what is the best way?
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So having a teen daughter who spends most of the free time (after doing school work and watching Netflix ) in smartphone, what should be the best approach regarding watching her activity 1. Asking Mrs to handle it? 2. Ask her to voluntary show the activity? 3. checking the phone on the sly? Her iTunes ,spotify account is linked to my Credit card so I know she is not doing any useless purchase. She has two Insta, tik tok, snap account which is private as well public
cheers,
Super
------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
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So having a teen daughter who spends most of the free time (after doing school work and watching Netflix ) in smartphone, what should be the best approach regarding watching her activity 1. Asking Mrs to handle it? 2. Ask her to voluntary show the activity? 3. checking the phone on the sly? Her iTunes ,spotify account is linked to my Credit card so I know she is not doing any useless purchase. She has two Insta, tik tok, snap account which is private as well public
cheers,
Super
------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
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So having a teen daughter who spends most of the free time (after doing school work and watching Netflix ) in smartphone, what should be the best approach regarding watching her activity 1. Asking Mrs to handle it? 2. Ask her to voluntary show the activity? 3. checking the phone on the sly? Her iTunes ,spotify account is linked to my Credit card so I know she is not doing any useless purchase. She has two Insta, tik tok, snap account which is private as well public
cheers,
Super
------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
Maybe the best way would be to respect her privacy? :confused:
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So having a teen daughter who spends most of the free time (after doing school work and watching Netflix ) in smartphone, what should be the best approach regarding watching her activity 1. Asking Mrs to handle it? 2. Ask her to voluntary show the activity? 3. checking the phone on the sly? Her iTunes ,spotify account is linked to my Credit card so I know she is not doing any useless purchase. She has two Insta, tik tok, snap account which is private as well public
cheers,
Super
------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
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So having a teen daughter who spends most of the free time (after doing school work and watching Netflix ) in smartphone, what should be the best approach regarding watching her activity 1. Asking Mrs to handle it? 2. Ask her to voluntary show the activity? 3. checking the phone on the sly? Her iTunes ,spotify account is linked to my Credit card so I know she is not doing any useless purchase. She has two Insta, tik tok, snap account which is private as well public
cheers,
Super
------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
The same as if she were thirty.
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So having a teen daughter who spends most of the free time (after doing school work and watching Netflix ) in smartphone, what should be the best approach regarding watching her activity 1. Asking Mrs to handle it? 2. Ask her to voluntary show the activity? 3. checking the phone on the sly? Her iTunes ,spotify account is linked to my Credit card so I know she is not doing any useless purchase. She has two Insta, tik tok, snap account which is private as well public
cheers,
Super
------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
Having been in that position before (two teenage daughters), I would suggest: 1. Sit down with her, and explain the dangers of internet access. You may want to acknowledge the advantages as well, just to show that you're not against internet use, only irresponsible internet use. 2. Once you have explained the dangers, explain why you wish to install an anti-virus/"family content" filter package on her phone. Emphasize that this is not so you can spy on her, but so she is not victimized by the bad actors on the internet. 3. Most of these "family content" filters allow for custom restrictions and/or monitoring the children's surfing habits. Set the options according to what you want, and tell your daughter that you are doing so. For example, some "family content" filters allow banning certain categories of sites, etc. 4. Your daughter will still be able to remove the package from her phone, but you will know it (no surfing reported?), and can take appropriate steps. Let her know what these steps will be. I hope this helps. (I haven't given recommendations for packages, because (a) I don't know what is current, and (b) it's against site policy as I understand it.)
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.
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So having a teen daughter who spends most of the free time (after doing school work and watching Netflix ) in smartphone, what should be the best approach regarding watching her activity 1. Asking Mrs to handle it? 2. Ask her to voluntary show the activity? 3. checking the phone on the sly? Her iTunes ,spotify account is linked to my Credit card so I know she is not doing any useless purchase. She has two Insta, tik tok, snap account which is private as well public
cheers,
Super
------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
She's a teen... My niece is like that, they spend time on snapchat. One way is to engage with her and have a good fatherly talk about safe internet usage; and tell her that if she feels pressure into doing things she do not feel good about, to come to you (or the mom, or school counselors) and talk about it.
I'd rather be phishing!
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Maybe the best way would be to respect her privacy? :confused:
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Is trusting her not an option?
"Five fruits and vegetables a day? What a joke! Personally, after the third watermelon, I'm full."
phil.o wrote:
Is trusting her not an option?
Have you ever raised kids before? :-D
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Having been in that position before (two teenage daughters), I would suggest: 1. Sit down with her, and explain the dangers of internet access. You may want to acknowledge the advantages as well, just to show that you're not against internet use, only irresponsible internet use. 2. Once you have explained the dangers, explain why you wish to install an anti-virus/"family content" filter package on her phone. Emphasize that this is not so you can spy on her, but so she is not victimized by the bad actors on the internet. 3. Most of these "family content" filters allow for custom restrictions and/or monitoring the children's surfing habits. Set the options according to what you want, and tell your daughter that you are doing so. For example, some "family content" filters allow banning certain categories of sites, etc. 4. Your daughter will still be able to remove the package from her phone, but you will know it (no surfing reported?), and can take appropriate steps. Let her know what these steps will be. I hope this helps. (I haven't given recommendations for packages, because (a) I don't know what is current, and (b) it's against site policy as I understand it.)
