Does anyone miss programming in old languages?
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I kinda miss Turbo Pascal... Most fond memory of it was that it was only $30.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Me too ... and I miss Turbo Prolog even more. Of course, everything was simpler those days. "The only easy day was yesterday" as the Navy Seals say.
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I recently got pulled in to help out on a 30+ years old mainframe project written in COBOL. It was a bit of shock to realise how much I remembered, since it had been 30+ years since I last worked with COBOL! I occasionally miss my old FORTRAN days (most recently Fortran 77 rather than FORTRAN IV) but I never have yearned to do COBOL (or even PL/1) again. Nostalgic thoughts?
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
I have always programmed in C++. Except for a stint before it came out when I purchased UCSD Pascal for $100. You got the source code too. Its 16-bit byte codes ran on an interpreter whose idea was later later adopted by Java and Microsoft's reaction to Java, C#. You could debug UCSD Pascal both forwards and backwards, something Visual Studio is still dreaming about doing.
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I kinda miss Turbo Pascal... Most fond memory of it was that it was only $30.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Those were the days... :)
Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
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I spent a lot of my life coding in Z80 assembler, and sometimes - but not often - I do miss it. Being that "close" to the hardware feels ... natural, if you know what I mean.
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Yeah, my first job was on an old IBM Series/1, which ran in this somewhat low-level language called EDL (Event Driven Language). It was kind of assembler-like. Debugging consisted of getting a printout, on the left of which would be the actual compiled code (80A2 as an if-equals, I think). So, you learned a lot of how memory is actually managed by getting that close to the OS. I think that helps understand (or at least be able to theorize) better about what's under the hood when using higher-level languages. I wouldn't say I miss it, Bob. But, it was interesting to peer into the sausage factory, and I think it made me better at thinking about doing things (relatively) efficiently in more modern systems.
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I recently got pulled in to help out on a 30+ years old mainframe project written in COBOL. It was a bit of shock to realise how much I remembered, since it had been 30+ years since I last worked with COBOL! I occasionally miss my old FORTRAN days (most recently Fortran 77 rather than FORTRAN IV) but I never have yearned to do COBOL (or even PL/1) again. Nostalgic thoughts?
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
I used many different languages to some extent (some pretty obscure) in my 50+ year programming career. Of them all I think I liked C most of all. It was a short step up from the assembler to learn and was easy for me to use. Being a control freak I felt it gave me the best product from my time. I found the C lib functions straight forward and manageable. This is just an old fart's opinion. I can get by in just about anything. There is truly nothing under the sun. The language syntax and organization changes but it is all pretty much the same.
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I kinda miss Turbo Pascal... Most fond memory of it was that it was only $30.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013Still keeping an old TP app alive that I offered to help out with 25 years ago! DosBox and no "Opening the file" messages - joy!
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I recently got pulled in to help out on a 30+ years old mainframe project written in COBOL. It was a bit of shock to realise how much I remembered, since it had been 30+ years since I last worked with COBOL! I occasionally miss my old FORTRAN days (most recently Fortran 77 rather than FORTRAN IV) but I never have yearned to do COBOL (or even PL/1) again. Nostalgic thoughts?
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
I remember them, but I don't exactly miss them enough to download a compiler and start writing Cobol or Fortran code. Almost, but not quite, now we have Mathf and C# so who needs the older languages? Well, unless you are called on to do a code conversion or repair old code. I learned with Basic and Pascal. But I will never refer a beginner to those languages these days.
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Turbo Pascal was my first thought as well!
Same here
- Leonardo
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There are the languages I really liked working in at the time: Ada, VAX FORTRAN, VAX/VMS DCL (scripting), LISP, and Intel assembly language using a flat memory model. At the time I developed sufficient fluency in each of these that I could solve any programming problem you like in them, given enough time. Interestingly, I don't feel any nostalgia to go back to programming in any of them. The amenities available now in most languages are so superior it's incredible. I know that Ada, FORTRAN, and LISP all have contemporary versions with modern facilities, but those all seem to have a "me too!" flavor to them. Today my language of choice is C# unless there's substantial bit/byte-fiddling to be done, and then it's C++.
