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    My university is undergoing quarantine. All the classes have been cancelled, midterms postponed and all. We can't avail any facilities like gym or squash courts (now where am I supposed to take out my frustration :mad: ). Worst is, we are being kicked out of hostels and forced to go home. Like why can't we do this quarantine thing at hostels and labs. I still have tons of work to finish. How am I supposed to do research at home? :| I had squash tournament going on and my team qualified for nationals which is a big thing at least for me but here we are with Corona......EVERYTHING cancelled. I was literally completely unbothered by the virus until now since I'm not afraid of dying or what so ever but this shut-down is making me go nuts now. I think this shut down is much worse than virus itself. Bankruptcy rate will go much higher than death rate. Whatever :|

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      My university is undergoing quarantine. All the classes have been cancelled, midterms postponed and all. We can't avail any facilities like gym or squash courts (now where am I supposed to take out my frustration :mad: ). Worst is, we are being kicked out of hostels and forced to go home. Like why can't we do this quarantine thing at hostels and labs. I still have tons of work to finish. How am I supposed to do research at home? :| I had squash tournament going on and my team qualified for nationals which is a big thing at least for me but here we are with Corona......EVERYTHING cancelled. I was literally completely unbothered by the virus until now since I'm not afraid of dying or what so ever but this shut-down is making me go nuts now. I think this shut down is much worse than virus itself. Bankruptcy rate will go much higher than death rate. Whatever :|

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      [DELETED] This isn't about young healthy people getting sick, this is about preventing the spread of a pandemic and limiting it's growth rate to that which medical facilities can cope with. Because it kills 3.5% of all infected persons, and if everyone on the planet gets infected that's around 250,000,000 people who die as a result. The slower it spreads, the better medical facilities can handle it, and the lower the death rate. And large (or even medium sized) groups of young people are a damn fine way to spread this around, particularly since it seems you can be infectious without showing symptoms. So stop whining about what are in the broad scheme of things minor hiccoughs, and think about your duties to your fellow human beings...

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      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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        [DELETED] This isn't about young healthy people getting sick, this is about preventing the spread of a pandemic and limiting it's growth rate to that which medical facilities can cope with. Because it kills 3.5% of all infected persons, and if everyone on the planet gets infected that's around 250,000,000 people who die as a result. The slower it spreads, the better medical facilities can handle it, and the lower the death rate. And large (or even medium sized) groups of young people are a damn fine way to spread this around, particularly since it seems you can be infectious without showing symptoms. So stop whining about what are in the broad scheme of things minor hiccoughs, and think about your duties to your fellow human beings...

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        Nothing to see here.

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          My university is undergoing quarantine. All the classes have been cancelled, midterms postponed and all. We can't avail any facilities like gym or squash courts (now where am I supposed to take out my frustration :mad: ). Worst is, we are being kicked out of hostels and forced to go home. Like why can't we do this quarantine thing at hostels and labs. I still have tons of work to finish. How am I supposed to do research at home? :| I had squash tournament going on and my team qualified for nationals which is a big thing at least for me but here we are with Corona......EVERYTHING cancelled. I was literally completely unbothered by the virus until now since I'm not afraid of dying or what so ever but this shut-down is making me go nuts now. I think this shut down is much worse than virus itself. Bankruptcy rate will go much higher than death rate. Whatever :|

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          Please accept my apologies, I shouldn't have referred to you as a "self serving pillock" - that was rude of me, and I am sorry I did so. I will remove it from my post, and will not refer to you as such again.

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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            Nothing to see here.

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            You're right, and I have removed it. :-O An overreaction on my part: I should have remembered that the advice "never compose email while snarling" also applies to forum posts.

