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  • M Marc Clifton

    Apparently some recent update made the horizontal scrollbar "auto-hide". So first you have to mouse-hover near it. But then the "resize window" up/down arrow shows up. It appears there is about a 2 pixel high region near the top of the horizontal scrollbar that is actually useable. I remember when these hidden scrollbars showed up in Ubuntu. Pretty much the reason I ditched Ubuntu. Such a time waster. Move mouse, hover, wait, click, oops, moved mouse when clicked, repeat.

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    Rage
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    This is the standard behaviour also for any vertical Windows (as in Windows OS) scrollbar. And is terribly annoying - who the elephant wants auto hiding scrollbars ???

    Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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    • M Marc Clifton

      Apparently some recent update made the horizontal scrollbar "auto-hide". So first you have to mouse-hover near it. But then the "resize window" up/down arrow shows up. It appears there is about a 2 pixel high region near the top of the horizontal scrollbar that is actually useable. I remember when these hidden scrollbars showed up in Ubuntu. Pretty much the reason I ditched Ubuntu. Such a time waster. Move mouse, hover, wait, click, oops, moved mouse when clicked, repeat.

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      Forogar
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      See also my rant: The Lounge[^] which includes complaints about invisible scroll bars.

      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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      • M Marc Clifton

        Paddington Bear wrote:

        Why don't you just disable the scrollbar auto-hide? Or am I missing something?

        Googling exactly that, it doesn't seem possible. The most recent post I found talks about making it taller and a different color, but being able to always show it is one of those features people want but nobody has implemented. Apparently. My google-fu could be off.

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        Richard Deeming
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        vscode settings - Make horizontal scrollbar more visible in Visual Studio code - Stack Overflow[^] vscode settings - How to make scrollbars wider in Visual Studio Code? - Stack Overflow[^] You'll need to manually open %APPDATA%\Code\User\settings.json, since the settings editor doesn't know about these properties.

        {
        ...
        "editor.scrollbar.horizontal": "visible",
        "editor.scrollbar.horizontalScrollbarSize": 20
        }

        That at least makes it taller and always visible.


        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

        "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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        • R Rage

          This is the standard behaviour also for any vertical Windows (as in Windows OS) scrollbar. And is terribly annoying - who the elephant wants auto hiding scrollbars ???

          Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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          Rage wrote:

          This is the standard behaviour also for any vertical Windows (as in Windows OS) scrollbar. And is terribly annoying - who the elephant wants auto hiding scrollbars ???

          The same people who thought turning Windows into a tablet OS was a good idea. They still haven't turned the clock back far enough.

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          • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

            vscode settings - Make horizontal scrollbar more visible in Visual Studio code - Stack Overflow[^] vscode settings - How to make scrollbars wider in Visual Studio Code? - Stack Overflow[^] You'll need to manually open %APPDATA%\Code\User\settings.json, since the settings editor doesn't know about these properties.

            {
            ...
            "editor.scrollbar.horizontal": "visible",
            "editor.scrollbar.horizontalScrollbarSize": 20
            }

            That at least makes it taller and always visible.


            "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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            Marc Clifton
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            Cool. A crappy workaround (now I have a scrollbar 20 pixels high, yes I could make it shorter) for stupid UX design. But not wanting to shoot the messenger, thank you! :-D

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            • M Marc Clifton

              Apparently some recent update made the horizontal scrollbar "auto-hide". So first you have to mouse-hover near it. But then the "resize window" up/down arrow shows up. It appears there is about a 2 pixel high region near the top of the horizontal scrollbar that is actually useable. I remember when these hidden scrollbars showed up in Ubuntu. Pretty much the reason I ditched Ubuntu. Such a time waster. Move mouse, hover, wait, click, oops, moved mouse when clicked, repeat.

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              Mike Hankey
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              It's as frustrating as spending 20 minutes trying to find your glasses when they're on top of your head. Dammit now I forgot what I was going to do.

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              • M Mike Hankey

                It's as frustrating as spending 20 minutes trying to find your glasses when they're on top of your head. Dammit now I forgot what I was going to do.

                Monday starts Diarrhea awareness week, runs until Friday! JaxCoder.com

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                Mark_Wallace
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                Mike Hankey wrote:

                It's as frustrating as spending 20 minutes trying to find your glasses when they're on top of your head. Dammit now I forgot what I was going to do.

                WE have the advanced technology required to ameliorate that problem. It's called "a piece of string".

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                • M Mark_Wallace

                  Mike Hankey wrote:

                  It's as frustrating as spending 20 minutes trying to find your glasses when they're on top of your head. Dammit now I forgot what I was going to do.

                  WE have the advanced technology required to ameliorate that problem. It's called "a piece of string".

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  Mike Hankey
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                  I'll have to research the string thing. :)

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    Apparently some recent update made the horizontal scrollbar "auto-hide". So first you have to mouse-hover near it. But then the "resize window" up/down arrow shows up. It appears there is about a 2 pixel high region near the top of the horizontal scrollbar that is actually useable. I remember when these hidden scrollbars showed up in Ubuntu. Pretty much the reason I ditched Ubuntu. Such a time waster. Move mouse, hover, wait, click, oops, moved mouse when clicked, repeat.

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                    I was so going to rant about this a few months ago when I started using VSC (Visual Studio Code). You explain the problem exactly. It takes a moment for it to appear and in that moment you click the edge of the window!!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad: It's so annoying!!!

