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  • F Forogar

    I have been a professional programmer/developer/whatever since 1980. I wrote my first working program in 1975 (it worked first time, and the rest is history). I know a lot of stuff, I have forgotten more stuff than a lot of people know, I have a PhD in CS and have worked every position (in five countries and two continents) from Junior Programmer on a mainframe to Director of Software Development in a couple of companies doing everything from expert systems to language interpreters to tape robot control. I have written standards documents at a lot of companies and trained many, many developers in HTML, XML, multi-threading, and other useful stuff. I have now taken a position as a Senior Software Engineer in the government as a sort of retirement job (the medical and pension plans are great!). Then a member of my team insists on plugging React into our huge web-based intranet system, breaks everything in sight but still insists he is right and we should all change everything to fit his new idea of how things should be done. In addition he spends at least half of every code-review explaining why our established naming conventions should be changed to the way he does it because he read an article by someone who worked on Farcebook who suggested some conventions. My question is: Where is the best place to bury a body? Just asking for a friend. ;P [Update] Our wonderful manager has moved him to another team. The complaints have already started. Now I am really asking for a friend!

    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    Fortunately, I live in a desert, so that's half the solution right there.

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    • P PIEBALDconsult

      Fortunately, I live in a desert, so that's half the solution right there.

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      Are you volunteering to dispose of the "package"?

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      • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

        Are you volunteering to dispose of the "package"?

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        More like location scouting for a finder's fee.

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        • F Forogar

          I have been a professional programmer/developer/whatever since 1980. I wrote my first working program in 1975 (it worked first time, and the rest is history). I know a lot of stuff, I have forgotten more stuff than a lot of people know, I have a PhD in CS and have worked every position (in five countries and two continents) from Junior Programmer on a mainframe to Director of Software Development in a couple of companies doing everything from expert systems to language interpreters to tape robot control. I have written standards documents at a lot of companies and trained many, many developers in HTML, XML, multi-threading, and other useful stuff. I have now taken a position as a Senior Software Engineer in the government as a sort of retirement job (the medical and pension plans are great!). Then a member of my team insists on plugging React into our huge web-based intranet system, breaks everything in sight but still insists he is right and we should all change everything to fit his new idea of how things should be done. In addition he spends at least half of every code-review explaining why our established naming conventions should be changed to the way he does it because he read an article by someone who worked on Farcebook who suggested some conventions. My question is: Where is the best place to bury a body? Just asking for a friend. ;P [Update] Our wonderful manager has moved him to another team. The complaints have already started. Now I am really asking for a friend!

          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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          Gary R Wheeler
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          Forogar wrote:

          Where is the best place to bury a body

          No, no, no! You've got it all wrong. Take the head and mount it on a pike outside the castle walls as a warning to others. The rest of the body dump in a culvert somewhere nearby, dressed only in a pink tutu.

          Software Zen: delete this;

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          • F Forogar

            I have been a professional programmer/developer/whatever since 1980. I wrote my first working program in 1975 (it worked first time, and the rest is history). I know a lot of stuff, I have forgotten more stuff than a lot of people know, I have a PhD in CS and have worked every position (in five countries and two continents) from Junior Programmer on a mainframe to Director of Software Development in a couple of companies doing everything from expert systems to language interpreters to tape robot control. I have written standards documents at a lot of companies and trained many, many developers in HTML, XML, multi-threading, and other useful stuff. I have now taken a position as a Senior Software Engineer in the government as a sort of retirement job (the medical and pension plans are great!). Then a member of my team insists on plugging React into our huge web-based intranet system, breaks everything in sight but still insists he is right and we should all change everything to fit his new idea of how things should be done. In addition he spends at least half of every code-review explaining why our established naming conventions should be changed to the way he does it because he read an article by someone who worked on Farcebook who suggested some conventions. My question is: Where is the best place to bury a body? Just asking for a friend. ;P [Update] Our wonderful manager has moved him to another team. The complaints have already started. Now I am really asking for a friend!

            - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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            Forogar wrote:

            Where is the best place to bury a body? Just asking for a friend. ;-P

            The garden of any rival, ofc. Arguments; compare them, and both of you might learn.

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            • F Forogar

              I have been a professional programmer/developer/whatever since 1980. I wrote my first working program in 1975 (it worked first time, and the rest is history). I know a lot of stuff, I have forgotten more stuff than a lot of people know, I have a PhD in CS and have worked every position (in five countries and two continents) from Junior Programmer on a mainframe to Director of Software Development in a couple of companies doing everything from expert systems to language interpreters to tape robot control. I have written standards documents at a lot of companies and trained many, many developers in HTML, XML, multi-threading, and other useful stuff. I have now taken a position as a Senior Software Engineer in the government as a sort of retirement job (the medical and pension plans are great!). Then a member of my team insists on plugging React into our huge web-based intranet system, breaks everything in sight but still insists he is right and we should all change everything to fit his new idea of how things should be done. In addition he spends at least half of every code-review explaining why our established naming conventions should be changed to the way he does it because he read an article by someone who worked on Farcebook who suggested some conventions. My question is: Where is the best place to bury a body? Just asking for a friend. ;P [Update] Our wonderful manager has moved him to another team. The complaints have already started. Now I am really asking for a friend!

              - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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              If he's the lead, or there is no lead, then you're doomed.

              It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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              • R Ravi Bhavnani

                Forogar wrote:

                Where is the best place to bury a body?

                IMHO, that's the wrong approach.  I suggest instead promoting him to a position where he doesn't have access to source code. /ravi

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                :) Exactly

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                • F Forogar

                  I have been a professional programmer/developer/whatever since 1980. I wrote my first working program in 1975 (it worked first time, and the rest is history). I know a lot of stuff, I have forgotten more stuff than a lot of people know, I have a PhD in CS and have worked every position (in five countries and two continents) from Junior Programmer on a mainframe to Director of Software Development in a couple of companies doing everything from expert systems to language interpreters to tape robot control. I have written standards documents at a lot of companies and trained many, many developers in HTML, XML, multi-threading, and other useful stuff. I have now taken a position as a Senior Software Engineer in the government as a sort of retirement job (the medical and pension plans are great!). Then a member of my team insists on plugging React into our huge web-based intranet system, breaks everything in sight but still insists he is right and we should all change everything to fit his new idea of how things should be done. In addition he spends at least half of every code-review explaining why our established naming conventions should be changed to the way he does it because he read an article by someone who worked on Farcebook who suggested some conventions. My question is: Where is the best place to bury a body? Just asking for a friend. ;P [Update] Our wonderful manager has moved him to another team. The complaints have already started. Now I am really asking for a friend!

                  - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                  Roger Wright
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                  I've got 20 acres in Arizona, and a backhoe. Let's talk... ;)

                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                    I work for butchers, I could probably sell it as pork. However, if you make it look like an accident you may not have to hide it at all. However, that may be too... Humane. If you really want him to suffer, without breaking any laws, tell him you really need the application to print a report using Crystal Reports and he's the one who should make it because no one else is smart enough.

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                    Sander Rossel wrote:

                    you really need the application to print a report using Crystal Reports in VB6 and he's the one who should make it because no one else is smart enough.

                    FTFY!

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                    • F Forogar

                      I have been a professional programmer/developer/whatever since 1980. I wrote my first working program in 1975 (it worked first time, and the rest is history). I know a lot of stuff, I have forgotten more stuff than a lot of people know, I have a PhD in CS and have worked every position (in five countries and two continents) from Junior Programmer on a mainframe to Director of Software Development in a couple of companies doing everything from expert systems to language interpreters to tape robot control. I have written standards documents at a lot of companies and trained many, many developers in HTML, XML, multi-threading, and other useful stuff. I have now taken a position as a Senior Software Engineer in the government as a sort of retirement job (the medical and pension plans are great!). Then a member of my team insists on plugging React into our huge web-based intranet system, breaks everything in sight but still insists he is right and we should all change everything to fit his new idea of how things should be done. In addition he spends at least half of every code-review explaining why our established naming conventions should be changed to the way he does it because he read an article by someone who worked on Farcebook who suggested some conventions. My question is: Where is the best place to bury a body? Just asking for a friend. ;P [Update] Our wonderful manager has moved him to another team. The complaints have already started. Now I am really asking for a friend!

                      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                      So, you think he is over_react_ing.

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                      • F Forogar

                        I have been a professional programmer/developer/whatever since 1980. I wrote my first working program in 1975 (it worked first time, and the rest is history). I know a lot of stuff, I have forgotten more stuff than a lot of people know, I have a PhD in CS and have worked every position (in five countries and two continents) from Junior Programmer on a mainframe to Director of Software Development in a couple of companies doing everything from expert systems to language interpreters to tape robot control. I have written standards documents at a lot of companies and trained many, many developers in HTML, XML, multi-threading, and other useful stuff. I have now taken a position as a Senior Software Engineer in the government as a sort of retirement job (the medical and pension plans are great!). Then a member of my team insists on plugging React into our huge web-based intranet system, breaks everything in sight but still insists he is right and we should all change everything to fit his new idea of how things should be done. In addition he spends at least half of every code-review explaining why our established naming conventions should be changed to the way he does it because he read an article by someone who worked on Farcebook who suggested some conventions. My question is: Where is the best place to bury a body? Just asking for a friend. ;P [Update] Our wonderful manager has moved him to another team. The complaints have already started. Now I am really asking for a friend!

