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    realJSOP
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    It makes CP self-cleaning, as the vast majority of crap that would otherwise appear elsewhere on the site has a place to be, kinda like the Indian-only forum. I think it's an ill-conceived notion that will blow back into the rest of CP.

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      It makes CP self-cleaning, as the vast majority of crap that would otherwise appear elsewhere on the site has a place to be, kinda like the Indian-only forum. I think it's an ill-conceived notion that will blow back into the rest of CP.

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      Forogar
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      That's an interesting argument. Once the Soapbox is gone the regular lounge is going to get the trolls encroaching gradually more and more. Strict banning procedures and active deleting will be needed. Unless the Soapbox takes a lot of resources - and deleting any conversations more than a three days old (to allow for weekends) might help alleviate that, it should be left in place as a place to gather unwanted trash and trolls. What do you think @chris-maunder?

      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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        It makes CP self-cleaning, as the vast majority of crap that would otherwise appear elsewhere on the site has a place to be, kinda like the Indian-only forum. I think it's an ill-conceived notion that will blow back into the rest of CP.

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        Lost User
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        #realJSOP wrote:

        It makes CP self-cleaning, as the vast majority of crap that would otherwise appear elsewhere on the site has a place to be, kind like the Indian-only forum. I think it's an ill-conceived notion that will blow back into the rest of CP.

        I think the Full-body latex suit needs to come out ofretirement.

        Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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          That's an interesting argument. Once the Soapbox is gone the regular lounge is going to get the trolls encroaching gradually more and more. Strict banning procedures and active deleting will be needed. Unless the Soapbox takes a lot of resources - and deleting any conversations more than a three days old (to allow for weekends) might help alleviate that, it should be left in place as a place to gather unwanted trash and trolls. What do you think @chris-maunder?

          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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          Forogar wrote:

          Strict banning procedures and active deleting will be needed.

          My record will not be broken.

          Forogar wrote:

          What do you think @chrismaunder?

          You misspelt @chris-maunder.

          Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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            Forogar wrote:

            Strict banning procedures and active deleting will be needed.

            My record will not be broken.

            Forogar wrote:

            What do you think @chrismaunder?

            You misspelt @chris-maunder.

            Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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            Forogar
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            Thanks, fixed.

            - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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            • realJSOPR realJSOP

              It makes CP self-cleaning, as the vast majority of crap that would otherwise appear elsewhere on the site has a place to be, kinda like the Indian-only forum. I think it's an ill-conceived notion that will blow back into the rest of CP.

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              DRHuff
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              We could just take over the Delphi forum - not like anybody ever goes there!

              This space for rent.

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                We could just take over the Delphi forum - not like anybody ever goes there!

                This space for rent.

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                That's a brilliant idea. Next time though, send your message to the team in the pre approved encrypted magical text so that the hamsters don't know what we are up to. :)

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                • realJSOPR realJSOP

                  It makes CP self-cleaning, as the vast majority of crap that would otherwise appear elsewhere on the site has a place to be, kinda like the Indian-only forum. I think it's an ill-conceived notion that will blow back into the rest of CP.

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                  TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                  We could send them here: Tosche Station - Professional Profile[^]

                  #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                    That's a brilliant idea. Next time though, send your message to the team in the pre approved encrypted magical text so that the hamsters don't know what we are up to. :)

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                    DRHuff
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                    If you think Delphi means Delphi your encrypted magical text manual must be out of date. Try to keep up! :laugh:

                    This space for rent.

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                    • realJSOPR realJSOP

                      It makes CP self-cleaning, as the vast majority of crap that would otherwise appear elsewhere on the site has a place to be, kinda like the Indian-only forum. I think it's an ill-conceived notion that will blow back into the rest of CP.

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                      How about we get rid of the Soapbox and replace it with the Foil-Hat-Forum ? This way, everyone can be happy!

                      Ravings en masse^

                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                        How about we get rid of the Soapbox and replace it with the Foil-Hat-Forum ? This way, everyone can be happy!