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                    • M Marc Clifton

                      Apparently some recent update made the horizontal scrollbar "auto-hide". So first you have to mouse-hover near it. But then the "resize window" up/down arrow shows up. It appears there is about a 2 pixel high region near the top of the horizontal scrollbar that is actually useable. I remember when these hidden scrollbars showed up in Ubuntu. Pretty much the reason I ditched Ubuntu. Such a time waster. Move mouse, hover, wait, click, oops, moved mouse when clicked, repeat.

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                      ???? My VS2019 is up to date and shows the horizontal scroll bar by default. :confused:

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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        Paddington Bear wrote:

                        Why don't you just disable the scrollbar auto-hide? Or am I missing something?

                        Googling exactly that, it doesn't seem possible. The most recent post I found talks about making it taller and a different color, but being able to always show it is one of those features people want but nobody has implemented. Apparently. My google-fu could be off.

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                        Paddington Bear
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                        How to keep scrollbars always visible on Windows 10 April 2018 Update[^] This is one of the first things I do on a new Win 10 machine/installation. I've not yet found a way to stop those auto reboots after updates...

                        It goes without saying

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                        • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

                          They're trying to train you to break lines at a reasonable location so that you don't need horizontal scroll bars.

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                          Stefan_Lang
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                          Or just resize your window across three monitors: when your editor is 5000 pixels wide, you won't need a scroll bar. ;P

                          GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)

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                          • M Marc Clifton

                            Apparently some recent update made the horizontal scrollbar "auto-hide". So first you have to mouse-hover near it. But then the "resize window" up/down arrow shows up. It appears there is about a 2 pixel high region near the top of the horizontal scrollbar that is actually useable. I remember when these hidden scrollbars showed up in Ubuntu. Pretty much the reason I ditched Ubuntu. Such a time waster. Move mouse, hover, wait, click, oops, moved mouse when clicked, repeat.

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                            But .. why do you need to see the scroll bar? Simply hold Shift and use the scroll wheel to scroll horizontally

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                              But .. why do you need to see the scroll bar? Simply hold Shift and use the scroll wheel to scroll horizontally

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                              this has absolutely MADE MY DAY - who knew that shift-scroll was even a thing - thank you

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                              • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                                vscode settings - Make horizontal scrollbar more visible in Visual Studio code - Stack Overflow[^] vscode settings - How to make scrollbars wider in Visual Studio Code? - Stack Overflow[^] You'll need to manually open %APPDATA%\Code\User\settings.json, since the settings editor doesn't know about these properties.

                                {
                                ...
                                "editor.scrollbar.horizontal": "visible",
                                "editor.scrollbar.horizontalScrollbarSize": 20
                                }

                                That at least makes it taller and always visible.


                                "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                                Yay, editing obscure json config files to get it to do (almost) exactly what you want - Windows is slowly, but surely, turning into Linux!

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                                  Or just resize your window across three monitors: when your editor is 5000 pixels wide, you won't need a scroll bar. ;P

                                  GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)

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                                  Greg Utas
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                                  Won't work for me. My wife took over my large desk, so I use my laptop on a little one! She has two monitors, so I'll thank you not to give her any ideas! :laugh:

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                                  • A alang_icon

                                    Yay, editing obscure json config files to get it to do (almost) exactly what you want - Windows is slowly, but surely, turning into Linux!

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                                    Jeroen_R
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                                    That specific json isn't really obscure. It's the one that is behind the settings screen (user tab)

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                                    • M Marc Clifton

                                      Apparently some recent update made the horizontal scrollbar "auto-hide". So first you have to mouse-hover near it. But then the "resize window" up/down arrow shows up. It appears there is about a 2 pixel high region near the top of the horizontal scrollbar that is actually useable. I remember when these hidden scrollbars showed up in Ubuntu. Pretty much the reason I ditched Ubuntu. Such a time waster. Move mouse, hover, wait, click, oops, moved mouse when clicked, repeat.

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                                      obermd
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                                      XEROX PARC established visible scroll bars whenever the display area was larger than the window. This is a great visual that there's more information than can be displayed. Whoever decided it was a good idea to change this design is an idiot.

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                                      • M Marc Clifton

                                        Apparently some recent update made the horizontal scrollbar "auto-hide". So first you have to mouse-hover near it. But then the "resize window" up/down arrow shows up. It appears there is about a 2 pixel high region near the top of the horizontal scrollbar that is actually useable. I remember when these hidden scrollbars showed up in Ubuntu. Pretty much the reason I ditched Ubuntu. Such a time waster. Move mouse, hover, wait, click, oops, moved mouse when clicked, repeat.

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                                        maze3
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                                        I think it was IE that had a resized scroll bar when hover over it. A design decision that for some seems great, but for me control elements with shape transforms are just distracting

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                                        • M Marc Clifton

                                          Apparently some recent update made the horizontal scrollbar "auto-hide". So first you have to mouse-hover near it. But then the "resize window" up/down arrow shows up. It appears there is about a 2 pixel high region near the top of the horizontal scrollbar that is actually useable. I remember when these hidden scrollbars showed up in Ubuntu. Pretty much the reason I ditched Ubuntu. Such a time waster. Move mouse, hover, wait, click, oops, moved mouse when clicked, repeat.

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                                          Yeah, auto-hidden scrollbars are the worst. I want an at-a-glance indication if there's more context I need to be aware of.

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