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    Super Lloyd
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    I watch a lot of youtube video. And, obviously, the youtuber ask us to subscribe, support them on patreon, sponsor some product, etc... Only fair they try to make a living, hey! Plus, I do enjoy all these entertainment! Thing is, I never went on patreon, never bought any t-shirt or other thing, etc.. and when I think to all the video I watched it would be quite costly to do that on every video as well... But I do feel a bit guilty though.. they do deserve something for ongoing their entertainment service after all... I am just freeloading here! Nothing more to say from me here.. but I wonder if some people here are on patreon or bought youtuber t-shirt or have some thoughts on that topic?!

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      I watch a lot of youtube video. And, obviously, the youtuber ask us to subscribe, support them on patreon, sponsor some product, etc... Only fair they try to make a living, hey! Plus, I do enjoy all these entertainment! Thing is, I never went on patreon, never bought any t-shirt or other thing, etc.. and when I think to all the video I watched it would be quite costly to do that on every video as well... But I do feel a bit guilty though.. they do deserve something for ongoing their entertainment service after all... I am just freeloading here! Nothing more to say from me here.. but I wonder if some people here are on patreon or bought youtuber t-shirt or have some thoughts on that topic?!

      A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!

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      Lost User
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      Super Lloyd wrote:

      bu I wonder if some people here are on patreon or bough t youtuber tshirt or have some thought on that topic?!

      Never. I got the T-shirt that says I beat the swordmaster of Melee Island though. I usually skip the begging-part of the video's as it can't be blocked (yet) :thumbsup:

      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.

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        I watch a lot of youtube video. And, obviously, the youtuber ask us to subscribe, support them on patreon, sponsor some product, etc... Only fair they try to make a living, hey! Plus, I do enjoy all these entertainment! Thing is, I never went on patreon, never bought any t-shirt or other thing, etc.. and when I think to all the video I watched it would be quite costly to do that on every video as well... But I do feel a bit guilty though.. they do deserve something for ongoing their entertainment service after all... I am just freeloading here! Nothing more to say from me here.. but I wonder if some people here are on patreon or bought youtuber t-shirt or have some thoughts on that topic?!

        A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!

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        jgakenhe
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        I have bought one t-shirt and still wear it. I've also made donations of $5, $10, and $30 USD to different vloggers over the years and did a 1 month Patreon for $5. I did this to support their work as I felt they had gone above and beyond. The funny thing is I got thanked for the contribution for the $5 and $10 donation, but not the $30. And of those 3 contributions, only the $10 guy still makes videos today for YouTube. The $30 guy only makes videos for his private website. And lastly, the Patreon guy turned into a bitter troll; so I quit his Patreon and unsubscribed from his YouTube channel. I've heard they make between $1 and $3 per 1000 views; so they do make a little cash if they're monetized.

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        • S Super Lloyd

          I watch a lot of youtube video. And, obviously, the youtuber ask us to subscribe, support them on patreon, sponsor some product, etc... Only fair they try to make a living, hey! Plus, I do enjoy all these entertainment! Thing is, I never went on patreon, never bought any t-shirt or other thing, etc.. and when I think to all the video I watched it would be quite costly to do that on every video as well... But I do feel a bit guilty though.. they do deserve something for ongoing their entertainment service after all... I am just freeloading here! Nothing more to say from me here.. but I wonder if some people here are on patreon or bought youtuber t-shirt or have some thoughts on that topic?!

          A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!

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          I'd like to support them, as I get their content for free, but for normal people in RSA, we simply don't have the surplus cash for it. I hope one day we will. That said, I think a better long term solution would be to not pay them so they all go on strike/abandon Youtube and Youtube is forced to give more to the people who literally create content for them.

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            I watch a lot of youtube video. And, obviously, the youtuber ask us to subscribe, support them on patreon, sponsor some product, etc... Only fair they try to make a living, hey! Plus, I do enjoy all these entertainment! Thing is, I never went on patreon, never bought any t-shirt or other thing, etc.. and when I think to all the video I watched it would be quite costly to do that on every video as well... But I do feel a bit guilty though.. they do deserve something for ongoing their entertainment service after all... I am just freeloading here! Nothing more to say from me here.. but I wonder if some people here are on patreon or bought youtuber t-shirt or have some thoughts on that topic?!