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.
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phil.o wrote:
Is trusting her not an option?
Have you ever raised kids before? :-D
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
As the Russians say: Trust, but verify.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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phil.o wrote:
Is trusting her not an option?
Have you ever raised kids before? :-D
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
Yes. I'm not saying educating a teenager is never problematic. I'm just questionning whether systematically infantilizing them is a good solution in the long term.
"Five fruits and vegetables a day? What a joke! Personally, after the third watermelon, I'm full."
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Having been in that position before (two teenage daughters), I would suggest: 1. Sit down with her, and explain the dangers of internet access. You may want to acknowledge the advantages as well, just to show that you're not against internet use, only irresponsible internet use. 2. Once you have explained the dangers, explain why you wish to install an anti-virus/"family content" filter package on her phone. Emphasize that this is not so you can spy on her, but so she is not victimized by the bad actors on the internet. 3. Most of these "family content" filters allow for custom restrictions and/or monitoring the children's surfing habits. Set the options according to what you want, and tell your daughter that you are doing so. For example, some "family content" filters allow banning certain categories of sites, etc. 4. Your daughter will still be able to remove the package from her phone, but you will know it (no surfing reported?), and can take appropriate steps. Let her know what these steps will be. I hope this helps. (I haven't given recommendations for packages, because (a) I don't know what is current, and (b) it's against site policy as I understand it.)
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.
How well did this approach work (genuine curiosity)? It won't be terribly long before I'll be having similar discussions, and I like your answer. :)
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Yes. I'm not saying educating a teenager is never problematic. I'm just questionning whether systematically infantilizing them is a good solution in the long term.
"Five fruits and vegetables a day? What a joke! Personally, after the third watermelon, I'm full."
phil.o wrote:
systematically infantilizing them is a good solution in the long term.
No it's not, nor did I see that suggested anywhere. Maybe I read it differently than you.
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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How well did this approach work (genuine curiosity)? It won't be terribly long before I'll be having similar discussions, and I like your answer. :)
With my daughters it worked quite well. YMMV :)
Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.
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So having a teen daughter who spends most of the free time (after doing school work and watching Netflix ) in smartphone, what should be the best approach regarding watching her activity 1. Asking Mrs to handle it? 2. Ask her to voluntary show the activity? 3. checking the phone on the sly? Her iTunes ,spotify account is linked to my Credit card so I know she is not doing any useless purchase. She has two Insta, tik tok, snap account which is private as well public
cheers,
Super
------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
Since you're German the child has certain rights. If you want to watch/spy on her activities, you can only legally do so if you have her permission to do so. Similarly to a daily journal; the child has right to privacy. You're allowed to block stuff on your router to limit access, but not to spy, or even read her SMS messages. Simple as that. "Das Recht auf Privatsphäre gilt als Menschenrecht". Privatsphäre von Kindern: Hinterherschnüffeln gehört sich nicht[^]
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^] "If you just follow the bacon Eddy, wherever it leads you, then you won't have to think about politics." -- Some Bell.
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So having a teen daughter who spends most of the free time (after doing school work and watching Netflix ) in smartphone, what should be the best approach regarding watching her activity 1. Asking Mrs to handle it? 2. Ask her to voluntary show the activity? 3. checking the phone on the sly? Her iTunes ,spotify account is linked to my Credit card so I know she is not doing any useless purchase. She has two Insta, tik tok, snap account which is private as well public
cheers,
Super
------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
Whatever you do, don't do number three. I'm ending up there soon enough and I think I will Ask her to add me, or rather her mom, as a friend on all these services. Knowing that we might see what she posts should be enough to self censor to a reasonable level. Those internet services ARE public after all.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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Is trusting her not an option?
"Five fruits and vegetables a day? What a joke! Personally, after the third watermelon, I'm full."
I see you've never used tiktok :D
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So having a teen daughter who spends most of the free time (after doing school work and watching Netflix ) in smartphone, what should be the best approach regarding watching her activity 1. Asking Mrs to handle it? 2. Ask her to voluntary show the activity? 3. checking the phone on the sly? Her iTunes ,spotify account is linked to my Credit card so I know she is not doing any useless purchase. She has two Insta, tik tok, snap account which is private as well public
cheers,
Super
------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it
I think the biggest problem with the internet is that it's far too easy to be deceived. With that in mind, I think the most useful lesson to teach her would be to never assume everything to be true. Always question the authenticity of everything. Learning this skill can prevent a lot of potential problems ranging from fraud to sexual assault - and everything in between. Use examples of different types of problems, and as ugly as it may be, make sure to talk about sexual predators - because let's be honest, it's the most dangerous type of deception that's out there. If it hasn't happened already, her first love isn't much further around the corner... don't let it be some random on the internet. Unfortunately most adults don't even have this skill, so it's not an easy task, but getting it in her head now will set her up well for the rest of her life. In the end, you can't monitor everything she does, so better to make sure she is educated into making the right decisions for herself. Though if you got this far as a parent, then I am sure you know most of this already ;)
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Whatever you do, don't do number three. I'm ending up there soon enough and I think I will Ask her to add me, or rather her mom, as a friend on all these services. Knowing that we might see what she posts should be enough to self censor to a reasonable level. Those internet services ARE public after all.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
