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  • K Kevin Marois

    So, after my last post, I still need some source control. With MS saying not to use VSTS, and I DON'T WANT GIT, what are my options?

    If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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    Lost User
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    List of version-control software - Wikipedia[^]

    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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    • K Kevin Marois

      So, after my last post, I still need some source control. With MS saying not to use VSTS, and I DON'T WANT GIT, what are my options?

      If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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      Joan M
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      Why don't you want GIT?

      www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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      • N Nelek

        SVN?

        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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        Kevin Marois
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        Hosted where?

        If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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          Hosted where?

          If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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          Nelek
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          Own computer acting as server?

          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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          • K Kevin Marois

            So, after my last post, I still need some source control. With MS saying not to use VSTS, and I DON'T WANT GIT, what are my options?

            If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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            M Badger
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            Mercurial It's a few years old but try this : Choosing a Version Control System - A Beginners Tour of the Options[^] As far as I could tell Mercurial did everything Git did but a million times easier. Then everyone went with Git. M

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            • K Kevin Marois

              So, after my last post, I still need some source control. With MS saying not to use VSTS, and I DON'T WANT GIT, what are my options?

              If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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              Maximilien
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              learn GIT, it's a PITA, but it works.

              I'd rather be phishing!

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                Own computer acting as server?

                M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                Lost User
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                Yep :thumbsup:

                It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question

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                  learn GIT, it's a PITA, but it works.

                  I'd rather be phishing!

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                  Lost User
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                  That's the argument that makes bad products the leaders in their branche.

                  Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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                  • K Kevin Marois

                    So, after my last post, I still need some source control. With MS saying not to use VSTS, and I DON'T WANT GIT, what are my options?

                    If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                    RickZeeland
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                    See overview here: best-version-control-systems[^]

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                    • M Maximilien

                      learn GIT, it's a PITA, but it works.

                      I'd rather be phishing!

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                      I have a solution with some projects in the same base folder, and other projects that are shared in different locations. When I right-click the solution and choose "Add To Source Control", a Git message pops up:

                      Source Control - Git

                      The current solution has projects that are located outside the solution folder. These projects will not be source controlled in the Git repository. To add all the projects to a single Git repository please consolidate all projects under a single folder.

                      This doesn't even make sense. I've heard too many horror stories about Git. This is one of them. See also [Git Catastrophes and Tips to Avoid Them | @RisingStack](https://blog.risingstack.com/git-catastrophes-and-tips-to-avoid-them/)

                      If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                        Own computer acting as server?

                        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                        Kevin Marois
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                        I actually have a server, and I've hosted SVN on it, but having the source in a repo in the same room as my dev PC doesn't keep me from losing the code if my house burns down. I could of course back up the SVN repo, but that's what cloud based systems are for. I guess I could set up backup of the repos to some cloud storage, but I'm looking for easy.

                        If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                          Why don't you want GIT?

                          www.robotecnik.com[^] - robots, CNC and PLC programming

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                          Kevin Marois
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                          It sucks. [Git Catastrophes and Tips to Avoid Them | @RisingStack](https://blog.risingstack.com/git-catastrophes-and-tips-to-avoid-them/)

                          If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                            I actually have a server, and I've hosted SVN on it, but having the source in a repo in the same room as my dev PC doesn't keep me from losing the code if my house burns down. I could of course back up the SVN repo, but that's what cloud based systems are for. I guess I could set up backup of the repos to some cloud storage, but I'm looking for easy.

                            If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                            OriginalGriff
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                            You shouldn't consider source control as a backup system - separate the concerns and implement a planned backup strategy, by all means in conjunction with source control. They really aren't there for the same things, and you sound like you need disaster recovery rather than source control. Backup to the cloud, or onto physical media which you rotate into a mates house (and perhaps rotate his into yours) instead.

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                            • K Kevin Marois

                              So, after my last post, I still need some source control. With MS saying not to use VSTS, and I DON'T WANT GIT, what are my options?

