How many lines-of-code does a developer write (life time)?
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I know, i know,... "define, how to count: comments yes/no? blank lines yes/no? what counts as line?" Just a rough estimate, plain counting the lines of text in a source file, inlucing comments, blanks, multi-line-statements and all... Did you ever think about your life-time lines output? Can you roughly count back, from the beginning? Are you over 1 million? 10 million? how many per year? I am asking this, because we have a funny discussion running here in the office about the size of the first Wolfenstein 3D, MS-DOS and Windows 3.11 --- their source lines and the sizes of todays apps and OS'es, as everybody can check out Android source code if he likes to and lots of software is open nowadays.
|| You know nothing, Jon Snow. || My Android Label (mbar Software) || My Android Apps in Play Store
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I know, i know,... "define, how to count: comments yes/no? blank lines yes/no? what counts as line?" Just a rough estimate, plain counting the lines of text in a source file, inlucing comments, blanks, multi-line-statements and all... Did you ever think about your life-time lines output? Can you roughly count back, from the beginning? Are you over 1 million? 10 million? how many per year? I am asking this, because we have a funny discussion running here in the office about the size of the first Wolfenstein 3D, MS-DOS and Windows 3.11 --- their source lines and the sizes of todays apps and OS'es, as everybody can check out Android source code if he likes to and lots of software is open nowadays.
|| You know nothing, Jon Snow. || My Android Label (mbar Software) || My Android Apps in Play Store
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Another interesting question would be: "how many lines of code does a developer delete (life time)?".
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I know, i know,... "define, how to count: comments yes/no? blank lines yes/no? what counts as line?" Just a rough estimate, plain counting the lines of text in a source file, inlucing comments, blanks, multi-line-statements and all... Did you ever think about your life-time lines output? Can you roughly count back, from the beginning? Are you over 1 million? 10 million? how many per year? I am asking this, because we have a funny discussion running here in the office about the size of the first Wolfenstein 3D, MS-DOS and Windows 3.11 --- their source lines and the sizes of todays apps and OS'es, as everybody can check out Android source code if he likes to and lots of software is open nowadays.
|| You know nothing, Jon Snow. || My Android Label (mbar Software) || My Android Apps in Play Store
What of the velocity of lines of code written over time. Early on, you might write lots of lines of code. say 1000 lines. push to release. sum = 1000 But 200 of which is bad. So rewrite those. RELEASE! sum = 1200 Then you refactor. cutting out 400 lines. Release is now 600 lines. RELEASE! sum = 1200 + 300 (not 400 as rewrote some multi lines as singular lines) = 1500 Project 2. Very Similar to Project 1. But know you know mistakes. And some extra feature. Same amount of time. 600 lines. RELEASE. sum= 2100 Year 1. 1500 lines. Year 2. 600 lines. Then you build a library of reusable stubs, which you reuse. Released lines of new code I would say goes down. Maybe some increases when figuring out a new language. Oh, but released lines of code would tend to increase. Because that library of support code you use to reduce the amount of new lines you need to write, will increase and bloated to cover the odd and weird corner cases it needs to satisfy.
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What of the velocity of lines of code written over time. Early on, you might write lots of lines of code. say 1000 lines. push to release. sum = 1000 But 200 of which is bad. So rewrite those. RELEASE! sum = 1200 Then you refactor. cutting out 400 lines. Release is now 600 lines. RELEASE! sum = 1200 + 300 (not 400 as rewrote some multi lines as singular lines) = 1500 Project 2. Very Similar to Project 1. But know you know mistakes. And some extra feature. Same amount of time. 600 lines. RELEASE. sum= 2100 Year 1. 1500 lines. Year 2. 600 lines. Then you build a library of reusable stubs, which you reuse. Released lines of new code I would say goes down. Maybe some increases when figuring out a new language. Oh, but released lines of code would tend to increase. Because that library of support code you use to reduce the amount of new lines you need to write, will increase and bloated to cover the odd and weird corner cases it needs to satisfy.
