So this should be fun. *choke*
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I've got an old I5-2500 with 8GB of ram (I know i know, i need to upgrade!) I'm attempting to run ubuntu as my primary OS, with Win10 in a virtualbox (oracle) in order to run VS2017 Mainly because windows keeps getting slower and slower the longer it's installed, and because VS2017 has a nasty habit of hosing my windows and VS installations (with respect to VSIX projects for some reason). But I have no idea if any of this will even work reliably as I'm really testing the limits of this machine with this configuration and it's a huge upfront investment in time and bandwidth installing VS without even being sure it will work.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
I'm running Fedora and used VirtualBox for years to run Windows in virtual machine for SQL server and Visual Studio... It worked great especially the seamless mode... However the fact that you put Windows in VM do not cure its hunger for resources so you still will hit the wall with your setup... (As today I run SQL on Fedora and use VS Code)
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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You're making assumptions. What you suggest is exactly what I said, except that it'd be a physical box instead of a VM. But whatever. I've done the same countless times with the same result you've had. :)
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Well, if you're going to start clean, you may as well do it in a VM since, well, there won't be a physical-to-virtual step. The problem with any P2V conversion is that the physical machine may have drivers that can cause problems with a virtual machine. Or, at the very least, won't be necessary.
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I've got an old I5-2500 with 8GB of ram (I know i know, i need to upgrade!) I'm attempting to run ubuntu as my primary OS, with Win10 in a virtualbox (oracle) in order to run VS2017 Mainly because windows keeps getting slower and slower the longer it's installed, and because VS2017 has a nasty habit of hosing my windows and VS installations (with respect to VSIX projects for some reason). But I have no idea if any of this will even work reliably as I'm really testing the limits of this machine with this configuration and it's a huge upfront investment in time and bandwidth installing VS without even being sure it will work.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
[Evil bastritch mode] On Linux, you should use eclipse. [/Evil bastritch mode]
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[Evil bastritch mode] On Linux, you should use eclipse. [/Evil bastritch mode]
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Eclipse crashes all the time on me. MonoDevelop is okay
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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I've got an old I5-2500 with 8GB of ram (I know i know, i need to upgrade!) I'm attempting to run ubuntu as my primary OS, with Win10 in a virtualbox (oracle) in order to run VS2017 Mainly because windows keeps getting slower and slower the longer it's installed, and because VS2017 has a nasty habit of hosing my windows and VS installations (with respect to VSIX projects for some reason). But I have no idea if any of this will even work reliably as I'm really testing the limits of this machine with this configuration and it's a huge upfront investment in time and bandwidth installing VS without even being sure it will work.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
Might be worth considering if you really need a full VS installation -- I fully switched to Ubuntu as primary OS a couple of months ago. My C# development now all happens with .NET Core and VSCode as IDE... granted, I don't use C# that much anymore (mostly switched over to Rust, absolutely loving that language) and it's definitely not an option for you if you need VSIX projects, but it could be worth thinking about :)
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I've got an old I5-2500 with 8GB of ram (I know i know, i need to upgrade!) I'm attempting to run ubuntu as my primary OS, with Win10 in a virtualbox (oracle) in order to run VS2017 Mainly because windows keeps getting slower and slower the longer it's installed, and because VS2017 has a nasty habit of hosing my windows and VS installations (with respect to VSIX projects for some reason). But I have no idea if any of this will even work reliably as I'm really testing the limits of this machine with this configuration and it's a huge upfront investment in time and bandwidth installing VS without even being sure it will work.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
Why would windows in a VM be faster than just Windows?
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Why would windows in a VM be faster than just Windows?
I never said it was. In fact I was worried it wouldn't be fast enough. I thought that was clear in my OP.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Might be worth considering if you really need a full VS installation -- I fully switched to Ubuntu as primary OS a couple of months ago. My C# development now all happens with .NET Core and VSCode as IDE... granted, I don't use C# that much anymore (mostly switched over to Rust, absolutely loving that language) and it's definitely not an option for you if you need VSIX projects, but it could be worth thinking about :)
I really don't like VScode. I don't know why. I like MonoDevelop on linux. Still yeah, I need VSIX and all that. I write a lot of code generation utilities
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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I'm running Fedora and used VirtualBox for years to run Windows in virtual machine for SQL server and Visual Studio... It worked great especially the seamless mode... However the fact that you put Windows in VM do not cure its hunger for resources so you still will hit the wall with your setup... (As today I run SQL on Fedora and use VS Code)
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
Yeah I'm not trying to trim windows. I alloced 5GB and change of my 8GB of RAM for the VM. I'd give it more, but my host OS still needs some room to breathe. I just was worried it would be too laggy to use, but it runs fine at my current settings.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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I never said it was. In fact I was worried it wouldn't be fast enough. I thought that was clear in my OP.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
So if your computer is too slow, why not just install windows?