                              If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                              Ravi Bhavnani
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                              Kevin Marois wrote:

                              With MS saying not to use VSTS, and I DON'T WANT GIT, what are my options?

                              I continue to use TFVC hosted at Microsoft.  I'm allergic to Git (which is what I use at work). /ravi

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                                You shouldn't consider source control as a backup system - separate the concerns and implement a planned backup strategy, by all means in conjunction with source control. They really aren't there for the same things, and you sound like you need disaster recovery rather than source control. Backup to the cloud, or onto physical media which you rotate into a mates house (and perhaps rotate his into yours) instead.

                                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                Kevin Marois
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                                I never said source control was backup. I said doing source control on a server next to my Dev PC doesn't make sense in case the house burns down

                                If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                                  Kevin Marois wrote:

                                  With MS saying not to use VSTS, and I DON'T WANT GIT, what are my options?

                                  I continue to use TFVC hosted at Microsoft.  I'm allergic to Git (which is what I use at work). /ravi

                                  My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                                  Kevin Marois
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                                  Can you add new projects? My VS2017 won't let me use anything but Git

                                  If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                                    Can you add new projects? My VS2017 won't let me use anything but Git

                                    If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                                    Ravi Bhavnani
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                                    Here's what I do:

                                    1. Create the project in the web interface (and select TFVC as the version control system).
                                    2. Create your solution using VStudio but don't "Add to source control".
                                    3. In VStudio, use Source Control Explorer to add your solution folder to the TFVC project.
                                    4. In VStudio, do File | Source Control | Advanced | Change Source Control and set the solution's source control bindings to the TFVC project.

                                    After doing this, I work in VStudio as usual and check out and check in the solution's files normally. /ravi

                                    My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                                    • K Kevin Marois

                                      I have a solution with some projects in the same base folder, and other projects that are shared in different locations. When I right-click the solution and choose "Add To Source Control", a Git message pops up:

                                      Source Control - Git

                                      The current solution has projects that are located outside the solution folder. These projects will not be source controlled in the Git repository. To add all the projects to a single Git repository please consolidate all projects under a single folder.

                                      This doesn't even make sense. I've heard too many horror stories about Git. This is one of them. See also [Git Catastrophes and Tips to Avoid Them | @RisingStack](https://blog.risingstack.com/git-catastrophes-and-tips-to-avoid-them/)

                                      If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                                      Maximilien
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                                      There are many horror stories with GIT and there are many more good stories with GIT. see also [Oh Shit, Git!?!](https://ohshitgit.com/) You know we use it, we're 10 developers, we all have multiple branches running in parallel, we have many version tags. We have a simple workflow In 4,5 years, I think we had one major issue (no data loss), I think it was because we busted the 1 gig repository size and needed to move files to the LFS system and rebuild the history. From what I can see, your problem seems to be related to the GIT in Visual Studio; I've seen some solution on StackOverflow; maybe not exactly like your situation, but it should be a good way to start looking at it. Maybe you could try an external GIT tool (tortoiseGIT, Kraken.... ) and see how it goes. Anyway, good luck:rose:.

                                      I'd rather be phishing!

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                                      • K Kevin Marois

                                        So, after my last post, I still need some source control. With MS saying not to use VSTS, and I DON'T WANT GIT, what are my options?

                                        If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                                        Ron Anders
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                                        I like Visual SVN. Free and works a treat. My SVN repositories are on my own Windows server down "at the shop" because I'm a control enthusiast.

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                                        • K Kevin Marois

                                          So, after my last post, I still need some source control. With MS saying not to use VSTS, and I DON'T WANT GIT, what are my options?

                                          If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.

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                                          Mike Hankey
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                                          I send SVN, i've been using it for many years. I've started to use GIT and can't decide if I like it or not. Still use SVN as backup though!

                                          They call me different but the truth is they're all the same! JaxCoder.com

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