Aliens could be living among us on Earth
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#realJSOP wrote:
I say prove it with tangible and irrefutable evidence
Which is why I think you are a figment of my imagination. You are not real unless you can prove it to me. ;)
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Aliens definitely exist and they could be living among us on Earth, says astronaut Helen Sharman[^] [CNN] /ravi
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As per US Immigration procedure, any non-US citizen entering the US is an Alien. This means that all non-US citizens are aliens, which is more than 90 percent of the world population.
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Aliens definitely exist and they could be living among us on Earth, says astronaut Helen Sharman[^] [CNN] /ravi
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How do you know for sure that we (humans) didn't come from another planet? Maybe some biological substance was attached to the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs and we evolved from that? Same applies to any of the species on earth really, how do we know this is their origin planet? I think humans are so fascinated by the thought of aliens visiting that they assume it will/would happen around modern times (and not possible it already happened millions of years ago).
musefan wrote:
How do you know for sure that we (humans) didn't come from another planet? Maybe some biological substance was attached to the asteroid that killed the dinosaurs and we evolved from that?
We know nothing "for sure"; but if we were aliens we'd not share this much DNA with life as it evolved here. I do like the fact that se thinks her gender is somehow important.
musefan wrote:
Same applies to any of the species on earth really, how do we know this is their origin planet?
Early life was not spacefaring or sentient.
musefan wrote:
I think humans are so fascinated by the thought of aliens visiting
Mostly fantasy and arrogance. There's an entire ecosystem in your guts. It may just be they build their colonies in our shit.
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A claim of aliens living among us is simply conjecture and speculation based on hearsay and opinion. To the person making the statement, I say prove it with tangible and irrefutable evidence, or STFU. Simple as that. I'm willing to believe, but I need to see proof.
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013#realJSOP wrote:
I say prove it with tangible and irrefutable evidence
That is a common yet very weak and short-sighted argument. For example, prove to me that love exists. You can't. Yet you and I know that it does exist. In other words there are all kinds of things we all know exist but that can't be proven using the scientific method. It's not a complete method and should not be used as gospel.
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#realJSOP wrote:
I say prove it with tangible and irrefutable evidence
That is a common yet very weak and short-sighted argument. For example, prove to me that love exists. You can't. Yet you and I know that it does exist. In other words there are all kinds of things we all know exist but that can't be proven using the scientific method. It's not a complete method and should not be used as gospel.
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Love is a concept. Aliens, if they do exist and are on this planet, would be tangible so show them. If you want to prove that love exists, hurt my grandson. The hellfire my wife would bring down upon you would convince most people that love is real.
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I know a few that qualify as aliens cause they sure ain't from this world.
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Personally, I wish I was one.
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Aliens definitely exist and they could be living among us on Earth, says astronaut Helen Sharman[^] [CNN] /ravi
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I'm a space alien. I live among you. Next...
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Love is a concept. Aliens, if they do exist and are on this planet, would be tangible so show them. If you want to prove that love exists, hurt my grandson. The hellfire my wife would bring down upon you would convince most people that love is real.
MarkTJohnson wrote:
if they do exist and are on this planet, would be tangible so show them.
It's funny how people limit other life forms possibilities based on their own knowledge.
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Uptick for being a fellow leftie.
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Relativism and denying the evidence of your own senses is being a lefty? If so, it explains a lot. I find it amusing that people who have to deal with hard reality when it comes to software can spout such drivel.
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#realJSOP wrote:
I say prove it with tangible and irrefutable evidence
That is a common yet very weak and short-sighted argument. For example, prove to me that love exists. You can't. Yet you and I know that it does exist. In other words there are all kinds of things we all know exist but that can't be proven using the scientific method. It's not a complete method and should not be used as gospel.
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I didn't say they didn't exist. I said that someone's gonna have to prove to me that they are living among us. Again - I'm willing to believe they do, but I want proof.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
I believe they are, how else do you explain politicians?
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Those aren't aliens. They're demons.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013 -
I didn't say they didn't exist. I said that someone's gonna have to prove to me that they are living among us. Again - I'm willing to believe they do, but I want proof.
".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013#realJSOP wrote:
but I want proof.
I know. That's what my comment was about. Never mind.
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MarkTJohnson wrote:
if they do exist and are on this planet, would be tangible so show them.
It's funny how people limit other life forms possibilities based on their own knowledge.
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I think it's fair to presume they do not absent evidence, but one must be willing to change their beliefs in light of evidence. I also think it's a league too far to claim they do not exist absent evidence. I agree with you on that score. That said, a presumption and an absolute claim are two different things, I think. A presumption isn't necessarily based in fact, but in expediency. It would probably be counterproductive to go through life assuming there were aliens among us. For starters, people will think you're crazy. :laugh:
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Huh? I was just referring to his signature. We're both left handed.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Well, in fairness I did find the reply slightly humorous too. For my part I think it's fair to presume aliens are not among us absent evidence, but it's not entirely reasonable to make a claim that they do not exist among us absent evidence. It's overplaying one's hand. One might say it's unlikely, of course.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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I think it's fair to presume they do not absent evidence, but one must be willing to change their beliefs in light of evidence. I also think it's a league too far to claim they do not exist absent evidence. I agree with you on that score. That said, a presumption and an absolute claim are two different things, I think. A presumption isn't necessarily based in fact, but in expediency. It would probably be counterproductive to go through life assuming there were aliens among us. For starters, people will think you're crazy. :laugh:
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honey the codewitch wrote:
absent evidence,
The funny thing about evidence is that it is subjective.
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honey the codewitch wrote:
absent evidence,
The funny thing about evidence is that it is subjective.
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Yes and no. Generally when evaluating evidence, the parties involved must agree on what constitutes evidence and the relative strengths of these. In things like physics and neuroscience we use P values. Outside science, such as in informal debate we primarily rely on the use of logical propositions, and with questions of fact themselves again, the parties must agree on what constitutes evidence. But within any arena, it is possible to come to that agreement, and it's little different than simply agreeing on the terms of debate more generally.
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