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Would you trust a self-driving car?

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  • R rjmoses

    The question on the floor is: Would (will) you trust your life to a self-driving car? My own answer: "NO!". I will post my reasoning later.

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    Go to QA. Read a couple of hundred questions. Self driving cars? You'll never use a bank, airplane, or mobile phone again ... :sigh: TBH: compared to the quality of driving you get from trained, licenced, apparently legal drivers I suspect that a self driving car that drove itself into a tree one trip out of a thousand would be preferable company on the roads. It won't get drunk. It won't read the paper, text its mates, perform sex acts, disappear to have a rummage in the glove box, or just have such an intense chat with a passenger that eye contact is essential for minutes at a time. It won't let itself out on the road if it has a serious car defect, or if it's been disqualified, isn't insured, or - possibly - even stolen. It won't drive the wrong way into traffic to get away from the police, it won't deliberate drive though pedestrian areas, it won't drive 10cm from your rear bumper because it's in a hurry - if it does, it's talking to the car in front and savign road space and energy. Persuade me that all human drivers are better than that, before you try to prevent self driving cars ... In a generation, manual driving will probably be frowned upon like drunk driving is today, and will almost certainly be illegal.

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    • R rjmoses

      The question on the floor is: Would (will) you trust your life to a self-driving car? My own answer: "NO!". I will post my reasoning later.

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      musefan
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      Eventually I will. They will suss them out I am sure, and even if accidents do occur it will still be a lot less then the current idiots on the roads cause.

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        The question on the floor is: Would (will) you trust your life to a self-driving car? My own answer: "NO!". I will post my reasoning later.

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        Might be. As a matter of fact, I trust more the self-driving metro than the human driven one.

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          I really want to say no - but the quality of driving I see as the next generation gets behind the wheel makes me think: "I would trust it to by mandatory for these new drivers" - since they're way too dumb and self-involved to share the road with others - and they drive that way (it is their road, isn't it?).

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          I'll just agree, if I say any more I'll get started and there's probably a limit on the length of a post. I'll just say; without their phones they wouldn't/couldn't survive!

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          • R rjmoses

            The question on the floor is: Would (will) you trust your life to a self-driving car? My own answer: "NO!". I will post my reasoning later.

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            Would you trust a self-signed certificate?

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            • R rjmoses

              The question on the floor is: Would (will) you trust your life to a self-driving car? My own answer: "NO!". I will post my reasoning later.

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              Lost User
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              Given the sort of questions and sample code I see in QA, then no way.

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              • R rjmoses

                The question on the floor is: Would (will) you trust your life to a self-driving car? My own answer: "NO!". I will post my reasoning later.

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                Kris Lantz
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                While I certainly enjoy manual driving, the move to self-driving vehicles simply has more pros than cons. Generations to either side of me are the worst drivers, so I want those safety risks removed. :-\

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                • R rjmoses

                  The question on the floor is: Would (will) you trust your life to a self-driving car? My own answer: "NO!". I will post my reasoning later.

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                  Trust it? Emphatically no! Use it? Maybe. Problem is that computers are really stupid. machine-learning-confronts-the-elephant-in-the-room[^]

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                  • R rjmoses

                    The question on the floor is: Would (will) you trust your life to a self-driving car? My own answer: "NO!". I will post my reasoning later.

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                    • L Lost User

                      Given the sort of questions and sample code I see in QA, then no way.

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                      Well, if you don't send them the codez they ask for, it's really your own fault! :doh:

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                      • R rjmoses

                        The question on the floor is: Would (will) you trust your life to a self-driving car? My own answer: "NO!". I will post my reasoning later.

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                          Well, if you don't send them the codez they ask for, it's really your own fault! :doh:

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                          Have you seen my code? X|

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                            The question on the floor is: Would (will) you trust your life to a self-driving car? My own answer: "NO!". I will post my reasoning later.

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                            Why are you asking me? Ask my chauffeur.

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                              The question on the floor is: Would (will) you trust your life to a self-driving car? My own answer: "NO!". I will post my reasoning later.

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                              jeron1
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                              No, :elephant: no.

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                                The question on the floor is: Would (will) you trust your life to a self-driving car? My own answer: "NO!". I will post my reasoning later.

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                                If *all* cars were suddenly self-driving, we might have a chance of making it work. But as long as there's a mix of human drivers and self-driving cars on the same roads at the same time...the self-driving cars are in a difficult position to account for the stupidity of the human drivers.

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                                  The question on the floor is: Would (will) you trust your life to a self-driving car? My own answer: "NO!". I will post my reasoning later.

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                                  Maximilien
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                                  not until all other cars are self driving cars.

                                  I'd rather be phishing!

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                                    The question on the floor is: Would (will) you trust your life to a self-driving car? My own answer: "NO!". I will post my reasoning later.

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                                    Maybe if they carved slots in the roads.

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                                      The question on the floor is: Would (will) you trust your life to a self-driving car? My own answer: "NO!". I will post my reasoning later.

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                                      My answer is not yet.

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                                        Go to QA. Read a couple of hundred questions. Self driving cars? You'll never use a bank, airplane, or mobile phone again ... :sigh: TBH: compared to the quality of driving you get from trained, licenced, apparently legal drivers I suspect that a self driving car that drove itself into a tree one trip out of a thousand would be preferable company on the roads. It won't get drunk. It won't read the paper, text its mates, perform sex acts, disappear to have a rummage in the glove box, or just have such an intense chat with a passenger that eye contact is essential for minutes at a time. It won't let itself out on the road if it has a serious car defect, or if it's been disqualified, isn't insured, or - possibly - even stolen. It won't drive the wrong way into traffic to get away from the police, it won't deliberate drive though pedestrian areas, it won't drive 10cm from your rear bumper because it's in a hurry - if it does, it's talking to the car in front and savign road space and energy. Persuade me that all human drivers are better than that, before you try to prevent self driving cars ... In a generation, manual driving will probably be frowned upon like drunk driving is today, and will almost certainly be illegal.

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                                        My wife and I had a discussion this morning about driver's high on pot in Illinois since it is legal here now.

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                                        • W W Balboos GHB

                                          I really want to say no - but the quality of driving I see as the next generation gets behind the wheel makes me think: "I would trust it to by mandatory for these new drivers" - since they're way too dumb and self-involved to share the road with others - and they drive that way (it is their road, isn't it?).

                                          Ravings en masse^

                                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                          rjmoses
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                                          Good point! Driver's Ed doesn't teach driving. I'm not sure what it teaches, but it sure doesn't teach driving--unless you live in a Nordic country like Belgium or Norway--there, they are required to teach such things as control skids, power slides, etc., because of icy roads.

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