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How many lines-of-code does a developer write (life time)?

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  • M Mike Prof Chuck

    I know, i know,... "define, how to count: comments yes/no? blank lines yes/no? what counts as line?" Just a rough estimate, plain counting the lines of text in a source file, inlucing comments, blanks, multi-line-statements and all... Did you ever think about your life-time lines output? Can you roughly count back, from the beginning? Are you over 1 million? 10 million? how many per year? I am asking this, because we have a funny discussion running here in the office about the size of the first Wolfenstein 3D, MS-DOS and Windows 3.11 --- their source lines and the sizes of todays apps and OS'es, as everybody can check out Android source code if he likes to and lots of software is open nowadays.

    || You know nothing, Jon Snow. || My Android Label (mbar Software) || My Android Apps in Play Store

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    Maximilien
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    stupid metric. I don't write effective (wrong word here) line of code that often, most of the time it is generic boilerplate code to make those those effective line of code work.

    I'd rather be phishing!

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    • M Mike Prof Chuck

      I know, i know,... "define, how to count: comments yes/no? blank lines yes/no? what counts as line?" Just a rough estimate, plain counting the lines of text in a source file, inlucing comments, blanks, multi-line-statements and all... Did you ever think about your life-time lines output? Can you roughly count back, from the beginning? Are you over 1 million? 10 million? how many per year? I am asking this, because we have a funny discussion running here in the office about the size of the first Wolfenstein 3D, MS-DOS and Windows 3.11 --- their source lines and the sizes of todays apps and OS'es, as everybody can check out Android source code if he likes to and lots of software is open nowadays.

      || You know nothing, Jon Snow. || My Android Label (mbar Software) || My Android Apps in Play Store

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      Lost User
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      write lines of code??? why? post question to CP/SO, wait for replies (check for flames on newbie answers) cut paste ZERO lines of code written.

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      • M Mike Prof Chuck

        I know, i know,... "define, how to count: comments yes/no? blank lines yes/no? what counts as line?" Just a rough estimate, plain counting the lines of text in a source file, inlucing comments, blanks, multi-line-statements and all... Did you ever think about your life-time lines output? Can you roughly count back, from the beginning? Are you over 1 million? 10 million? how many per year? I am asking this, because we have a funny discussion running here in the office about the size of the first Wolfenstein 3D, MS-DOS and Windows 3.11 --- their source lines and the sizes of todays apps and OS'es, as everybody can check out Android source code if he likes to and lots of software is open nowadays.

        || You know nothing, Jon Snow. || My Android Label (mbar Software) || My Android Apps in Play Store

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        Richard Deeming
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        How about keystrokes? :) Keys Left - You have a finite number of keystrokes left in your hands before you die. How many is that?[^]


        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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        • M musefan

          My boss says a good programmer is the one who uses the least lines of code... so I have made a personal rule of never using line breaks. So that means, one line per application. And I am sure we all know that an application is never really complete. (Customer never happy, customer want more and more.) So that means, in 10 years, I am still yet to finish my first line of code... hmmm... how many decimal places would you like the answer to?

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          Power Puff Boy
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          Not an answer to the question, just a thought... Image you could estimate the lines of code an average developer writes in a lifetime and you could also estimate the lines of code you have already written. Then you could calculate the lines of code you would need to write until you die.

          BREAKING FAKE NEWS: Trump told the truth!

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          • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

            How about keystrokes? :) Keys Left - You have a finite number of keystrokes left in your hands before you die. How many is that?[^]


            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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            PeejayAdams
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            That's awesome! I rather suspect that Lee Child, Bernard Cornwell and a fair few others have used up all of theirs by now but their novels keep coming on a daily basis, so I guess they must be using voice recognition software.

            Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain

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            • P Power Puff Boy

              Not an answer to the question, just a thought... Image you could estimate the lines of code an average developer writes in a lifetime and you could also estimate the lines of code you have already written. Then you could calculate the lines of code you would need to write until you die.

              BREAKING FAKE NEWS: Trump told the truth!

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              musefan
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              Power Puff Boy wrote:

              Then you could calculate the lines of code you would need to write until you die.