                        Ravings en masse^

                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                        Daniel Pfeffer
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                        Suggested foil-hat-forum rules: 1. Only trolls may post there 2. Trolls may post nowhere else 3. Chris will nominate trolls at his exclusive discretion 4. All decisions of the judges are final. No members of the Code Project staff or their families are eligible to participate. Offer void where prohibited.

                        Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                        • realJSOPR realJSOP

                          It makes CP self-cleaning, as the vast majority of crap that would otherwise appear elsewhere on the site has a place to be, kinda like the Indian-only forum. I think it's an ill-conceived notion that will blow back into the rest of CP.

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                          Majerus
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                          Soapbox 1.0 is a private forum with no links in CP to it. Seems like that would be a good place to contain and isolate problematic discussions.

                          Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” We never have had a president* so completely deserving of scorn and yet so small in the office that it almost seems a waste of time and energy to summon the requisite contempt

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                            It makes CP self-cleaning, as the vast majority of crap that would otherwise appear elsewhere on the site has a place to be, kinda like the Indian-only forum. I think it's an ill-conceived notion that will blow back into the rest of CP.

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                            Daniel Pfeffer
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                            Given that the Soapbox has been here for years, I doubt that Chris is closing it down in a fit of pique. My theory is that because CP is moderated, he has some liability under Canadian law for any inflammatory statements published. I certainly would understand why he wishes to dispose of this liability.

                            Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                              Given that the Soapbox has been here for years, I doubt that Chris is closing it down in a fit of pique. My theory is that because CP is moderated, he has some liability under Canadian law for any inflammatory statements published. I certainly would understand why he wishes to dispose of this liability.

                              Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                              ZurdoDev
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                              Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                              he has some liability under Canadian law for any inflammatory statements published.

                              Move your servers to the US where freedom of speech exists. :doh:

                              Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                Soapbox 1.0 is a private forum with no links in CP to it. Seems like that would be a good place to contain and isolate problematic discussions.

                                Frank Wilhoit: “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” We never have had a president* so completely deserving of scorn and yet so small in the office that it almost seems a waste of time and energy to summon the requisite contempt

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                                ZurdoDev
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                                Majerus wrote:

                                Soapbox 1.0 is a private forum

                                It's being closed as well. You no longer have anywhere to go.

                                Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                  Daniel Pfeffer wrote:

                                  he has some liability under Canadian law for any inflammatory statements published.

                                  Move your servers to the US where freedom of speech exists. :doh:

                                  Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                  realJSOP
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                                  All that would accomplish is the blocking of the domain from canadian users by the evil Canadian big brother overlords.

                                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                    All that would accomplish is the blocking of the domain from canadian users by the evil Canadian big brother overlords.

                                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                    ZurdoDev
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                                    #realJSOP wrote:

                                    blocking of the domain from canadian users

                                    No more Canucks? I can live with that. ;)

                                    Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                      Given that the Soapbox has been here for years, I doubt that Chris is closing it down in a fit of pique. My theory is that because CP is moderated, he has some liability under Canadian law for any inflammatory statements published. I certainly would understand why he wishes to dispose of this liability.

                                      Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                                      realJSOP
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                                      There's no such thing as "hate speech". There's "unpopular" speech, and that kind of speech is protected by the 1st Amendment (in the US, but not in Canada, or anywhere else for that matter). I wouldn't be surprised if what you say is true, though. Chrios should come out and say that though instead of claiming to make CP more on-topic. I'm sure that's a factor, but the REAL reason is probably as you stated.

                                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                      -----
                                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                      -----
                                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                        All that would accomplish is the blocking of the domain from canadian users by the evil Canadian big brother overlords.

                                        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
                                        -----
                                        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
                                        -----
                                        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                        DRHuff
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                                        #realJSOP wrote:

                                        the evil Canadian big brother overlords.

                                        I'd let some people through... :-D

                                        This space for rent.

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                                          #realJSOP wrote:

                                          blocking of the domain from canadian users

                                          No more Canucks? I can live with that. ;)

                                          Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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                                          DRHuff
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                                          I'm not going to miss you either! ;P

                                          This space for rent.

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