It's 2020, it's Office 365, and yet archaisms remain...
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I would have liked "hypers" instead of links. much cooler. hey, click on the hyper.
I'd rather be phishing!
No hipster, we will not be using that lingo here. ;P
My plan is to live forever ... so far so good
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AFell2 wrote:
And they called them Hyperlinks back then too.
Yes, exactly! The 1980's! And at that point, HTTP (Hypertext Transfer Protocol) was new or unheard of. But now? :laugh:
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Abusing Extension Methods, Null Continuation, and Null Coalescence OperatorsBut hypertext was a well known concept. Ted Nelsons book was published in 1974. Every now and then I bring my copy of the book to work to show to young, new employees the ideas of almost fifty years ago. They are amused, and a little bit impressed. Some are fascinated when I point out Ted Nelson's two different hypertext scenarios: The one that survived, where text is is the vertices (nodes); edges (links) are without content. In the second one, vertices are mere selection points; text is found on the edge between two selection points. You consider text from one vertex to the second to the third and so on as one continous, coherent chain of text fragments to be read as a whole. The two approaches obviously are suited for different uses. In a network of independent nodes you cannot easily store much data between the nodes. The text-in-the-edges approach is mainly suited for one coherent text body, that can be read along an arbitrary number of paths. When I write a personal letter (I am old enough to remember the days when that was a common thing...), writing one sentence gives me two different associations, two lines of thought, and I wish I could follow both in the following sentence. I am forced to string them out sequentially. In printed books, footnotes are a slight suggestion of the concept, but you can't follow the footnote path very long (*), and you divert from the main track, you are not given two+ equivalent alternative paths. Most people never considered alternatives to text-in-the-nodes. Presentation of an alternative sets them thinking: Everyone knows the situation where you want to follow two lines of thought from the same point; they certainly see the usefulness of the alternative that lost. So let us bring it back again! (*) Except for some authors that excel in writing footnotes to footnotes, present major plots in footnotes etc. Some books may be read either way - e.g. "Spoon River Anthology" may be be read as a continous path from one person/epitaph to another one, crisscrossing through Spoon River, even though it textually is a text-in-nodes structure.
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Marc Clifton wrote:
every other app calls them "links" now.
app = application so it makes sense we should shorten hyperlinks to just links, I suppose. :-D
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
Links is highly ambigious, hyperlinks less so. Links may be any sort of reference or asocciation. It may be "backwards" screws/nuts. It may be a radio beam. It may be a fragment of a chain. There are thousands of ambiguous terms that we still manage to handle. In most cases, we get the right understanding from context. In some contexts, two or more interpretations are equally valid. There is the classical example: "You are right" - "right" is unambiguous in this context, right? But the statement was made at a tennis court, with two couples. So the complete statement is "You are right. I am left". Is the understanding of "right" still the same? Now at this tennis court, there are actually three couples who play around. So the statement uttered is not yet complete - it could either be: "You are right. I am left. She is middle." The second meaning of "right" prevails. Or they may be taking a brief rest, and one of the guys tells "You are right. I am left. She is gone!". The last word in the third sentence completely reverses the meaning of the two preceding sentences. Hooray for ambiguous terms!
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Links is highly ambigious, hyperlinks less so. Links may be any sort of reference or asocciation. It may be "backwards" screws/nuts. It may be a radio beam. It may be a fragment of a chain. There are thousands of ambiguous terms that we still manage to handle. In most cases, we get the right understanding from context. In some contexts, two or more interpretations are equally valid. There is the classical example: "You are right" - "right" is unambiguous in this context, right? But the statement was made at a tennis court, with two couples. So the complete statement is "You are right. I am left". Is the understanding of "right" still the same? Now at this tennis court, there are actually three couples who play around. So the statement uttered is not yet complete - it could either be: "You are right. I am left. She is middle." The second meaning of "right" prevails. Or they may be taking a brief rest, and one of the guys tells "You are right. I am left. She is gone!". The last word in the third sentence completely reverses the meaning of the two preceding sentences. Hooray for ambiguous terms!
Proof Positive that AI will ultimately fail ( OR AI interpretations will rule and we will be assimilated into the data)
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Marc Clifton wrote:
still calls it a "Hyperlink"
I guess I did not get the memo that they are called something different now. :doh:
Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.
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Proof Positive that AI will ultimately fail ( OR AI interpretations will rule and we will be assimilated into the data)
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Let's not forget that a significant part of jokes are based on ambiguity. I don't want to loose that!
"Thought of the Day" posts ca. 11:00 EST. In the lounge yet all the way from Whales. . . . . be there . . .
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Sander Rossel wrote:
But what's that weird save icon?
Someone one here (I'm sure he/she'll jump in) said his kid saw a floppy disk, and asked him, "why did you print a Save icon with your 3D printer?"... I'm surely misremembering details...but you get the idea.
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Links is highly ambigious, hyperlinks less so. Links may be any sort of reference or asocciation. It may be "backwards" screws/nuts. It may be a radio beam. It may be a fragment of a chain. There are thousands of ambiguous terms that we still manage to handle. In most cases, we get the right understanding from context. In some contexts, two or more interpretations are equally valid. There is the classical example: "You are right" - "right" is unambiguous in this context, right? But the statement was made at a tennis court, with two couples. So the complete statement is "You are right. I am left". Is the understanding of "right" still the same? Now at this tennis court, there are actually three couples who play around. So the statement uttered is not yet complete - it could either be: "You are right. I am left. She is middle." The second meaning of "right" prevails. Or they may be taking a brief rest, and one of the guys tells "You are right. I am left. She is gone!". The last word in the third sentence completely reverses the meaning of the two preceding sentences. Hooray for ambiguous terms!
I'm happy you did not go on with "play around" as being ambiguous.
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They could have used a grave stone, to represent permanent storage.