LinkedIn is a stalking ground for incompetent recruiters...
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Do they ever become Senior? And what's the definition of senior in that case?
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"Senior" as in "senile"? :)
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At least Java is related to programming... I got a truck driver position in central Germany... :laugh:
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Were commuting expenses part of the package?
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.
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"Senior" as in "senile"? :)
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.
Makes sense actually.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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... and I just recieved a prime example: It's a Java position (which is not on my resume). It's only 50 miles away, in the middle of a city, so you're looking at 2 ~ 3 hours each way of commuting. And it requires 15 years of related experience as a Software Developer. The post? "Junior Java Developer" Yeah, that sounds like a great idea! :doh:
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Joining linkedin bears no profit for your working life or career. It's just another source of spam.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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At least Java is related to programming... I got a truck driver position in central Germany... :laugh:
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
I once got offered a job as a property developer (construction) because my job title states that I'm a Software Developer. Worst of all was that the recruiter could not understand why I couldn't give her a list of the shopping malls I've built in my career (which was 2 years experience at the time).
My plan is to live forever ... so far so good
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... and I just recieved a prime example: It's a Java position (which is not on my resume). It's only 50 miles away, in the middle of a city, so you're looking at 2 ~ 3 hours each way of commuting. And it requires 15 years of related experience as a Software Developer. The post? "Junior Java Developer" Yeah, that sounds like a great idea! :doh:
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
You mean you know of a competent recruiter?
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... and I just recieved a prime example: It's a Java position (which is not on my resume). It's only 50 miles away, in the middle of a city, so you're looking at 2 ~ 3 hours each way of commuting. And it requires 15 years of related experience as a Software Developer. The post? "Junior Java Developer" Yeah, that sounds like a great idea! :doh:
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
OriginalGriff wrote:
incompetent recruiters
Pleonasm...
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"I neither have a degree in an HR-related field nor have worked in HR before" You're over-qualified then
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At least Java is related to programming... I got a truck driver position in central Germany... :laugh:
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
The best on I have is 'Shot Delivery Agent, Roller Skate expertise need', Admittedly not through linked in but... I happen to have a means of motor control on CV, I think that got some wires crossed somewhere.
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At least Java is related to programming... I got a truck driver position in central Germany... :laugh:
"The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012
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... and I just recieved a prime example: It's a Java position (which is not on my resume). It's only 50 miles away, in the middle of a city, so you're looking at 2 ~ 3 hours each way of commuting. And it requires 15 years of related experience as a Software Developer. The post? "Junior Java Developer" Yeah, that sounds like a great idea! :doh:
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
That's the reason I don't LinkedIn :) I was also warned that some companies only look there; which is perfect, because they're obviously not really in the need for a programmer then.
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Odd... the only pings I've receive (twice a year, almost like clockwork) are from Google (they're expanding in Toronto) and FB (AFAIK, they're not based in Toronto). I also don't have my profile flagged as open to new opportunities. /ravi
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Ravi Bhavnani wrote:
I also don't have my profile flagged as open to new opportunities
They don't care about that. I always have my profile set to not looking for a new role (or what ever they call it) as I prefer to call a recruiter if I want a new job. But they still have been sending me, we have a role that suits your profile.
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Ravi Bhavnani wrote:
I also don't have my profile flagged as open to new opportunities
They don't care about that. I always have my profile set to not looking for a new role (or what ever they call it) as I prefer to call a recruiter if I want a new job. But they still have been sending me, we have a role that suits your profile.
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Interesting. The pings I receive from Google are from a real human (the same person I've been contacted by for a few years). FB seems to have a higher turnover of recruiters, because the person changes every 18 months or so. In both cases, the contacts have been unsolicited, although the Google ping is a result of a referral by a friend. But I don't know anyone at FB. /ravi
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I have one for you, not necessarily LinkedIn but shitty recruiter related, none the less. This recruiter that was unable to place me about 5 years ago, sends me emails every so often, asking me if I know of any developers looking for work, but never actually asks me if I would be interested in the position; only if I know someone else that would be. :sigh:
It's much easier to enjoy the favor of both friend and foe, and not give a damn who's who. -- Lon Milo DuQuette
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I once got offered a job as a property developer (construction) because my job title states that I'm a Software Developer. Worst of all was that the recruiter could not understand why I couldn't give her a list of the shopping malls I've built in my career (which was 2 years experience at the time).