                        - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                        Abbas A Ali
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                        Its a bit amazing and scary at the same time, how much traction a murderous idea is getting by people of profession which are generally known as introverts and socially awkward. Then again that might be the reason why. I may just be scared because I'm the know-it-all in my team :^)

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                        • F Forogar

                          I have been a professional programmer/developer/whatever since 1980. I wrote my first working program in 1975 (it worked first time, and the rest is history). I know a lot of stuff, I have forgotten more stuff than a lot of people know, I have a PhD in CS and have worked every position (in five countries and two continents) from Junior Programmer on a mainframe to Director of Software Development in a couple of companies doing everything from expert systems to language interpreters to tape robot control. I have written standards documents at a lot of companies and trained many, many developers in HTML, XML, multi-threading, and other useful stuff. I have now taken a position as a Senior Software Engineer in the government as a sort of retirement job (the medical and pension plans are great!). Then a member of my team insists on plugging React into our huge web-based intranet system, breaks everything in sight but still insists he is right and we should all change everything to fit his new idea of how things should be done. In addition he spends at least half of every code-review explaining why our established naming conventions should be changed to the way he does it because he read an article by someone who worked on Farcebook who suggested some conventions. My question is: Where is the best place to bury a body? Just asking for a friend. ;P [Update] Our wonderful manager has moved him to another team. The complaints have already started. Now I am really asking for a friend!

                          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                          Mark_Wallace
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                          Just stick the body in the cabinet with all the VB4, PSP3, VS Boston, adobe acrobat, foxpro, etc. discs. No-one will happen across it even by accident, there. The cupboard with all the old ps2 cables, memory sticks, floppy drives, etc. is riskier, because some people use old CD drives as bases, to lift their monitors a bit higher. [ edit: the second sentence was a bit too "even" ]

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                            Sander Rossel wrote:

                            you really need the application to print a report using Crystal Reports in VB6 and he's the one who should make it because no one else is smart enough.

                            FTFY!

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                            DJ van Wyk
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                            And the bulk of the business logic must be done in VBA, with no plugins allowed.

                            My plan is to live forever ... so far so good

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                            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                              Pig farm. Cut it up, they'll eat the bits quite happily. Apparently.

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                              Dominic Burford
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                              That was Brick Tops favourite disposal method in the film Snatch :)

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                              • A Abbas A Ali

                                Its a bit amazing and scary at the same time, how much traction a murderous idea is getting by people of profession which are generally known as introverts and socially awkward. Then again that might be the reason why. I may just be scared because I'm the know-it-all in my team :^)

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                                Pitchforks at the ready everyone, we got another one over here :laugh:

                                "There are two ways of constructing a software design: One way is to make it so simple that there are obviously no deficiencies, and the other way is to make it so complicated that there are no obvious deficiencies. The first method is far more difficult." - C.A.R. Hoare Home | LinkedIn | Google+ | Twitter

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                                • R Ravi Bhavnani

                                  Forogar wrote:

                                  Where is the best place to bury a body?

                                  IMHO, that's the wrong approach.  I suggest instead promoting him to a position where he doesn't have access to source code. /ravi

                                  My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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                                  :-D :thumbsup:

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                                    And the bulk of the business logic must be done in VBA, with no plugins allowed.

                                    My plan is to live forever ... so far so good

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                                    Sander Rossel
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                                    We're going to need some censorship here X|

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                                    • F Forogar

                                      I have been a professional programmer/developer/whatever since 1980. I wrote my first working program in 1975 (it worked first time, and the rest is history). I know a lot of stuff, I have forgotten more stuff than a lot of people know, I have a PhD in CS and have worked every position (in five countries and two continents) from Junior Programmer on a mainframe to Director of Software Development in a couple of companies doing everything from expert systems to language interpreters to tape robot control. I have written standards documents at a lot of companies and trained many, many developers in HTML, XML, multi-threading, and other useful stuff. I have now taken a position as a Senior Software Engineer in the government as a sort of retirement job (the medical and pension plans are great!). Then a member of my team insists on plugging React into our huge web-based intranet system, breaks everything in sight but still insists he is right and we should all change everything to fit his new idea of how things should be done. In addition he spends at least half of every code-review explaining why our established naming conventions should be changed to the way he does it because he read an article by someone who worked on Farcebook who suggested some conventions. My question is: Where is the best place to bury a body? Just asking for a friend. ;P [Update] Our wonderful manager has moved him to another team. The complaints have already started. Now I am really asking for a friend!

                                      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                                      Martijn Smitshoek
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                                      You should be free to state that "persistence of an opinion is not the same as knowledge or professionalism". However, the problem with these folks is that summary execution does not help, and they will keep talking even when the head is chronically severed from the body. We call them "zweefteef" but I can't seem to find a suitable translation.

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                                      • M Martijn Smitshoek

                                        You should be free to state that "persistence of an opinion is not the same as knowledge or professionalism". However, the problem with these folks is that summary execution does not help, and they will keep talking even when the head is chronically severed from the body. We call them "zweefteef" but I can't seem to find a suitable translation.

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                                        RickZeeland
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                                        "Airhead" maybe? :-\

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                                        • D Dominic Burford

                                          Pitchforks at the ready everyone, we got another one over here :laugh:

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                                          And don't forget the scythes :-\

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