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
            "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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              My university is undergoing quarantine. All the classes have been cancelled, midterms postponed and all. We can't avail any facilities like gym or squash courts (now where am I supposed to take out my frustration :mad: ). Worst is, we are being kicked out of hostels and forced to go home. Like why can't we do this quarantine thing at hostels and labs. I still have tons of work to finish. How am I supposed to do research at home? :| I had squash tournament going on and my team qualified for nationals which is a big thing at least for me but here we are with Corona......EVERYTHING cancelled. I was literally completely unbothered by the virus until now since I'm not afraid of dying or what so ever but this shut-down is making me go nuts now. I think this shut down is much worse than virus itself. Bankruptcy rate will go much higher than death rate. Whatever :|

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              Elsewhere, students are jumping in joy that their university classes are cancelled, shouting 'Jai Corona' (Victory to Corona)! Watch this video Students Chant 'Jai Corona' After IIT Delhi Shuts Operation | ABP News - YouTube[^] (Video is in Hindi, but you will anyway notice the students' joy).

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                You're right, and I have removed it. :-O An overreaction on my part: I should have remembered that the advice "never compose email while snarling" also applies to forum posts.

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                We've all done it.

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                  [DELETED] This isn't about young healthy people getting sick, this is about preventing the spread of a pandemic and limiting it's growth rate to that which medical facilities can cope with. Because it kills 3.5% of all infected persons, and if everyone on the planet gets infected that's around 250,000,000 people who die as a result. The slower it spreads, the better medical facilities can handle it, and the lower the death rate. And large (or even medium sized) groups of young people are a damn fine way to spread this around, particularly since it seems you can be infectious without showing symptoms. So stop whining about what are in the broad scheme of things minor hiccoughs, and think about your duties to your fellow human beings...

                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                  If there is a spread in universities and schools, shutting them down is the most stupid thing you can do. Now all sick students will go home to their parents...

                  Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                    [DELETED] This isn't about young healthy people getting sick, this is about preventing the spread of a pandemic and limiting it's growth rate to that which medical facilities can cope with. Because it kills 3.5% of all infected persons, and if everyone on the planet gets infected that's around 250,000,000 people who die as a result. The slower it spreads, the better medical facilities can handle it, and the lower the death rate. And large (or even medium sized) groups of young people are a damn fine way to spread this around, particularly since it seems you can be infectious without showing symptoms. So stop whining about what are in the broad scheme of things minor hiccoughs, and think about your duties to your fellow human beings...

                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                    OriginalGriff wrote:

                    So stop whining about what are in the broad scheme of things minor hiccoughs, and think about your duties to your fellow human beings...

                    You're right there but I, along with my professor was working on a ML project related to pandemics and as per plan it could have been in the favor of the situation but we had to stop. Also we're on different pages here. So many people are still not necessarily taking precautionary health measures which perhaps could help more in controlling the situation than just shutting everything down. I'm also concerned how this shut down is going to affect the world economy. But I understand that we're living in different parts of the world which is why we might have different perspectives. :)

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                      If there is a spread in universities and schools, shutting them down is the most stupid thing you can do. Now all sick students will go home to their parents...

                      Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                      The idea is to get them home before it spreads among them, and then out from there.

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                        If there is a spread in universities and schools, shutting them down is the most stupid thing you can do. Now all sick students will go home to their parents...

                        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                        Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                        Now all sick students will go home to their parents...

                        Exactly. How is that going to help the situation? :|

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                          Elsewhere, students are jumping in joy that their university classes are cancelled, shouting 'Jai Corona' (Victory to Corona)! Watch this video Students Chant 'Jai Corona' After IIT Delhi Shuts Operation | ABP News - YouTube[^] (Video is in Hindi, but you will anyway notice the students' joy).

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                          MehreenTahir
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                          Amarnath S wrote:

                          Video is in Hindi

                          I understand Hindi so that's not an issue. ;P Almost same happened here. After the announcement of shutdown, students came out for Khokha Rave (This is a special term used at my university for student gathering and dancing). Does that make any sense? :doh:

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                            The idea is to get them home before it spreads among them, and then out from there.