            A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!

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            Nelek
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            Our clicks give them money too... Why should we buy more?

            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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              Our clicks give them money too... Why should we buy more?

              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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              Super Lloyd
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              Youtube is a bit of an ass with that.. many channel had their advertising money cancelled or even worse, stolen due to spurious copyright claim...

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                I watch a lot of youtube video. And, obviously, the youtuber ask us to subscribe, support them on patreon, sponsor some product, etc... Only fair they try to make a living, hey! Plus, I do enjoy all these entertainment! Thing is, I never went on patreon, never bought any t-shirt or other thing, etc.. and when I think to all the video I watched it would be quite costly to do that on every video as well... But I do feel a bit guilty though.. they do deserve something for ongoing their entertainment service after all... I am just freeloading here! Nothing more to say from me here.. but I wonder if some people here are on patreon or bought youtuber t-shirt or have some thoughts on that topic?!

                A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!

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                dandy72
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                Super Lloyd wrote:

                I am just freeloading here!

                What would you call what YouTube is doing?

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                  Super Lloyd wrote:

                  I am just freeloading here!

                  What would you call what YouTube is doing?

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                  Super Lloyd
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                  well... good question... hahah though it does offer those "content creator" an expression medium with a wide reach... but when it cancel the monetisation or even take it away.. at the very least it's unethical...

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                    well... good question... hahah though it does offer those "content creator" an expression medium with a wide reach... but when it cancel the monetisation or even take it away.. at the very least it's unethical...

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                    dandy72
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                    Super Lloyd wrote:

                    though it does offer those "content creator" an expression medium with a wide reach...

                    How does Facebook compare with that? And I would use "content creator" loosely in both instances (YT/FB)...but I see you already did put that term in quotes. :-)

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                      I watch a lot of youtube video. And, obviously, the youtuber ask us to subscribe, support them on patreon, sponsor some product, etc... Only fair they try to make a living, hey! Plus, I do enjoy all these entertainment! Thing is, I never went on patreon, never bought any t-shirt or other thing, etc.. and when I think to all the video I watched it would be quite costly to do that on every video as well... But I do feel a bit guilty though.. they do deserve something for ongoing their entertainment service after all... I am just freeloading here! Nothing more to say from me here.. but I wonder if some people here are on patreon or bought youtuber t-shirt or have some thoughts on that topic?!

                      A new .NET Serializer All in one Menu-Ribbon Bar Taking over the world since 1371!

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                      Stepan Hakobyan
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                      I sponsor two creators on Patreon, and feel good about it. Right now it is only $11 a month, and this way I can choose how I sponsor. For me it's better then Netflix subscription.

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                        I sponsor two creators on Patreon, and feel good about it. Right now it is only $11 a month, and this way I can choose how I sponsor. For me it's better then Netflix subscription.

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                        Jaroslav Mitrovic
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                        Hi. I compare the "state" of YT with the Music-Production in the Ninties. The "democtratization" of Selling CDs and "cheap productions", lead to a oversaturation and the disruption of the Market. The same is Happening to YT. For me, the most annoying Part, it is all about "begging" for Money... If the Channel is BIG, it is only selling Stuff. If it is too small, it is "grinding" for any Penny, Nickle or how the smallest Coin in Your area is called... And so Parteon comes too the rescue... Wait a moment... it is just too grind somewhere else... hmmmm... So the similarity to the Music-Producer and the "Content-Creator", ist there. Only the "hyped" and "pushed" can earn Money, all the rest is investing, just to keep it running. And here is what YT was "giving" away, free Money for "the Creative" ones. "But now, the free Lunch is over..." You can see it on the YT, how Creators went to "extrimism" too stay in the Business. Likes are bought, shady secondary Markets opened up... For me Patreon is more a secondary Market for YT. YT, as a Platform, is well established, now all the little ones can ask for Money, but keep it going is another Story. BTW in Germany there is a Profession named "Content-Creator/Mediengestalter", who is capable to use all sorts of Industrial Application to manipulate "Pixels" and such... I like to call them "Pixel-Schubser". Translates to "Pixel-Pusher". I saw it in real live... It was really hard to Push a Red Pixel, one by one to the right... I can´t do this Work, my bad Spine... It is too hard... :~ c.u. @all Next Year :-D

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