Self employed question about multiple contracts
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Okay, after 'retiring',I started doing the odd 1099 contract on the side. It has done a fairly good job of giving me enough slush to take a few trips, buy some nice things (new house!), etc. However (always have one of those, right?) I am now in a position of taking on two contracts, both of which want 8 hours a day. Both are interesting and in areas I have not done much in (one in simulation/animation and the other is e-finance). Any thoughts or experiences about juggling two 8 hour/day contracts? Pick one Negotiate 4 hours per with longer delivery
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, navigate a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects! - Lazarus Long
I've been in the same position a few times. Unless the parties want to "share" you may be stuck. I've managed to arrange "sharing" twice - both times worked out OK. You didn't mention how long these contracts run - three months, year, forever? That makes a difference. Try to negotiate part time with both. If not possible pick one and let the other go. You may find the one you let go comes back around if you finish the first quickly enough.
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change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, navigate a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly
I've done all of those except butchering the hog, writing the sonnet and dying gallantly (except in a game, does that count?). I am not, to the best of my knowledge, an insect.
- I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.
I believe this is a quote from a "Lazarus Long" book by Robert Heinlein. Is this correct?
I am a big SF fan too!
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Okay, after 'retiring',I started doing the odd 1099 contract on the side. It has done a fairly good job of giving me enough slush to take a few trips, buy some nice things (new house!), etc. However (always have one of those, right?) I am now in a position of taking on two contracts, both of which want 8 hours a day. Both are interesting and in areas I have not done much in (one in simulation/animation and the other is e-finance). Any thoughts or experiences about juggling two 8 hour/day contracts? Pick one Negotiate 4 hours per with longer delivery
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, navigate a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects! - Lazarus Long
If the money is good, try to get them to agree to 3 - 10 hour days per week each. M-W at one and TH - Sat with the other. You might push it to 12 hour days. I'd check with your spouse/significant other first and get their approval. This doesn't sound like much of a "retirement" to me.
I'm going to work till I drop.
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Over the past 25 years of consulting I've had many opportunities to do exactly this, take on multiple contracts at the same time. Unless you can dovetail the projects together you will end up working very long days and more than 5 days a week. One big thing that stands out as a red flag is you comment that you didn't have experience in either of the two fields. That means you may have a steep learning curve and spending a lot more time just getting up to speed on the new technology than you think. The things you don't know can really hurt you. Also on projects like that most people tend to underestimate the effort. My advise, pick the one that is the most attractive (scope or money) and then try to delay the second one for several months while you get the first one moving. Once the first project is well underway it's easier to pick up a second project. Obviously this assumes that you spend very little time at the clients location to do the task. Good luck, but two consulting jobs does not sound like "retirement".
TWMitchell wrote:
pick the one that is the most attractive (scope or money) and then try to delay the second one for several months while you get the first one moving. Once the first project is well underway it's easier to pick up a second project.
I like this idea. Or, take both but just manage an overseas developer on one. Assuming you want to get your hands dirty on one of them. ;)
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If the money is good, try to get them to agree to 3 - 10 hour days per week each. M-W at one and TH - Sat with the other. You might push it to 12 hour days. I'd check with your spouse/significant other first and get their approval. This doesn't sound like much of a "retirement" to me.
I'm going to work till I drop.
Bad idea, even if you're not in "retirement". That way lies burnout, and dissatisfied customers. Building a reputation for good work take years, but it can be destroyed by one substandard project.
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.
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Okay, after 'retiring',I started doing the odd 1099 contract on the side. It has done a fairly good job of giving me enough slush to take a few trips, buy some nice things (new house!), etc. However (always have one of those, right?) I am now in a position of taking on two contracts, both of which want 8 hours a day. Both are interesting and in areas I have not done much in (one in simulation/animation and the other is e-finance). Any thoughts or experiences about juggling two 8 hour/day contracts? Pick one Negotiate 4 hours per with longer delivery
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, navigate a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects! - Lazarus Long
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I believe this is a quote from a "Lazarus Long" book by Robert Heinlein. Is this correct?
I am a big SF fan too!
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I believe this is a quote from a "Lazarus Long" book by Robert Heinlein. Is this correct?
I am a big SF fan too!
Time Enough For Love, which contained excerpts from the Notebooks of Lazarus Long.
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Okay, after 'retiring',I started doing the odd 1099 contract on the side. It has done a fairly good job of giving me enough slush to take a few trips, buy some nice things (new house!), etc. However (always have one of those, right?) I am now in a position of taking on two contracts, both of which want 8 hours a day. Both are interesting and in areas I have not done much in (one in simulation/animation and the other is e-finance). Any thoughts or experiences about juggling two 8 hour/day contracts? Pick one Negotiate 4 hours per with longer delivery
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, navigate a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects! - Lazarus Long
stoneyowl2 wrote:
retiring
stoneyowl2 wrote:
taking on two contracts, both of which want 8 hours a day
Methinks thou dost not understand the word 'retiring' :-D .
Software Zen:
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Okay, after 'retiring',I started doing the odd 1099 contract on the side. It has done a fairly good job of giving me enough slush to take a few trips, buy some nice things (new house!), etc. However (always have one of those, right?) I am now in a position of taking on two contracts, both of which want 8 hours a day. Both are interesting and in areas I have not done much in (one in simulation/animation and the other is e-finance). Any thoughts or experiences about juggling two 8 hour/day contracts? Pick one Negotiate 4 hours per with longer delivery
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, navigate a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects! - Lazarus Long
If they dictate the time and manner you work, you are not a contractor according to the IRS. If they want you full time, they must hire you as an employee. In fact, one of the tests the IRS has for an independent consultant is if you work on multiple contracts. You could offer a full 8 hours to each contract, but skip some days. This may be a better solution than 4hrs each as you can concentrate on one project for the day and avoid any travel time that might be needed between the two projects.
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Okay, after 'retiring',I started doing the odd 1099 contract on the side. It has done a fairly good job of giving me enough slush to take a few trips, buy some nice things (new house!), etc. However (always have one of those, right?) I am now in a position of taking on two contracts, both of which want 8 hours a day. Both are interesting and in areas I have not done much in (one in simulation/animation and the other is e-finance). Any thoughts or experiences about juggling two 8 hour/day contracts? Pick one Negotiate 4 hours per with longer delivery
A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, navigate a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects! - Lazarus Long
Or work 16 hour days... :((
Steve Naidamast Sr. Software Engineer Black Falcon Software, Inc. blackfalconsoftware@outlook.com
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Well writing a sonnet shouldn't be too difficult to tick of the list... so that only leaves dying gallantly while butchering a hog. Personally I only ever eat meat where the butcher also died in the process. It makes me feel happy knowing there is a certain balance being preserved.