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So this should be fun. *choke*

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  • C Christian Graus

    Why would windows in a VM be faster than just Windows?

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    honey the codewitch
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    I never said it was. In fact I was worried it wouldn't be fast enough. I thought that was clear in my OP.

    When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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    • T Thomas Daniels

      Might be worth considering if you really need a full VS installation -- I fully switched to Ubuntu as primary OS a couple of months ago. My C# development now all happens with .NET Core and VSCode as IDE... granted, I don't use C# that much anymore (mostly switched over to Rust, absolutely loving that language) and it's definitely not an option for you if you need VSIX projects, but it could be worth thinking about :)

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      honey the codewitch
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      I really don't like VScode. I don't know why. I like MonoDevelop on linux. Still yeah, I need VSIX and all that. I write a lot of code generation utilities

      When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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      • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

        I'm running Fedora and used VirtualBox for years to run Windows in virtual machine for SQL server and Visual Studio... It worked great especially the seamless mode... However the fact that you put Windows in VM do not cure its hunger for resources so you still will hit the wall with your setup... (As today I run SQL on Fedora and use VS Code)

        "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

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        honey the codewitch
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        Yeah I'm not trying to trim windows. I alloced 5GB and change of my 8GB of RAM for the VM. I'd give it more, but my host OS still needs some room to breathe. I just was worried it would be too laggy to use, but it runs fine at my current settings.

        When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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        • H honey the codewitch

          I never said it was. In fact I was worried it wouldn't be fast enough. I thought that was clear in my OP.

          When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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          Christian Graus
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          So if your computer is too slow, why not just install windows?

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          • C Christian Graus

            So if your computer is too slow, why not just install windows?

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            Because windows gets slower and slower over time and my VS seems to like to wreck windows. It breaks on VSIX projects and then no matter what, no visual studio installation, even new installs will build vsix projects on the machine. it's ridiculous but it's part of why i'm running in a VM. So i can just restore state and keep developing.

            When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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            • H honey the codewitch

              Because windows gets slower and slower over time and my VS seems to like to wreck windows. It breaks on VSIX projects and then no matter what, no visual studio installation, even new installs will build vsix projects on the machine. it's ridiculous but it's part of why i'm running in a VM. So i can just restore state and keep developing.

              When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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              Christian Graus
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              OK, that's fair. I used to have a cheap notebook I could reset with a keypress, I'd reset it to test installers

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              • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                You could use Disk2Vhd on a windows box to create a virtual hard drive from a system where VS2017 is installed. Not sure if the vhd produced will be mountable or runnable with virtualbox or not. Disk2vhd - Windows Sysinternals | Microsoft Docs[^] This may save you the time of installing VS2017 and Windows on a virtualbox VM.

                #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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                honey the codewitch
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                I got it running and got a state saved from a fresh install so I'm good.

                When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                • C Christian Graus

                  OK, that's fair. I used to have a cheap notebook I could reset with a keypress, I'd reset it to test installers

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                  honey the codewitch
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                  that's nice to have around. :)

                  When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                  • H honey the codewitch

                    that's nice to have around. :)

                    When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                    Christian Graus
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                    It was at the time. I was writing commercial software and regularly testing installers

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                    • H honey the codewitch

                      Eclipse crashes all the time on me. MonoDevelop is okay

                      When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                      Then you have to work on the infrastructure that supports eclipse. You're doing it wrong until 40% of your time is spent on maintaining eclipse.

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      • M Mark_Wallace

                        Then you have to work on the infrastructure that supports eclipse. You're doing it wrong until 40% of your time is spent on maintaining eclipse.

                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                        Mark_Wallace wrote:

                        You're doing it wrong until 40% of your time is spent on maintaining eclipse.

                        :laugh: I'm happy with my current setup, thanks :-D

                        When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                        • H honey the codewitch

                          I've got an old I5-2500 with 8GB of ram (I know i know, i need to upgrade!) I'm attempting to run ubuntu as my primary OS, with Win10 in a virtualbox (oracle) in order to run VS2017 Mainly because windows keeps getting slower and slower the longer it's installed, and because VS2017 has a nasty habit of hosing my windows and VS installations (with respect to VSIX projects for some reason). But I have no idea if any of this will even work reliably as I'm really testing the limits of this machine with this configuration and it's a huge upfront investment in time and bandwidth installing VS without even being sure it will work.

                          When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                          It's looks like I'm a bit late to the party now - but my box is running arch/i3-gaps and VS-code. Not sure whether you need the Microsoft stuff specifically, but it runs fine on a 4 year old MacBook. Wouldn't recommend setting up Arch unless you've a reasonable grasp of Linux, you can pretty much replace it with any linux. Virtual Box should be fine on linux. The only thing I'd suggest is ditching either Ubuntu and going for a lighter distro, or possibly ditching the Ubuntu desktop manager and using something lighter to free up system resources for the VM - [this seems to be a good article](https://phoenixnap.com/kb/how-to-install-a-gui-on-ubuntu) it's aimed at Unbuntu server (which [Also this](https://www.howtogeek.com/193129/how-to-install-and-use-another-desktop-environment-on-linux/) which is aimed at desktops specifically . The Mate desktop seems popular, I've not used it. XFCE is very light, I used to use it on an old atom-processor netbook. You can set the system up so you can choose the environment at login - so you can test things out until you find one you are happy with.

                          KeithBarrow.net[^] - It might not be very good, but at least it is free!

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                            It's looks like I'm a bit late to the party now - but my box is running arch/i3-gaps and VS-code. Not sure whether you need the Microsoft stuff specifically, but it runs fine on a 4 year old MacBook. Wouldn't recommend setting up Arch unless you've a reasonable grasp of Linux, you can pretty much replace it with any linux. Virtual Box should be fine on linux. The only thing I'd suggest is ditching either Ubuntu and going for a lighter distro, or possibly ditching the Ubuntu desktop manager and using something lighter to free up system resources for the VM - [this seems to be a good article](https://phoenixnap.com/kb/how-to-install-a-gui-on-ubuntu) it's aimed at Unbuntu server (which [Also this](https://www.howtogeek.com/193129/how-to-install-and-use-another-desktop-environment-on-linux/) which is aimed at desktops specifically . The Mate desktop seems popular, I've not used it. XFCE is very light, I used to use it on an old atom-processor netbook. You can set the system up so you can choose the environment at login - so you can test things out until you find one you are happy with.

                            KeithBarrow.net[^] - It might not be very good, but at least it is free!

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                            I got it running smoothly in ubuntu, with about 5gb of RAM allocated to the VM and 3 for Ubuntu. Everything works except the VSIX test instances

                            When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                            • H honey the codewitch

                              I got it running smoothly in ubuntu, with about 5gb of RAM allocated to the VM and 3 for Ubuntu. Everything works except the VSIX test instances

                              When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                              Ahh good, should be fine then.

                              KeithBarrow.net[^] - It might not be very good, but at least it is free!

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                              • H honey the codewitch

                                I got it running and got a state saved from a fresh install so I'm good.

                                When I was growin' up, I was the smartest kid I knew. Maybe that was just because I didn't know that many kids. All I know is now I feel the opposite.

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                                :thumbsup:

                                #SupportHeForShe Government can give you nothing but what it takes from somebody else. A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take everything you've got, including your freedom.-Ezra Taft Benson You must accept 1 of 2 basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe or we are not alone. Either way, the implications are staggering!-Wernher von Braun

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