win10 woes! schadenfreude or sympathy?
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https://www.nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/forums/game-ready-drivers/13/298682/windows-10-version-1903-and-nvidia-gpu-driver-4253/[^] nvidia windows 10 1903 - Google Search[^]
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Built a new computer with : GIGABYTE B450M DS3H AM4 Motherboard AMD AMD RYZEN 5 2600X WRAITHS CPU (6Core with hyperthreading, 12 cores) IPSG 16GB 2X8GB DDR4 3200 KIT RAM SAMSUNG E 500GB 970EVO NVME M.2 SSD Nvidia GEForce GTX 1660 Sorry, not yelling -- it's copied from my order. :) This computer is soooooo fast! Except... Installed the latest Win10 1903 release. I install the Nvidia drivers and it runs perfectly. Blazing fast running Android Studio, Android Emulator while running Visual Studio at the same time. Except... Every time I reboot (or shutdown and turn on computer next day) Win10 re-installs the graphics drivers it thinks is best and the computer crashes within moments of starting FireFox or Android Studio or whatever. So I install the appropriate graphics drivers again. Everything is fine until windows installs the wrong driver again. Check this laughable BSOD out: https://i.stack.imgur.com/6rGgD.jpg[^] Yes, if you call a support person please provide them with the stop code: KERNEL SECURITY CHECK FAILURE and make sure you yell it loud enough. Here's another BSOD I've seen : https://i.stack.imgur.com/Pf4pl.jpg[^] Those of you who like Win10 will experience sympathy, others will let the schadenfreude rain down. :laugh: FireFox, Android Studio The odd thing is that the generally the first time I boot up each day the machine will crash. Then I reboot and after that everything is fine. How could this be true? The computer cannot tell the difference from one boot-up to another. I don't get it. :~ :confused: FireFox seems to always be the culprit, but Android Emulator and/or Android Studio can generally get the crash too. Crash Dump I've looked over the Crash Dump with WinDb and I see that FireFox is the culprit but not much else. EDIT I downloaded Opera Web Browser and I closed FireFox so I can test for a while. I have Android Studio, Android emulator, streaming the Apple Event livestream in Opera window and posting here all at the same time as a test. I immediately got an error in NVidiaShare.exe which crashed becuase it "couldn't read a file from the m.2 drive." That makes me wonder if I have some kind of disk errors. Oy! New sup
Use DDU to clean the graphics drivers out of the system and install the new version from downloading from nvidia's site. If it persists, then repeat the process, but use the next previous release of the driver. And only install the next latest one when it is released. This has solved graphics driver problems for me in the past. I had an issue lately after the latest drivers or win10 build that the monitors wouldn't wake up, but the system was active in the background, I know it was active as it had youtube open on the desktop and if I hit space on the keyboard i could start and stop the video. The displays would try to come alive as the source message would appear on the screen, but then immediately go back to sleep again. The PC has also BSOD a couple of times lately as well, so there is definitely something flaky with a recent update, not sure which update, but suspect graphics drivers.
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Built a new computer with : GIGABYTE B450M DS3H AM4 Motherboard AMD AMD RYZEN 5 2600X WRAITHS CPU (6Core with hyperthreading, 12 cores) IPSG 16GB 2X8GB DDR4 3200 KIT RAM SAMSUNG E 500GB 970EVO NVME M.2 SSD Nvidia GEForce GTX 1660 Sorry, not yelling -- it's copied from my order. :) This computer is soooooo fast! Except... Installed the latest Win10 1903 release. I install the Nvidia drivers and it runs perfectly. Blazing fast running Android Studio, Android Emulator while running Visual Studio at the same time. Except... Every time I reboot (or shutdown and turn on computer next day) Win10 re-installs the graphics drivers it thinks is best and the computer crashes within moments of starting FireFox or Android Studio or whatever. So I install the appropriate graphics drivers again. Everything is fine until windows installs the wrong driver again. Check this laughable BSOD out: https://i.stack.imgur.com/6rGgD.jpg[^] Yes, if you call a support person please provide them with the stop code: KERNEL SECURITY CHECK FAILURE and make sure you yell it loud enough. Here's another BSOD I've seen : https://i.stack.imgur.com/Pf4pl.jpg[^] Those of you who like Win10 will experience sympathy, others will let the schadenfreude rain down. :laugh: FireFox, Android Studio The odd thing is that the generally the first time I boot up each day the machine will crash. Then I reboot and after that everything is fine. How could this be true? The computer cannot tell the difference from one boot-up to another. I don't get it. :~ :confused: FireFox seems to always be the culprit, but Android Emulator and/or Android Studio can generally get the crash too. Crash Dump I've looked over the Crash Dump with WinDb and I see that FireFox is the culprit but not much else. EDIT I downloaded Opera Web Browser and I closed FireFox so I can test for a while. I have Android Studio, Android emulator, streaming the Apple Event livestream in Opera window and posting here all at the same time as a test. I immediately got an error in NVidiaShare.exe which crashed becuase it "couldn't read a file from the m.2 drive." That makes me wonder if I have some kind of disk errors. Oy! New sup
An app cant BSOD a system, only a driver. Well, you could remove the drivers Windows thinks is best form the system, but this is just plain crazy, once the hardware is set up it shouldnt be 're found' (ie, it isnt new and a PnP/Find New Hardware event triggered), unless there is something weird about your hardware. I guess you googled it? Others must have the same issue.
