The need for speed
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Cp-Coder wrote:
One for my systems drive, one for my data drive and for the drive where I store my systems images, PLEASE!
I'll take the fastest drive I can get for the OS, but other things really don't matter. My main data store is a NAS, and my network connection is the bottleneck, not the set of 8TB spinning drives I have it running. It's not like MP3s sound better if the bits are read faster. Even a slow spinning drive can keep up with realtime playback (even full HD video). A few years ago, when SSDs were still at a premium, I had to talk a neighbor out of buying a bunch of SSDs just to host his multi-TB music collection. The OS, apps, some data...it makes sense...but beyond that, it's easy to get into overkill territory.
You may be overlooking one consideration. The best M.2 SSDs now cost the same as SATA SSDs of the same size and soon will be cheaper. Why buy an old style SSD when you can get a version that is 6 times faster for the same price? [Edit] Of course you need a main board with a dedicated NVMe slot for every M.2 drive. You cannot fit them to any computer.
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I may be a speed freak. Not when I'm driving, I am that idiot in front of you who insists on driving at the speed limit, no matter how closely you tailgate him. But I love fast computers, since fiddling with computers is my only hobby. About a year ago my previous desktop was getting old (7 years) and I got a new one from Dell. The new one came with a NVMe slot for a M.2 SSD system drive. I added a regular SATA SSD for an internal data drive. I noticed that the machine was very fast, but yesterday for the first time I ran benchmark software to compare the speed of both SSDs. The test result blew me away. Sequential read speed were 560 MB/s for the SATA SSD, but 3539 MB/s for the M.2 SSD! The M.2 was more than 6 times faster than the regular SATA SSD. Wow! OK Mr Dell, for my next desktop I want a machine with three NVMe M.2 slots. One for my systems drive, one for my data drive and for the drive where I store my systems images, PLEASE!
Cp-Coder wrote:
I may be a speed freak. Not when I'm driving, I am that idiot in front of you who insists on driving at the speed limit
That's just plain un-American...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Cp-Coder wrote:
I may be a speed freak. Not when I'm driving, I am that idiot in front of you who insists on driving at the speed limit
That's just plain un-American...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
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That's just plain un-American...
Now how do I react to that? Thank you or scold you? :laugh:
What do you drive? I can't imagine that it would be anything with more than 4 cylinders - which is also un-American (4-cylinder cars, that is).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
What do you drive? I can't imagine that it would be anything with more than 4 cylinders - which is also un-American (4-cylinder cars, that is).
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Then it's no wonder you only do the speed limit.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Then it's no wonder you only do the speed limit.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Ravi Bhavnani wrote:
I use it exclusively for development and it screams!
...in pain? What are you doing to that poor system? :~
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If in your view one has to routinely break the law to be a true American, then by all means classify me as "un-American." But that is only your view!
Well, I'm being (what I thought was obviously) sarcastic, and you're busy being a pedantic little bitch. But hey, that's just my view...
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
Then it's no wonder you only do the speed limit.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
#realJSOP wrote:
Then it's no wonder you only do the speed limit.
That's probably what he meant. On a good day, going downhill, with the wind at his back, he can reach the speed limit...
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I may be a speed freak. Not when I'm driving, I am that idiot in front of you who insists on driving at the speed limit, no matter how closely you tailgate him. But I love fast computers, since fiddling with computers is my only hobby. About a year ago my previous desktop was getting old (7 years) and I got a new one from Dell. The new one came with a NVMe slot for a M.2 SSD system drive. I added a regular SATA SSD for an internal data drive. I noticed that the machine was very fast, but yesterday for the first time I ran benchmark software to compare the speed of both SSDs. The test result blew me away. Sequential read speed were 560 MB/s for the SATA SSD, but 3539 MB/s for the M.2 SSD! The M.2 was more than 6 times faster than the regular SATA SSD. Wow! OK Mr Dell, for my next desktop I want a machine with three NVMe M.2 slots. One for my systems drive, one for my data drive and for the drive where I store my systems images, PLEASE!
As long as you are not a left lane hogger, you should drive at the speed you are comfortable.
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As long as you are not a left lane hogger, you should drive at the speed you are comfortable.
