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  • D dandy72

    JSOP seems to have a knack for finding these places. :-)

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    realJSOP
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    Well, DoD dev work has always been a pain in the ass, and especially so when you dev for the USAF. The cloud crap is simply shoveling more crap in the hole.

    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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    • D dandy72

      Yeah, god forbid - that would be useful, and you might get things done.

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      realJSOP
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      I often have to remind myself not to bring logic or common sense with me when I come to work.

      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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        Not permitted to run a VM on local machines.

        ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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        You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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        When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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        Rage
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        :laugh: So putting all data on the cloud is OK, but running a VM is not ? I think someone needs a cybersecurity training.

        Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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        • R realJSOP

          I often have to remind myself not to bring logic or common sense with me when I come to work.

          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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          dandy72
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          It's scary to think how much truth there is in that statement.

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          • R realJSOP

            We're in the process of moving everything over to the cloud. In order to get to visual studio to do dev work, we have to VPN into the network, RDP to a "jump box", and then RDP from there into our dev environment. While we're VPN'd into the remote network, we can't access email or a web browser on our local machine. This means we're completely cut off from communications on our own local network.

            ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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            You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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            When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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            Lost User
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            And you're limited to one monitor when "dialed" in?

            It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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            • R realJSOP

              We're in the process of moving everything over to the cloud. In order to get to visual studio to do dev work, we have to VPN into the network, RDP to a "jump box", and then RDP from there into our dev environment. While we're VPN'd into the remote network, we can't access email or a web browser on our local machine. This means we're completely cut off from communications on our own local network.

              ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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              You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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              When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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              Shuqian Ying
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              For your info, one can use V-NET Router if one needs more flexibility and even some aspect of security :-O , in case one would like to know. Otherwise one could stop further reading ... It is an SDN solution that allows one to connect from one's local base LAN (local network) to any number remote offices, cloud domains at the same time. It is just like a normal router after (software) provisioning. Each remote connection is isolated from the local base LAN by using layer 2 VLAN for security purposes and can communicate to each other on explicit demand ... User can access public internet and various remote location at the same time We are still developing it, however it's in working state. since we are using it internally. This very message is uploaded via an end-point in California while I am sitting somewhere else in the world ...

              Find more in V-NET: connects your resources anywhere[^].

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              • R realJSOP

                I often have to remind myself not to bring logic or common sense with me when I come to work.

                ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                Kelly Herald
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                I call that "Corporate Logic" :laugh:

                Kelly Herald Software Developer

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                • R realJSOP

                  We're in the process of moving everything over to the cloud. In order to get to visual studio to do dev work, we have to VPN into the network, RDP to a "jump box", and then RDP from there into our dev environment. While we're VPN'd into the remote network, we can't access email or a web browser on our local machine. This means we're completely cut off from communications on our own local network.

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  Lost User
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                  #realJSOP wrote:

                  While we're VPN'd into the remote network, we can't access email or a web browser on our local machine. This means we're completely cut off from communications on our own local network.

                  Ask them to make it a Split Tunnel VPN so you can get to your local network as well.

                  Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                    #realJSOP wrote:

                    While we're VPN'd into the remote network, we can't access email or a web browser on our local machine. This means we're completely cut off from communications on our own local network.

                    Ask them to make it a Split Tunnel VPN so you can get to your local network as well.

                    Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                    realJSOP
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                    Not gonna happen.

                    ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                    You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                    When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                    • R RJOberg

                      That's what I'm predicting will happen here if/when we ever implement the same sort of policy. Someone who doesn't have to use it will force it into place, employees will use it and complain about how bad it is with a laundry list of reasons, and finally employees will be ignored and told that is the only option available. The other amusing piece being discussed here is that security wants to prohibit VPNing from non-managed (i.e. personal) devices. Problem is we won't purchase laptops for everyone and we're still expected to somehow provide service any time it is needed including after hours and weekends.

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                      Dan Neely
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                      Don't forget the part where all the good employees ragequit for saner employers within 6 months to a year, leaving the office full of Wally's and other useless sorts. :doh:

                      Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                      • R Rage

                        :laugh: So putting all data on the cloud is OK, but running a VM is not ? I think someone needs a cybersecurity training.

                        Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                        Dan Neely
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                        Spoken like someone who's never had to suffer through the DoD's cyber security awareness training. :doh: :doh: :doh: It was so excruciatingly awful the last time I did it before escaping to my current company that I'd rather take political correctness thought police training. :(( :(( :(( :((

                        Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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