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So if your computer is too slow, why not just install windows?
Because windows gets slower and slower over time and my VS seems to like to wreck windows. It breaks on VSIX projects and then no matter what, no visual studio installation, even new installs will build vsix projects on the machine. it's ridiculous but it's part of why i'm running in a VM. So i can just restore state and keep developing.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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Because windows gets slower and slower over time and my VS seems to like to wreck windows. It breaks on VSIX projects and then no matter what, no visual studio installation, even new installs will build vsix projects on the machine. it's ridiculous but it's part of why i'm running in a VM. So i can just restore state and keep developing.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
OK, that's fair. I used to have a cheap notebook I could reset with a keypress, I'd reset it to test installers
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You could use Disk2Vhd on a windows box to create a virtual hard drive from a system where VS2017 is installed. Not sure if the vhd produced will be mountable or runnable with virtualbox or not. Disk2vhd - Windows Sysinternals | Microsoft Docs[^] This may save you the time of installing VS2017 and Windows on a virtualbox VM.
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I got it running and got a state saved from a fresh install so I'm good.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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OK, that's fair. I used to have a cheap notebook I could reset with a keypress, I'd reset it to test installers
that's nice to have around. :)
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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that's nice to have around. :)
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
It was at the time. I was writing commercial software and regularly testing installers
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Eclipse crashes all the time on me. MonoDevelop is okay
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
Then you have to work on the infrastructure that supports eclipse. You're doing it wrong until 40% of your time is spent on maintaining eclipse.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Then you have to work on the infrastructure that supports eclipse. You're doing it wrong until 40% of your time is spent on maintaining eclipse.
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
You're doing it wrong until 40% of your time is spent on maintaining eclipse.
:laugh: I'm happy with my current setup, thanks :-D
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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I've got an old I5-2500 with 8GB of ram (I know i know, i need to upgrade!) I'm attempting to run ubuntu as my primary OS, with Win10 in a virtualbox (oracle) in order to run VS2017 Mainly because windows keeps getting slower and slower the longer it's installed, and because VS2017 has a nasty habit of hosing my windows and VS installations (with respect to VSIX projects for some reason). But I have no idea if any of this will even work reliably as I'm really testing the limits of this machine with this configuration and it's a huge upfront investment in time and bandwidth installing VS without even being sure it will work.
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
It's looks like I'm a bit late to the party now - but my box is running arch/i3-gaps and VS-code. Not sure whether you need the Microsoft stuff specifically, but it runs fine on a 4 year old MacBook. Wouldn't recommend setting up Arch unless you've a reasonable grasp of Linux, you can pretty much replace it with any linux. Virtual Box should be fine on linux. The only thing I'd suggest is ditching either Ubuntu and going for a lighter distro, or possibly ditching the Ubuntu desktop manager and using something lighter to free up system resources for the VM - [this seems to be a good article](https://phoenixnap.com/kb/how-to-install-a-gui-on-ubuntu) it's aimed at Unbuntu server (which [Also this](https://www.howtogeek.com/193129/how-to-install-and-use-another-desktop-environment-on-linux/) which is aimed at desktops specifically . The Mate desktop seems popular, I've not used it. XFCE is very light, I used to use it on an old atom-processor netbook. You can set the system up so you can choose the environment at login - so you can test things out until you find one you are happy with.
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It's looks like I'm a bit late to the party now - but my box is running arch/i3-gaps and VS-code. Not sure whether you need the Microsoft stuff specifically, but it runs fine on a 4 year old MacBook. Wouldn't recommend setting up Arch unless you've a reasonable grasp of Linux, you can pretty much replace it with any linux. Virtual Box should be fine on linux. The only thing I'd suggest is ditching either Ubuntu and going for a lighter distro, or possibly ditching the Ubuntu desktop manager and using something lighter to free up system resources for the VM - [this seems to be a good article](https://phoenixnap.com/kb/how-to-install-a-gui-on-ubuntu) it's aimed at Unbuntu server (which [Also this](https://www.howtogeek.com/193129/how-to-install-and-use-another-desktop-environment-on-linux/) which is aimed at desktops specifically . The Mate desktop seems popular, I've not used it. XFCE is very light, I used to use it on an old atom-processor netbook. You can set the system up so you can choose the environment at login - so you can test things out until you find one you are happy with.
KeithBarrow.net[^] - It might not be very good, but at least it is free!
I got it running smoothly in ubuntu, with about 5gb of RAM allocated to the VM and 3 for Ubuntu. Everything works except the VSIX test instances
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
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I got it running smoothly in ubuntu, with about 5gb of RAM allocated to the VM and 3 for Ubuntu. Everything works except the VSIX test instances
When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.
Ahh good, should be fine then.
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