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I know, i know,... "define, how to count: comments yes/no? blank lines yes/no? what counts as line?" Just a rough estimate, plain counting the lines of text in a source file, inlucing comments, blanks, multi-line-statements and all... Did you ever think about your life-time lines output? Can you roughly count back, from the beginning? Are you over 1 million? 10 million? how many per year? I am asking this, because we have a funny discussion running here in the office about the size of the first Wolfenstein 3D, MS-DOS and Windows 3.11 --- their source lines and the sizes of todays apps and OS'es, as everybody can check out Android source code if he likes to and lots of software is open nowadays.
|| You know nothing, Jon Snow. || My Android Label (mbar Software) || My Android Apps in Play Store
stupid metric. I don't write effective (wrong word here) line of code that often, most of the time it is generic boilerplate code to make those those effective line of code work.
I'd rather be phishing!
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I know, i know,... "define, how to count: comments yes/no? blank lines yes/no? what counts as line?" Just a rough estimate, plain counting the lines of text in a source file, inlucing comments, blanks, multi-line-statements and all... Did you ever think about your life-time lines output? Can you roughly count back, from the beginning? Are you over 1 million? 10 million? how many per year? I am asking this, because we have a funny discussion running here in the office about the size of the first Wolfenstein 3D, MS-DOS and Windows 3.11 --- their source lines and the sizes of todays apps and OS'es, as everybody can check out Android source code if he likes to and lots of software is open nowadays.
|| You know nothing, Jon Snow. || My Android Label (mbar Software) || My Android Apps in Play Store
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I know, i know,... "define, how to count: comments yes/no? blank lines yes/no? what counts as line?" Just a rough estimate, plain counting the lines of text in a source file, inlucing comments, blanks, multi-line-statements and all... Did you ever think about your life-time lines output? Can you roughly count back, from the beginning? Are you over 1 million? 10 million? how many per year? I am asking this, because we have a funny discussion running here in the office about the size of the first Wolfenstein 3D, MS-DOS and Windows 3.11 --- their source lines and the sizes of todays apps and OS'es, as everybody can check out Android source code if he likes to and lots of software is open nowadays.
|| You know nothing, Jon Snow. || My Android Label (mbar Software) || My Android Apps in Play Store
How about keystrokes? :) Keys Left - You have a finite number of keystrokes left in your hands before you die. How many is that?[^]
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
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My boss says a good programmer is the one who uses the least lines of code... so I have made a personal rule of never using line breaks. So that means, one line per application. And I am sure we all know that an application is never really complete. (Customer never happy, customer want more and more.) So that means, in 10 years, I am still yet to finish my first line of code... hmmm... how many decimal places would you like the answer to?
Not an answer to the question, just a thought... Image you could estimate the lines of code an average developer writes in a lifetime and you could also estimate the lines of code you have already written. Then you could calculate the lines of code you would need to write until you die.
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How about keystrokes? :) Keys Left - You have a finite number of keystrokes left in your hands before you die. How many is that?[^]
"These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer
That's awesome! I rather suspect that Lee Child, Bernard Cornwell and a fair few others have used up all of theirs by now but their novels keep coming on a daily basis, so I guess they must be using voice recognition software.
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
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Not an answer to the question, just a thought... Image you could estimate the lines of code an average developer writes in a lifetime and you could also estimate the lines of code you have already written. Then you could calculate the lines of code you would need to write until you die.
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Are we talking "lines of code" or "original lines of code"? Because I'm pretty sure most of the modern stuff is just copy'n'patse from SO, QA, the back of a cereal packet ...
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OriginalGriff wrote:
Are we talking "lines of code" or "original lines of code"?
