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  • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

    Sander Rossel wrote:

    I'm a vegetarian, so let's say I save about 25 animals a year

    I'm a vegetarian too, but learned that I save no animals at all... Those animals end up on someone's plate where grew for eating - if there is no sale there is no animal, and for that no saving... (hunting can be a sample, but it is so minor, that does not really count)

    "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

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    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

    if there is no sale there is no animal, and for that no saving

    I see no animal as a save. It's better to not have an animal at all than to have an animal being tortured and killed :) Besides, less animals means less greenhouse gasses, which means cleaner air... In fact, scientists say we should all switch to a vegetarian diet if we want to save the planet. So perhaps no animal is even better than a saved one (we can't keep them all anyway) :)

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    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

      Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

      if there is no sale there is no animal, and for that no saving

      I see no animal as a save. It's better to not have an animal at all than to have an animal being tortured and killed :) Besides, less animals means less greenhouse gasses, which means cleaner air... In fact, scientists say we should all switch to a vegetarian diet if we want to save the planet. So perhaps no animal is even better than a saved one (we can't keep them all anyway) :)

      Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Continuous Integration, Delivery, and Deployment arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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      Sander Rossel wrote:

      animal being tortured

      Sander Rossel wrote:

      less animals means less greenhouse gasses, which means cleaner air...

      More or less my reasons not to eat them... First of all the way they handled is horrible... Second our planet not seems to handle well the amount of 'extra-life' we create in modern economy (of which a large portion turns into waste, as there is no good distribution of resources if any)....

      "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

      "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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      • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

        Sander Rossel wrote:

        animal being tortured

        Sander Rossel wrote:

        less animals means less greenhouse gasses, which means cleaner air...

        More or less my reasons not to eat them... First of all the way they handled is horrible... Second our planet not seems to handle well the amount of 'extra-life' we create in modern economy (of which a large portion turns into waste, as there is no good distribution of resources if any)....

        "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

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        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter wrote:

        Second our planet not seems to handle well the amount of 'extra-life' we create in modern economy (of which a large portion turns into waste, as there is no good distribution of resources if any)....

        You told it, the problem are not the animals. We are the problem

        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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        • D David ONeil

          F-ES Sitecore wrote:

          No Christian has ever murdered a gay person because a priest said homosexuality was a sin.

          Stop deluding yourself. If that was the case, things like the Gay Panic Defense would never have existed in this 'Christian Nation' of ours.

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          ZurdoDev
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          David O'Neil wrote:

          If that was the case, things like the Gay Panic Defense would never have existed in this 'Christian Nation' of ours.

          That's an untrue premise. This is a free country and therefore we'll have every kind of crazy.

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            Richard MacCutchan wrote:

            Well we only have <insert random number here> months to save the planet

            Actually, we're already too late. ‘WE’RE TOO LATE’: Democrat Andrew Yang Takes Climate Hysteria To New Level | Daily Wire[^] :-D

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            Has Andrew Yang been buying lots of real estate in the mountains recently?

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              David O'Neil wrote:

              If that was the case, things like the Gay Panic Defense would never have existed in this 'Christian Nation' of ours.

              That's an untrue premise. This is a free country and therefore we'll have every kind of crazy.

              Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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              You are simply uneducated on the subject. [Christianity and homosexuality - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity\_and\_homosexuality). When I was a kid, I remember homosexuality being in the news because it was being spread from pulpits. It may have been before your time, but that fearmongering by churches, including those you consider 'Christian', is the reason for that law's existence.

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              • D David ONeil

                You are simply uneducated on the subject. [Christianity and homosexuality - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity\_and\_homosexuality). When I was a kid, I remember homosexuality being in the news because it was being spread from pulpits. It may have been before your time, but that fearmongering by churches, including those you consider 'Christian', is the reason for that law's existence.

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                David O'Neil wrote:

                You are simply uneducated on the subject.

                How so?

