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  • A agolddog

    Just playing devil's advocate here: is it possible he's right (just overly enthusiastic)? In my example, I got to my current place where these HPCs are, "MVC is too hard", "Linq makes weird queries and is too hard", "ADO.NET is better than EF", etc, etc. Then running around babbling about adding memory to SQL Server because their crappy sprocs return every record that qualifies for a search, rather than one page's worth of things. Rewrote our main search into EF/linq, a little skip/take action later, our SQL memory problem disappeared. I don't know if React is a good or bad thing. We need to keep moving forward, but in a sensible manner. Maybe it should be added, but as a project unto itself? As opposed to, "I'm making this other change which doesn't require react, but while I'm up, I'll throw that in."

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    Forogar
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    We use MVC, Linq and EF already. We aren't stick-in-the-muds but sometimes the latest shiny thing doesn't fit well with our other shiny things.

    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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      We use MVC, Linq and EF already. We aren't stick-in-the-muds but sometimes the latest shiny thing doesn't fit well with our other shiny things.

      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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      agolddog
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      Yep, I agree. There has to be an actual need for thing X, not just that "I read about this, it's supposed to be the best thing ever." I have no experience with React, so can't comment there. Sounds like you're taking a good approach then, and this person needs to be roped in.

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      • A agolddog

        Yep, I agree. There has to be an actual need for thing X, not just that "I read about this, it's supposed to be the best thing ever." I have no experience with React, so can't comment there. Sounds like you're taking a good approach then, and this person needs to be roped in.

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        Forogar
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        There certainly should be rope involved anyway! ;P

        - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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        • F Forogar

          He's had several (plus one from our friendly manager) but he doesn't seem to notice.

          - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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          MKJCP
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          I feel your pain. I am playing the part of friendly manager for such a case today. Can't live with him, can't live without him.:mad:

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          • F Forogar

            I have been a professional programmer/developer/whatever since 1980. I wrote my first working program in 1975 (it worked first time, and the rest is history). I know a lot of stuff, I have forgotten more stuff than a lot of people know, I have a PhD in CS and have worked every position (in five countries and two continents) from Junior Programmer on a mainframe to Director of Software Development in a couple of companies doing everything from expert systems to language interpreters to tape robot control. I have written standards documents at a lot of companies and trained many, many developers in HTML, XML, multi-threading, and other useful stuff. I have now taken a position as a Senior Software Engineer in the government as a sort of retirement job (the medical and pension plans are great!). Then a member of my team insists on plugging React into our huge web-based intranet system, breaks everything in sight but still insists he is right and we should all change everything to fit his new idea of how things should be done. In addition he spends at least half of every code-review explaining why our established naming conventions should be changed to the way he does it because he read an article by someone who worked on Farcebook who suggested some conventions. My question is: Where is the best place to bury a body? Just asking for a friend. ;P [Update] Our wonderful manager has moved him to another team. The complaints have already started. Now I am really asking for a friend!

            - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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            Daniel Wilianto
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            Yeah, scrap everything off an existing working program, and recode it in React. React is everything! For kids these days...

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            • R RossMW

              You don't hide it, You hang it out in plain view as a warning to the next upstart.

              A Fine is a Tax for doing something wrong A Tax is a Fine for doing something good.

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              jackbrownii
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              Pour encourager les autres.

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              • F Forogar

                I have been a professional programmer/developer/whatever since 1980. I wrote my first working program in 1975 (it worked first time, and the rest is history). I know a lot of stuff, I have forgotten more stuff than a lot of people know, I have a PhD in CS and have worked every position (in five countries and two continents) from Junior Programmer on a mainframe to Director of Software Development in a couple of companies doing everything from expert systems to language interpreters to tape robot control. I have written standards documents at a lot of companies and trained many, many developers in HTML, XML, multi-threading, and other useful stuff. I have now taken a position as a Senior Software Engineer in the government as a sort of retirement job (the medical and pension plans are great!). Then a member of my team insists on plugging React into our huge web-based intranet system, breaks everything in sight but still insists he is right and we should all change everything to fit his new idea of how things should be done. In addition he spends at least half of every code-review explaining why our established naming conventions should be changed to the way he does it because he read an article by someone who worked on Farcebook who suggested some conventions. My question is: Where is the best place to bury a body? Just asking for a friend. ;P [Update] Our wonderful manager has moved him to another team. The complaints have already started. Now I am really asking for a friend!

                - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                Alan Balkany
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                First take his suggestions seriously; he may know some things you don't. If his suggestion is impractical, calmly explain to him why his suggestion won't be used. Problem solved.

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                • A Alan Balkany

                  First take his suggestions seriously; he may know some things you don't. If his suggestion is impractical, calmly explain to him why his suggestion won't be used. Problem solved.

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                  Forogar
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                  We did, he didn't, it was, we did, it wasn't. He got transferred - problem solved!

                  - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                  • F Forogar

                    I have been a professional programmer/developer/whatever since 1980. I wrote my first working program in 1975 (it worked first time, and the rest is history). I know a lot of stuff, I have forgotten more stuff than a lot of people know, I have a PhD in CS and have worked every position (in five countries and two continents) from Junior Programmer on a mainframe to Director of Software Development in a couple of companies doing everything from expert systems to language interpreters to tape robot control. I have written standards documents at a lot of companies and trained many, many developers in HTML, XML, multi-threading, and other useful stuff. I have now taken a position as a Senior Software Engineer in the government as a sort of retirement job (the medical and pension plans are great!). Then a member of my team insists on plugging React into our huge web-based intranet system, breaks everything in sight but still insists he is right and we should all change everything to fit his new idea of how things should be done. In addition he spends at least half of every code-review explaining why our established naming conventions should be changed to the way he does it because he read an article by someone who worked on Farcebook who suggested some conventions. My question is: Where is the best place to bury a body? Just asking for a friend. ;P [Update] Our wonderful manager has moved him to another team. The complaints have already started. Now I am really asking for a friend!

                    - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                    John R Shaw
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                    Sounds familiar. (true story) A previous company I worked for hired a fresh out of university engineer. He insisted that the engineers, with years of experience, who designed the whole system, did it all wrong, because that was not what he was taught in school. :doh: Funny, it had been working for a decade with almost no failures. Of course the fact that between FCC fines and customer contract failure costs (Thousands of dollars per minute of down time), there is a certain amount of intensive for doing it right. ;)

                    INTP "Program testing can be used to show the presence of bugs, but never to show their absence." - Edsger Dijkstra "I have never been lost, but I will admit to being confused for several weeks. " - Daniel Boone

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                    • F Forogar

                      I have been a professional programmer/developer/whatever since 1980. I wrote my first working program in 1975 (it worked first time, and the rest is history). I know a lot of stuff, I have forgotten more stuff than a lot of people know, I have a PhD in CS and have worked every position (in five countries and two continents) from Junior Programmer on a mainframe to Director of Software Development in a couple of companies doing everything from expert systems to language interpreters to tape robot control. I have written standards documents at a lot of companies and trained many, many developers in HTML, XML, multi-threading, and other useful stuff. I have now taken a position as a Senior Software Engineer in the government as a sort of retirement job (the medical and pension plans are great!). Then a member of my team insists on plugging React into our huge web-based intranet system, breaks everything in sight but still insists he is right and we should all change everything to fit his new idea of how things should be done. In addition he spends at least half of every code-review explaining why our established naming conventions should be changed to the way he does it because he read an article by someone who worked on Farcebook who suggested some conventions. My question is: Where is the best place to bury a body? Just asking for a friend. ;P [Update] Our wonderful manager has moved him to another team. The complaints have already started. Now I am really asking for a friend!

                      - I would love to change the world, but they won’t give me the source code.

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                      EbenRoux
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                      I think it was on 9gag that I read something to the effect of first providing the police with an anonymous tip about a buried body at a certain location. After the police have dug up the spot and found nothing there you *then* go and bury the body in that exact spot. Chances are they are not going to be digging up that same spot again. Let me know if that worked for you :)

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