              Or perhaps you mean you could calculate how many more lines of code it will take until you drop dead... X|

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              • M musefan

                None... that's what comment blocks are for! :-D

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                CPallini
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                That would make my code a colossal collection of comments. :laugh:

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  Are we talking "lines of code" or "original lines of code"? Because I'm pretty sure most of the modern stuff is just copy'n'patse from SO, QA, the back of a cereal packet ...

                  Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                  raddevus
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                  OriginalGriff wrote:

                  Are we talking "lines of code" or "original lines of code"?

                  Original? As you said, there's no original code now. Just the stuff we keep copying and pasting. I think all the copying started back in K&R C and then Petzold Programming Windows. After that, once it got onto the Internet it's all just copy code. All code can be directly traced back to those two sources. :laugh:

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                  • P PeejayAdams

                    That's awesome! I rather suspect that Lee Child, Bernard Cornwell and a fair few others have used up all of theirs by now but their novels keep coming on a daily basis, so I guess they must be using voice recognition software.

                    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain

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                    Reacher said nothing.

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                    • M Mike Prof Chuck

                      I know, i know,... "define, how to count: comments yes/no? blank lines yes/no? what counts as line?" Just a rough estimate, plain counting the lines of text in a source file, inlucing comments, blanks, multi-line-statements and all... Did you ever think about your life-time lines output? Can you roughly count back, from the beginning? Are you over 1 million? 10 million? how many per year? I am asking this, because we have a funny discussion running here in the office about the size of the first Wolfenstein 3D, MS-DOS and Windows 3.11 --- their source lines and the sizes of todays apps and OS'es, as everybody can check out Android source code if he likes to and lots of software is open nowadays.

                      || You know nothing, Jon Snow. || My Android Label (mbar Software) || My Android Apps in Play Store

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                      Amarnath S
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                      I've heard that about thirty years back (when C was more dominant), some managers used to have tools to count the number of semicolons, each semicolon signifying a line as productivity tools. So, some developers used to have lines as ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; which is as many lines of code.

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                      • M Mike Prof Chuck

                        I know, i know,... "define, how to count: comments yes/no? blank lines yes/no? what counts as line?" Just a rough estimate, plain counting the lines of text in a source file, inlucing comments, blanks, multi-line-statements and all... Did you ever think about your life-time lines output? Can you roughly count back, from the beginning? Are you over 1 million? 10 million? how many per year? I am asking this, because we have a funny discussion running here in the office about the size of the first Wolfenstein 3D, MS-DOS and Windows 3.11 --- their source lines and the sizes of todays apps and OS'es, as everybody can check out Android source code if he likes to and lots of software is open nowadays.

                        || You know nothing, Jon Snow. || My Android Label (mbar Software) || My Android Apps in Play Store

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                        honey the codewitch
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                        let's see. I've written about 10,000 lines this week (strangely enough, I've been counting, and working on a single project so it's easy) gosh. im my life? I've been coding for about 32 years I type faster these days, and have a lot of time to do it these days. and I can crank out what, 520,000 lines a year if I apply myself. *32 years = 16,640,000 lines of code. we'll halve it. 8,320,000 so far. i've probably got another 10 million in me.

                        When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                        • M musefan

                          My boss says a good programmer is the one who uses the least lines of code... so I have made a personal rule of never using line breaks. So that means, one line per application. And I am sure we all know that an application is never really complete. (Customer never happy, customer want more and more.) So that means, in 10 years, I am still yet to finish my first line of code... hmmm... how many decimal places would you like the answer to?

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                          honey the codewitch
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                          lol

                          When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                          • A Amarnath S

                            I've heard that about thirty years back (when C was more dominant), some managers used to have tools to count the number of semicolons, each semicolon signifying a line as productivity tools. So, some developers used to have lines as ;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;; which is as many lines of code.

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                            honey the codewitch
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                            for loops counts as 3 lines. glad i barely use linq. LOL

                            When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                              Are we talking "lines of code" or "original lines of code"? Because I'm pretty sure most of the modern stuff is just copy'n'patse from SO, QA, the back of a cereal packet ...

                              Sent from my Amstrad PC 1640 Never throw anything away, Griff Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay... AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                              honey the codewitch
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                              i've got a whole routine i cut and pasted from stackoverflow in my project. (it just prints an ascii tree of some data, but still THE SHAME!)