                David O'Neil wrote:

                including those you consider 'Christian',

                You don't know anything about me. :doh:

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                  That law has nothing to do with people killing homosexuals because a priest told them it was a sin. For every case you show me of a Christian killing a gay person because a priest said homosexuality was a sin, I'll show you 100 cases of Muslims killing gays right up til today. You want links to a recent survey showing 50% of Muslims in UK think homosexuality should be illegal? Want me to show you videos of Muslims protesting outside schools in the UK against LGBT awareness and the kind of homophobic things they're saying? Want to see videos of Muslims assaulting gay people at "pride" festivals? Cos I don't see a lot of this stuff coming from any religion other than Islam....

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                  No Christian has ever murdered a gay person

                  F-ES Sitecore wrote:

                  For every case you show me of a Christian killing a gay person

                  Good. You are deluding yourself a bit less. It has happened in the past, and in this current climate it may happen again. I know there was a transsexual killed near where I live lately, and the list of those atrocities is disgustingly growing. Many of them are propelled by religious beliefs, including Christian beliefs. Maybe not your 'version' of Christianity, but Christian non-the-less. Christian history, of which Catholicism is a part, has some atrocities in it just as ugly as Muslim acts. "Let God sort them out." The Crusades. Salem Witch Hunts.

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                    David O'Neil wrote:

                    You are simply uneducated on the subject.

                    How so?

                    David O'Neil wrote:

                    including those you consider 'Christian',

                    You don't know anything about me. :doh:

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                    David ONeil
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                    That link can start showing you how. I know something about you simply from your posts. For example, I know you depict Democrats poorly, almost as if you despise them. That says a lot about your personality. Unless, of course, you are just trolling. In which case, ha, ha! Have a good day!

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                    • D David ONeil

                      That link can start showing you how. I know something about you simply from your posts. For example, I know you depict Democrats poorly, almost as if you despise them. That says a lot about your personality. Unless, of course, you are just trolling. In which case, ha, ha! Have a good day!

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                      David O'Neil wrote:

                      That link can start showing you how.

                      I read through a lot of it and didn't see anything I didn't know. So, the fact that you can't actually articulate where I am wrong, leads me to believe that you have nothing.

                      David O'Neil wrote:

                      That says a lot about your personality.

                      Really? What does it say? There's a cash reward for anyone that can even come close to profiling me. I've offered this several times before and no one has ever gotten close.

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                        David O'Neil wrote:

                        That link can start showing you how.

                        I read through a lot of it and didn't see anything I didn't know. So, the fact that you can't actually articulate where I am wrong, leads me to believe that you have nothing.

                        David O'Neil wrote:

                        That says a lot about your personality.

                        Really? What does it say? There's a cash reward for anyone that can even come close to profiling me. I've offered this several times before and no one has ever gotten close.

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                        You are just simply uneducated on the subject. :laugh: :laugh:

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                          You are just simply uneducated on the subject. :laugh: :laugh:

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                          ZurdoDev
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                          Uh, no I'm not. See this link, Google[^]. It has all the information right there to prove I know nothing. But you are right. I am certainly uneducated on what the heck David is talking about. And since he won't answer, I'll remain ignorant. :laugh: :laugh:

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                            David O'Neil wrote:

                            That link can start showing you how.

                            I read through a lot of it and didn't see anything I didn't know. So, the fact that you can't actually articulate where I am wrong, leads me to believe that you have nothing.

                            David O'Neil wrote:

                            That says a lot about your personality.

                            Really? What does it say? There's a cash reward for anyone that can even come close to profiling me. I've offered this several times before and no one has ever gotten close.

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                            Have a good day, troll!

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                              Have a good day, troll!

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                              ZurdoDev
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                              David O'Neil wrote:

                              Have a good day, troll!