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I had similar issues with mine about a month ago. Seems like the GC drivers are messing up with the windows file system. sfc scannow does not finish after the crash indicating some files are corrupted. Sometimes the BSOD message indicated insufficient power. Which power supply are you using? The 1660 is power hungry piece of hardware.
raddevus wrote:
Why, Win10!?! Why do you do this to us!?! :mad:
It is not windows, it is the GC drivers. My windows is stable now after I reinstall the GC drivers.
I have a 650W power supply : 976076/ CORSAIR CXM 650W 80+B SM PSU It's actually a decent power supply and I don't really have anything else that consumes much power in the PC beyond the basics (USB ports etc). I do have a wifi card : 947846/ TPLINK AC1300 WRLS DB PCIE ADPTR This power supply _should_ be able to handle it, but thanks for the input. I am considering everything.
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Use DDU to clean the graphics drivers out of the system and install the new version from downloading from nvidia's site. If it persists, then repeat the process, but use the next previous release of the driver. And only install the next latest one when it is released. This has solved graphics driver problems for me in the past. I had an issue lately after the latest drivers or win10 build that the monitors wouldn't wake up, but the system was active in the background, I know it was active as it had youtube open on the desktop and if I hit space on the keyboard i could start and stop the video. The displays would try to come alive as the source message would appear on the screen, but then immediately go back to sleep again. The PC has also BSOD a couple of times lately as well, so there is definitely something flaky with a recent update, not sure which update, but suspect graphics drivers.
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An app cant BSOD a system, only a driver. Well, you could remove the drivers Windows thinks is best form the system, but this is just plain crazy, once the hardware is set up it shouldnt be 're found' (ie, it isnt new and a PnP/Find New Hardware event triggered), unless there is something weird about your hardware. I guess you googled it? Others must have the same issue.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
An app cant BSOD a system, only a driver.
Yeah, that makes sense to me. Apps are just crashing a lot.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
I guess you googled it? Others must have the same issue.
I did google it and it seems that others are having the same issues. It's just difficult to tell if this is the core issue, because when I look at the driver version under Device Management it always looks like the same version even though the computer seems to work fine only if after booting up I install the official drivers again. The machine ran for hours without any incident until I went to shut down and then it BSOD'ed again. Ugh! I think I'm going to buy a cheapy graphics card and put it in and see how that does.
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
An app cant BSOD a system, only a driver.
Yeah, that makes sense to me. Apps are just crashing a lot.
Munchies_Matt wrote:
I guess you googled it? Others must have the same issue.
I did google it and it seems that others are having the same issues. It's just difficult to tell if this is the core issue, because when I look at the driver version under Device Management it always looks like the same version even though the computer seems to work fine only if after booting up I install the official drivers again. The machine ran for hours without any incident until I went to shut down and then it BSOD'ed again. Ugh! I think I'm going to buy a cheapy graphics card and put it in and see how that does.
Nvidia are famous for writing dodgy drivers.
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Thanks for these. There is some great info in there. I will read more closely and see what I find. :thumbsup:
Good luck! :rose::rose:
#SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun
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Nvidia are famous for writing dodgy drivers.
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Munchies_Matt wrote:
Nvidia are famous for writing dodgy drivers.
Interesting. I thought they were one of the better ones. :sigh:
Been a while but there windows 7 driver had a massive memory leak.