                              When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                              • M Mike Prof Chuck

                                I know, i know,... "define, how to count: comments yes/no? blank lines yes/no? what counts as line?" Just a rough estimate, plain counting the lines of text in a source file, inlucing comments, blanks, multi-line-statements and all... Did you ever think about your life-time lines output? Can you roughly count back, from the beginning? Are you over 1 million? 10 million? how many per year? I am asking this, because we have a funny discussion running here in the office about the size of the first Wolfenstein 3D, MS-DOS and Windows 3.11 --- their source lines and the sizes of todays apps and OS'es, as everybody can check out Android source code if he likes to and lots of software is open nowadays.

                                || You know nothing, Jon Snow. || My Android Label (mbar Software) || My Android Apps in Play Store

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                                Slacker007
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                                120,325,116 lines of code....no less, no more. duh. easy question, next?! :-D

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                                • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                  How about keystrokes? :) Keys Left - You have a finite number of keystrokes left in your hands before you die. How many is that?[^]


                                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                  Forogar
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                                  Apparently I still have 34 novels left. I'd better get started... "It was a dark and stormy night..." :java:

                                  - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                  • M MarkTJohnson

                                    Reacher said nothing.

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                                    PeejayAdams
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                                    Reacher said nothing. He could tell from the grease stain on the safety-catch that the Glock XP3-15 had been fired three times, yet he had only heard two shots. The smell from the muzzle indicated that the first shot had been fired 42 minutes and 17 seconds prior to the first. Given that the truck had been heading east at an average of 45 MPH, he knew for sure that this was the weapon that had killed Jackson in the warehouse in Topeka, the gun being held at an angle of about 15.6 degrees so that the shell would have severed Jackson's cerebral cortex instantly. The FBI forensic team duly resigned as they felt so crushingly unnecessary ... (I actually really liked the couple of Reacher books I read, but how many do we actually need?)

                                    Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Mark Twain

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                                    • M musefan

                                      My boss says a good programmer is the one who uses the least lines of code... so I have made a personal rule of never using line breaks. So that means, one line per application. And I am sure we all know that an application is never really complete. (Customer never happy, customer want more and more.) So that means, in 10 years, I am still yet to finish my first line of code... hmmm... how many decimal places would you like the answer to?

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                                      kalberts
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                                      The goal of every APL programmer is to write the program on a single line. With APL, it is somewhat more realistic than in most other languages, like "The game of life" (from the Wikipedia article on APL): life←{↑1 ⍵∨.∧3 4=+/,¯1 0 1∘.⊖¯1 0 1∘.⌽⊂⍵} Thirty years ago, I did a little APL programming - but please don't ask me to explain this program. Give me at least three months to decipher it!

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                                      • M Mike Prof Chuck

                                        I know, i know,... "define, how to count: comments yes/no? blank lines yes/no? what counts as line?" Just a rough estimate, plain counting the lines of text in a source file, inlucing comments, blanks, multi-line-statements and all... Did you ever think about your life-time lines output? Can you roughly count back, from the beginning? Are you over 1 million? 10 million? how many per year? I am asking this, because we have a funny discussion running here in the office about the size of the first Wolfenstein 3D, MS-DOS and Windows 3.11 --- their source lines and the sizes of todays apps and OS'es, as everybody can check out Android source code if he likes to and lots of software is open nowadays.

                                        || You know nothing, Jon Snow. || My Android Label (mbar Software) || My Android Apps in Play Store

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                                        kmoorevs
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                                        I'm finding that as the years go by, I'm writing less and less new code. That is to say, I encounter fewer situations that I haven't already dealt with. Being lazy, this leads to either copy/pasta and probably some customization, or better the creation of a reusable utility function. Also, the IDEs, particularly intellisense are so much better these days than when I started...this code was generated by a tool. :laugh: That said, a rough estimate would be around 1.8M in 20 years, around 90K/year average, but as stated, the majority would have been written in the first half of that time frame.

                                        "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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                                        • M musefan

                                          My boss says a good programmer is the one who uses the least lines of code... so I have made a personal rule of never using line breaks. So that means, one line per application. And I am sure we all know that an application is never really complete. (Customer never happy, customer want more and more.) So that means, in 10 years, I am still yet to finish my first line of code... hmmm... how many decimal places would you like the answer to?

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                                          realJSOP
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                                          Your boss is an idiot, and you can tell him I said so.

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