                              I'm the troll? I've answered each of your questions. You didn't answer any of mine and you call me the troll? That's cowardly and dishonest. I'm going to go out on a limb here and call you a left-leaning Democrat, since your behavior mimics one. :wtf: :wtf:

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                                Richard MacCutchan wrote:

                                Well we only have <insert random number here> months to save the planet

                                Actually, we're already too late. ‘WE’RE TOO LATE’: Democrat Andrew Yang Takes Climate Hysteria To New Level | Daily Wire[^] :-D

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                                His analysis is correct, but the conclusion is completely fucked up. The sea level rises with 1/10th of an inch per year, so no need to panic. I predict people will move by themselves when their feet starts to get wet. We have to adapt for sure, I believe quite a few places would do good to send a few engineers on a study trip to the Netherlands. If nothing else they have Stroopwaffels.

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                                  His analysis is correct, but the conclusion is completely fucked up. The sea level rises with 1/10th of an inch per year, so no need to panic. I predict people will move by themselves when their feet starts to get wet. We have to adapt for sure, I believe quite a few places would do good to send a few engineers on a study trip to the Netherlands. If nothing else they have Stroopwaffels.

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                                  Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                  Stroopwaffels

                                  In the US, we call those Frisbees.

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                                    Quote:

                                    No Christian has ever murdered a gay person

                                    F-ES Sitecore wrote:

                                    For every case you show me of a Christian killing a gay person

                                    Good. You are deluding yourself a bit less. It has happened in the past, and in this current climate it may happen again. I know there was a transsexual killed near where I live lately, and the list of those atrocities is disgustingly growing. Many of them are propelled by religious beliefs, including Christian beliefs. Maybe not your 'version' of Christianity, but Christian non-the-less. Christian history, of which Catholicism is a part, has some atrocities in it just as ugly as Muslim acts. "Let God sort them out." The Crusades. Salem Witch Hunts.

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                                    David O'Neil wrote:

                                    It has happened in the past,

                                    Show me the evidence then.

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                                      You are simply uneducated on the subject. [Christianity and homosexuality - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity\_and\_homosexuality). When I was a kid, I remember homosexuality being in the news because it was being spread from pulpits. It may have been before your time, but that fearmongering by churches, including those you consider 'Christian', is the reason for that law's existence.

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                                      David O'Neil wrote:

                                      Christianity and homosexuality - Wikipedia.

                                      Wow, that Wiki link with "multiple issues" including "The neutrality of this article is disputed" has really swayed my opinion :laugh:

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                                        Le centriste wrote:

                                        They get it from religion.

                                        They also get it from non-religion so your point is now nullified. For example, you try to push "your views" on others even though you don't have a religion. Religion is just a set of beliefs so we all fall under that category. Your statement means nothing other than another attempt to persecute those that are different than you.

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                                        Le centriste
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                                        ZurdoDev wrote:

                                        For example, you try to push "your views" on others even though you don't have a religion

                                        Pushed my views? In what way? That people are free to do what they want with their body?

                                        ZurdoDev wrote:

                                        Religion is just a set of beliefs so we all fall under that category

                                        No, religion is much more than that. Us non-religious people don't go to non-religious temple to pray a non-religion and we don't go from door to door to promote our non-religion. And it is a non-belief, that is it. Don't try to push atheist as a religion, because it is not, no more than baldness is a hair color.

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                                        Your statement means nothing other than another attempt to persecute those that are different than you

                                        Nope. But religion has done that pretty well, they don't need me.

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                                          ZurdoDev wrote:

                                          For example, you try to push "your views" on others even though you don't have a religion

                                          Pushed my views? In what way? That people are free to do what they want with their body?

                                          ZurdoDev wrote:

                                          Religion is just a set of beliefs so we all fall under that category

                                          No, religion is much more than that. Us non-religious people don't go to non-religious temple to pray a non-religion and we don't go from door to door to promote our non-religion. And it is a non-belief, that is it. Don't try to push atheist as a religion, because it is not, no more than baldness is a hair color.

                                          ZurdoDev wrote:

                                          Your statement means nothing other than another attempt to persecute those that are different than you

                                          Nope. But religion has done that pretty well, they don't need me.

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                                          :zzz:

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