Original? As you said, there's no original code now. Just the stuff we keep copying and pasting. I think all the copying started back in K&R C and then Petzold Programming Windows. After that, once it got onto the Internet it's all just copy code. All code can be directly traced back to those two sources. :laugh:
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That's awesome! I rather suspect that Lee Child, Bernard Cornwell and a fair few others have used up all of theirs by now but their novels keep coming on a daily basis, so I guess they must be using voice recognition software.
Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain
Reacher said nothing.
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I know, i know,... "define, how to count: comments yes/no? blank lines yes/no? what counts as line?" Just a rough estimate, plain counting the lines of text in a source file, inlucing comments, blanks, multi-line-statements and all... Did you ever think about your life-time lines output? Can you roughly count back, from the beginning? Are you over 1 million? 10 million? how many per year? I am asking this, because we have a funny discussion running here in the office about the size of the first Wolfenstein 3D, MS-DOS and Windows 3.11 --- their source lines and the sizes of todays apps and OS'es, as everybody can check out Android source code if he likes to and lots of software is open nowadays.
|| You know nothing, Jon Snow. || My Android Label (mbar Software) || My Android Apps in Play Store
I've heard that about thirty years back (when C was more dominant), some managers used to have tools to count the number of semicolons, each semicolon signifying a line as productivity tools. So, some developers used to have lines as ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; which is as many lines of code.
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I know, i know,... "define, how to count: comments yes/no? blank lines yes/no? what counts as line?" Just a rough estimate, plain counting the lines of text in a source file, inlucing comments, blanks, multi-line-statements and all... Did you ever think about your life-time lines output? Can you roughly count back, from the beginning? Are you over 1 million? 10 million? how many per year? I am asking this, because we have a funny discussion running here in the office about the size of the first Wolfenstein 3D, MS-DOS and Windows 3.11 --- their source lines and the sizes of todays apps and OS'es, as everybody can check out Android source code if he likes to and lots of software is open nowadays.
|| You know nothing, Jon Snow. || My Android Label (mbar Software) || My Android Apps in Play Store
let's see. I've written about 10,000 lines this week (strangely enough, I've been counting, and working on a single project so it's easy) gosh. im my life? I've been coding for about 32 years I type faster these days, and have a lot of time to do it these days. and I can crank out what, 520,000 lines a year if I apply myself. *32 years = 16,640,000 lines of code. we'll halve it. 8,320,000 so far. i've probably got another 10 million in me.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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My boss says a good programmer is the one who uses the least lines of code... so I have made a personal rule of never using line breaks. So that means, one line per application. And I am sure we all know that an application is never really complete. (Customer never happy, customer want more and more.) So that means, in 10 years, I am still yet to finish my first line of code... hmmm... how many decimal places would you like the answer to?
lol
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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I've heard that about thirty years back (when C was more dominant), some managers used to have tools to count the number of semicolons, each semicolon signifying a line as productivity tools. So, some developers used to have lines as ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; which is as many lines of code.
for loops counts as 3 lines. glad i barely use linq. LOL
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Are we talking "lines of code" or "original lines of code"? Because I'm pretty sure most of the modern stuff is just copy'n'patse from SO, QA, the back of a cereal packet ...
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i've got a whole routine i cut and pasted from stackoverflow in my project. (it just prints an ascii tree of some data, but still THE SHAME!)
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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I know, i know,... "define, how to count: comments yes/no? blank lines yes/no? what counts as line?" Just a rough estimate, plain counting the lines of text in a source file, inlucing comments, blanks, multi-line-statements and all... Did you ever think about your life-time lines output? Can you roughly count back, from the beginning? Are you over 1 million? 10 million? how many per year? I am asking this, because we have a funny discussion running here in the office about the size of the first Wolfenstein 3D, MS-DOS and Windows 3.11 --- their source lines and the sizes of todays apps and OS'es, as everybody can check out Android source code if he likes to and lots of software is open nowadays.
|| You know nothing, Jon Snow. || My Android Label (mbar Software) || My Android Apps in Play Store
120,325,116 lines of code....no less, no more. duh. easy question, next?! :-D