. If you would like to ask a poll question, please ask me to write it out by posting a request in the COMMENTS section. thanks
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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empty message Just so this doesn't get out of hand, let me post new polls directly under this message. If you would like to ask a poll question, please ask me to write it out by posting a request in the COMMENTS section. thanks
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
Should we use only the most popular idea or should we split the ideas into multiple projects?
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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Should we use only the most popular idea or should we split the ideas into multiple projects?
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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Should we use only the most popular idea or should we split the ideas into multiple projects?
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
In order for polls to work in this discussion forum, I think you'll want to post the poll title, then one new post below that for each poll option. Then we can vote a 5 for the one we want (and leave the others alone). The post with the most votes then one the poll. That way there will be far fewer posts and an easier way of determining the winner. Ex: POLL: Do you like beef? Re: POLL: Do you like beef? "Yes" Re: POLL: Do you like beef? "No" Of course, you could make it cleaner by just putting "Yes" and "No" in the message titles, but I wanted to make the concept easy to understand. [edit]I'll post an example below this message, then delete it when it serves no more purpose.[/edit] John
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Chris Maunder wrote: *points to Paul* You evil, evil man. You soften me up on IM, then the penny drops on this forum. ;)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
Mwahaha :D cheers, Chris Maunder
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In order for polls to work in this discussion forum, I think you'll want to post the poll title, then one new post below that for each poll option. Then we can vote a 5 for the one we want (and leave the others alone). The post with the most votes then one the poll. That way there will be far fewer posts and an easier way of determining the winner. Ex: POLL: Do you like beef? Re: POLL: Do you like beef? "Yes" Re: POLL: Do you like beef? "No" Of course, you could make it cleaner by just putting "Yes" and "No" in the message titles, but I wanted to make the concept easy to understand. [edit]I'll post an example below this message, then delete it when it serves no more purpose.[/edit] John
Reply to this poll by voting on the existing reply options
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Reply to this poll by voting on the existing reply options
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Reply to this poll by voting on the existing reply options
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Reply to this poll by voting on the existing reply options
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In order for polls to work in this discussion forum, I think you'll want to post the poll title, then one new post below that for each poll option. Then we can vote a 5 for the one we want (and leave the others alone). The post with the most votes then one the poll. That way there will be far fewer posts and an easier way of determining the winner. Ex: POLL: Do you like beef? Re: POLL: Do you like beef? "Yes" Re: POLL: Do you like beef? "No" Of course, you could make it cleaner by just putting "Yes" and "No" in the message titles, but I wanted to make the concept easy to understand. [edit]I'll post an example below this message, then delete it when it serves no more purpose.[/edit] John
Its an informal process at the moment, so please just give an answer to the question. If you wish to make a suggestion, then use the comments section.
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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Should we use only the most popular idea or should we split the ideas into multiple projects?
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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Please put these ideas in seperate messages so they can be voted on individually. Then add your general comment to the comments section. We gotta follow the rules Paul. ;) Thanks.
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
Jason Henderson wrote: We gotta follow the rules Paul. Apologies Saheeb. I will repost. On that though really we should have another thread called Final Ideas (you create it and populate it with each seperate idea, merging similar or ideas which are the same.) Then there can be a call for two days of voting (not over a weekend) for the final tally. As it is now the main rush of voting was probably over before the last few ideas. Not that I mind much either way really, whatever gets us going is the best :)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
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Jason Henderson wrote: We gotta follow the rules Paul. Apologies Saheeb. I will repost. On that though really we should have another thread called Final Ideas (you create it and populate it with each seperate idea, merging similar or ideas which are the same.) Then there can be a call for two days of voting (not over a weekend) for the final tally. As it is now the main rush of voting was probably over before the last few ideas. Not that I mind much either way really, whatever gets us going is the best :)
Paul Watson
Bluegrass
Cape Town, South AfricaChris Losinger wrote: i hate needles so much i can't even imagine allowing one near The Little Programmer
Paul Watson wrote: On that though really we should have another thread called Final Ideas (you create it and populate it with each seperate idea, merging similar or ideas which are the same.) Then there can be a call for two days of voting (not over a weekend) for the final tally. As it is now the main rush of voting was probably over before the last few ideas. That's what I generally had in mind.
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
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Should we use only the most popular idea or should we split the ideas into multiple projects?
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
and we can discuss it in the lounge. With many projects we probably can't ! CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!
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Its an informal process at the moment, so please just give an answer to the question. If you wish to make a suggestion, then use the comments section.
Jason Henderson
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
Jason Henderson wrote: If you wish to make a suggestion, then use the comments section. Will do from now on. I just thought that you really don't want an additional 100+ responses for every poll you'll be posting. This thread is already likely to have won the "Most Massive Code Project Thread" award! Let me know if/when you want me to delete these. John