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I may be a speed freak. Not when I'm driving, I am that idiot in front of you who insists on driving at the speed limit, no matter how closely you tailgate him. But I love fast computers, since fiddling with computers is my only hobby. About a year ago my previous desktop was getting old (7 years) and I got a new one from Dell. The new one came with a NVMe slot for a M.2 SSD system drive. I added a regular SATA SSD for an internal data drive. I noticed that the machine was very fast, but yesterday for the first time I ran benchmark software to compare the speed of both SSDs. The test result blew me away. Sequential read speed were 560 MB/s for the SATA SSD, but 3539 MB/s for the M.2 SSD! The M.2 was more than 6 times faster than the regular SATA SSD. Wow! OK Mr Dell, for my next desktop I want a machine with three NVMe M.2 slots. One for my systems drive, one for my data drive and for the drive where I store my systems images, PLEASE!
My Thinkpad has two NVMe slots - one for system, one for data...
Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p
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I may be a speed freak. Not when I'm driving, I am that idiot in front of you who insists on driving at the speed limit, no matter how closely you tailgate him. But I love fast computers, since fiddling with computers is my only hobby. About a year ago my previous desktop was getting old (7 years) and I got a new one from Dell. The new one came with a NVMe slot for a M.2 SSD system drive. I added a regular SATA SSD for an internal data drive. I noticed that the machine was very fast, but yesterday for the first time I ran benchmark software to compare the speed of both SSDs. The test result blew me away. Sequential read speed were 560 MB/s for the SATA SSD, but 3539 MB/s for the M.2 SSD! The M.2 was more than 6 times faster than the regular SATA SSD. Wow! OK Mr Dell, for my next desktop I want a machine with three NVMe M.2 slots. One for my systems drive, one for my data drive and for the drive where I store my systems images, PLEASE!
Cp-Coder wrote:
I may be a speed freak. Not when I'm driving, I am that idiot in front of you who insists on driving at the speed limit, no matter how closely you tailgate him.
It's ok to drive the speed limit. Presumably, you know your own and your vehicle's limitations. Just do it in the right-hand lane, unless you're actually passing someone or turning very soon. (In most of the world. I assume the left-hand lane is the slow lane in GBR etc).
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My Thinkpad has two NVMe slots - one for system, one for data...
Java, Basic, who cares - it's all a bunch of tree-hugging hippy cr*p
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Cp-Coder wrote:
I may be a speed freak. Not when I'm driving, I am that idiot in front of you who insists on driving at the speed limit, no matter how closely you tailgate him.
It's ok to drive the speed limit. Presumably, you know your own and your vehicle's limitations. Just do it in the right-hand lane, unless you're actually passing someone or turning very soon. (In most of the world. I assume the left-hand lane is the slow lane in GBR etc).
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with the wind at his back
The spinnaker. Don't forget the spinnaker. I have to deploy the spinnaker to reach the speed limit. :laugh:
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I may be a speed freak. Not when I'm driving, I am that idiot in front of you who insists on driving at the speed limit, no matter how closely you tailgate him. But I love fast computers, since fiddling with computers is my only hobby. About a year ago my previous desktop was getting old (7 years) and I got a new one from Dell. The new one came with a NVMe slot for a M.2 SSD system drive. I added a regular SATA SSD for an internal data drive. I noticed that the machine was very fast, but yesterday for the first time I ran benchmark software to compare the speed of both SSDs. The test result blew me away. Sequential read speed were 560 MB/s for the SATA SSD, but 3539 MB/s for the M.2 SSD! The M.2 was more than 6 times faster than the regular SATA SSD. Wow! OK Mr Dell, for my next desktop I want a machine with three NVMe M.2 slots. One for my systems drive, one for my data drive and for the drive where I store my systems images, PLEASE!
Pretty sure you can run NVMe drives off a spare PCIe slot: nvme pcie card at DuckDuckGo[^] What I'm waiting for is better RAID support. Also, speeding on public roads is for impatient people who can't plan ahead. The real fun is had accelerating, decelerating, and pulling lateral Gs (corners). All of which can be done safely, legally, and with any number of cylinders. ;P
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Pretty sure you can run NVMe drives off a spare PCIe slot: nvme pcie card at DuckDuckGo[^] What I'm waiting for is better RAID support. Also, speeding on public roads is for impatient people who can't plan ahead. The real fun is had accelerating, decelerating, and pulling lateral Gs (corners). All of which can be done safely, legally, and with any number of cylinders. ;P
Very interesting, but reading the customer reviews, this is a 4X PCIe unit, not 16X. Apparently this means you can only get about half the speed out of fast M.2 drives. (I must confess I don't understand PCI specs that well.) If my conclusions are correct, a M.2 drive on this board will still be about 3 times faster than a SATA SSD, but you won't get the blistering 6X speeds of units like the Samsung 970 M.2 series. Pity! Anyone who understands PCIe specs better, please feel free to chip in. :)