My plan is to live forever ... so far so good
That reminds me... In the 1990, I was a Comp.Sci. college lecturer. There had been a sudden drop in the demand for software people, so our students didn't always find a job after graduation. One of them was hired by a publishing house for typing into the computer the complete works of the Norwegian playwright Henrik Ibsen. He got the job because he, as a programmer, knew how to use a keybard. Then comes the crazy part of the story - unrelated to LinkedIn and recruiting, but it deserves to be told: I was suprised that the job was offered at all. This company had published a new Ibsen Complete only a few years back, which certainly must have been typeset by computer, right? Yes, right. That printing was sold out, and they were going to make a new one. Then they have the typesetting files in their computers, don't they? Well ... This publishing house went directly from lead type to computer typesetting, replacing the technology, but retaining the work procedures with as little change as possible. In the age of lead type, once a printing had been made, the lead was recycled for the next book to be printed. The last (now sold out) Ibsen printing had certainly been made by a computer typesetting system, with the text stored on floppy discs. Once the printing was done, the floppy disks had been recycled, used for their next book. The publishing house guys thought of that as the normal thing to do; in the lead age, you always had to do the typesetting again to make a new printing of an old book. My former student was happy with getting some income while searching for a permanent job, but shook his head as much as I did.
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That reminds me... In the 1990, I was a Comp.Sci. college lecturer. There had been a sudden drop in the demand for software people, so our students didn't always find a job after graduation. One of them was hired by a publishing house for typing into the computer the complete works of the Norwegian playwright Henrik Ibsen. He got the job because he, as a programmer, knew how to use a keybard. Then comes the crazy part of the story - unrelated to LinkedIn and recruiting, but it deserves to be told: I was suprised that the job was offered at all. This company had published a new Ibsen Complete only a few years back, which certainly must have been typeset by computer, right? Yes, right. That printing was sold out, and they were going to make a new one. Then they have the typesetting files in their computers, don't they? Well ... This publishing house went directly from lead type to computer typesetting, replacing the technology, but retaining the work procedures with as little change as possible. In the age of lead type, once a printing had been made, the lead was recycled for the next book to be printed. The last (now sold out) Ibsen printing had certainly been made by a computer typesetting system, with the text stored on floppy discs. Once the printing was done, the floppy disks had been recycled, used for their next book. The publishing house guys thought of that as the normal thing to do; in the lead age, you always had to do the typesetting again to make a new printing of an old book. My former student was happy with getting some income while searching for a permanent job, but shook his head as much as I did.
That is a fail of epic proportions. Maybe even worse than the lady who stuck the floppy disk backup to the office fridge with an industrial strength magnet.
My plan is to live forever ... so far so good
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That reminds me... In the 1990, I was a Comp.Sci. college lecturer. There had been a sudden drop in the demand for software people, so our students didn't always find a job after graduation. One of them was hired by a publishing house for typing into the computer the complete works of the Norwegian playwright Henrik Ibsen. He got the job because he, as a programmer, knew how to use a keybard. Then comes the crazy part of the story - unrelated to LinkedIn and recruiting, but it deserves to be told: I was suprised that the job was offered at all. This company had published a new Ibsen Complete only a few years back, which certainly must have been typeset by computer, right? Yes, right. That printing was sold out, and they were going to make a new one. Then they have the typesetting files in their computers, don't they? Well ... This publishing house went directly from lead type to computer typesetting, replacing the technology, but retaining the work procedures with as little change as possible. In the age of lead type, once a printing had been made, the lead was recycled for the next book to be printed. The last (now sold out) Ibsen printing had certainly been made by a computer typesetting system, with the text stored on floppy discs. Once the printing was done, the floppy disks had been recycled, used for their next book. The publishing house guys thought of that as the normal thing to do; in the lead age, you always had to do the typesetting again to make a new printing of an old book. My former student was happy with getting some income while searching for a permanent job, but shook his head as much as I did.
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... and I just recieved a prime example: It's a Java position (which is not on my resume). It's only 50 miles away, in the middle of a city, so you're looking at 2 ~ 3 hours each way of commuting. And it requires 15 years of related experience as a Software Developer. The post? "Junior Java Developer" Yeah, that sounds like a great idea! :doh:
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
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... and I just recieved a prime example: It's a Java position (which is not on my resume). It's only 50 miles away, in the middle of a city, so you're looking at 2 ~ 3 hours each way of commuting. And it requires 15 years of related experience as a Software Developer. The post? "Junior Java Developer" Yeah, that sounds like a great idea! :doh:
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!
I can see how that might be frustrating or humiliating. I'm not a big fan of Java personally, but I feel I can code it. The thing that irritates me more than anything else is "Must have X years of experience in XYX" programming language. That's usually not a good indicator of a programmer's ability to adapt. When screening for candidates, companies should search on paradigms (Imperative, OOP and Functional) and possibly experience with APIs and business processes to see if a candidate is a good fit. I'm thinking about applying for a IT job with the IRS, but for their external positions, they often say something like "Must have X number of years of programming experience in Java or COBOL..." I can understand why companies look for programmers with COBOL experience because COBOL is IMO very hard for a CS graduate to tolerate, but Java is a respectable language even if C# and Haskell are better :)
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It doesn't really matter because I have a very good gig right now making great money. Recruiter's loss, really.
It's much easier to enjoy the favor of both friend and foe, and not give a damn who's who. -- Lon Milo DuQuette