Software Zen:
delete this;I loved the VAX/VMS system. I used Pascal, some C, DCL, FMS, and others. I had a 2 shelf set of manuals from DEC, which if you followed the rules everything would just work. I even developed a primitive pre-object system where I would pass a structure for specific data entry forms to several routines; saved a lot of coding.
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FoxPro for DOS (pre-MS). I wrote a sales lead tracking application (think early CRM) that ran unchanged for well over a decade. It even survived Y2K. ;P
I used FoxPro for DOS at my workplace to create some pretty complicated applications. Once, during an upgrade to our payroll system used for almost 20,000 employees, I wrote an application to compare the master file output from the old version with the new version, looking for differences which would signal compatibility issues. This app helped to eliminate a lot of confusion and busy work by our HR and payroll folks to ferret out those problems. My star shone a little brighter for a while...sigh.
FoxPro fan
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I recently got pulled in to help out on a 30+ years old mainframe project written in COBOL. It was a bit of shock to realise how much I remembered, since it had been 30+ years since I last worked with COBOL! I occasionally miss my old FORTRAN days (most recently Fortran 77 rather than FORTRAN IV) but I never have yearned to do COBOL (or even PL/1) again. Nostalgic thoughts?
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
I programmed in a new language called C# almost twenty years ago when it first came out. I don't miss it though. I still use it nearly every day.
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I Sometimes miss the Univac 1100 Assembler that I spent so many years working on. But most modern languages are so much better in many ways.
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Fortran 77, I took a Basic class (my first programming class) before this and darn near swore off programming, as the spaghettification factor was overwhelming. A math instructor talking me into taking Fortran class and I loved it. Motorola HC11 assembler is another one, my first assembler language. At the time Motorola had what I thought was really good documentation regarding the chips' operation and the instruction set, coded a lot of assembler back then.
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I loved the VAX/VMS system. I used Pascal, some C, DCL, FMS, and others. I had a 2 shelf set of manuals from DEC, which if you followed the rules everything would just work. I even developed a primitive pre-object system where I would pass a structure for specific data entry forms to several routines; saved a lot of coding.
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I learned programming in college by writing programs in Algol-60 on a Univac 1108. My, how time flies!
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I recently got pulled in to help out on a 30+ years old mainframe project written in COBOL. It was a bit of shock to realise how much I remembered, since it had been 30+ years since I last worked with COBOL! I occasionally miss my old FORTRAN days (most recently Fortran 77 rather than FORTRAN IV) but I never have yearned to do COBOL (or even PL/1) again. Nostalgic thoughts?
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
I have a warm spot in my heart for Ada. Think more teams should consider Ada2012 for their next project at least if it's realtime embedded development.
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I recently got pulled in to help out on a 30+ years old mainframe project written in COBOL. It was a bit of shock to realise how much I remembered, since it had been 30+ years since I last worked with COBOL! I occasionally miss my old FORTRAN days (most recently Fortran 77 rather than FORTRAN IV) but I never have yearned to do COBOL (or even PL/1) again. Nostalgic thoughts?
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
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I recently got pulled in to help out on a 30+ years old mainframe project written in COBOL. It was a bit of shock to realise how much I remembered, since it had been 30+ years since I last worked with COBOL! I occasionally miss my old FORTRAN days (most recently Fortran 77 rather than FORTRAN IV) but I never have yearned to do COBOL (or even PL/1) again. Nostalgic thoughts?
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
I have a warm spot in my heart for Ada. Think more teams should consider Ada2012 for their next project at least if it's realtime embedded development.
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Yes, but remember how long it took to write out the coding sheets, get the cards punched, submit them for compilation, only to find you made a simple spelling mistake, or the punch girl mis-read your hieroglyphics.