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                            And you think that will work? I think you will have a load of bored youth with nothing to do, that will start meeting up with each other anyway after a week or two, and still get sick. But now they live with their parents instead. <edit>after reading Amarnaths response below I realize I'm a bit optimistic here</edit>

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                              [DELETED] This isn't about young healthy people getting sick, this is about preventing the spread of a pandemic and limiting it's growth rate to that which medical facilities can cope with. Because it kills 3.5% of all infected persons, and if everyone on the planet gets infected that's around 250,000,000 people who die as a result. The slower it spreads, the better medical facilities can handle it, and the lower the death rate. And large (or even medium sized) groups of young people are a damn fine way to spread this around, particularly since it seems you can be infectious without showing symptoms. So stop whining about what are in the broad scheme of things minor hiccoughs, and think about your duties to your fellow human beings...

                              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                              The problem is that we have no vaccine... So how many month will you shut-in those are not in real danger? A year? It would be much better to separate those are in the danger zone and let others immune system do the work for them... It will create a lot of sick people, but most of them (the real majority) will go home for two weeks and done with it... When the percentage of inflected pass the 25% barrier we will see a magical slow-down of the spread... As for now the fact that isolation slows down the spread has no meaning if you intend to release the people from isolation in a few months now - we will be back to square one then...

                              "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

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                                Amarnath S wrote:

                                Video is in Hindi

                                I understand Hindi so that's not an issue. ;P Almost same happened here. After the announcement of shutdown, students came out for Khokha Rave (This is a special term used at my university for student gathering and dancing). Does that make any sense? :doh:

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                                Yes, it is an unfortunate situation. But, I feel the precautions are necessary, to curtail spread of the virus, at least till a reasonable cure/remedy is invented.

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                                  My university is undergoing quarantine. All the classes have been cancelled, midterms postponed and all. We can't avail any facilities like gym or squash courts (now where am I supposed to take out my frustration :mad: ). Worst is, we are being kicked out of hostels and forced to go home. Like why can't we do this quarantine thing at hostels and labs. I still have tons of work to finish. How am I supposed to do research at home? :| I had squash tournament going on and my team qualified for nationals which is a big thing at least for me but here we are with Corona......EVERYTHING cancelled. I was literally completely unbothered by the virus until now since I'm not afraid of dying or what so ever but this shut-down is making me go nuts now. I think this shut down is much worse than virus itself. Bankruptcy rate will go much higher than death rate. Whatever :|

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                                  You remember me my niece, who wrote to the minster of education to cancel - or at least shorten - summer vacation... She almost got killed for that :laugh:

                                  "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

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                                    The problem is that we have no vaccine... So how many month will you shut-in those are not in real danger? A year? It would be much better to separate those are in the danger zone and let others immune system do the work for them... It will create a lot of sick people, but most of them (the real majority) will go home for two weeks and done with it... When the percentage of inflected pass the 25% barrier we will see a magical slow-down of the spread... As for now the fact that isolation slows down the spread has no meaning if you intend to release the people from isolation in a few months now - we will be back to square one then...

                                    "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

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                                    No, the idea is to take the strain off the medical facilities by spreading the infection out over a longer period. If 1000 people get it on the same day, that's a lot of stress on limited resources. If the same 1000 people get it at a rate of ten a day, then the stress on resources is lower in the short term and it can be managed better. Instead of having 900 people on trolleys in corridors wondering when they get a share of the oxygen tank, you get a much smaller number on beds with "proper care". And bored students at home is one thing, bored students in a hostel full of other bored, randy, pisshead / dopehead students is entirely another! (Or had you forgotten your Uni days? :laugh: )

                                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

                                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                                    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                      No, the idea is to take the strain off the medical facilities by spreading the infection out over a longer period. If 1000 people get it on the same day, that's a lot of stress on limited resources. If the same 1000 people get it at a rate of ten a day, then the stress on resources is lower in the short term and it can be managed better. Instead of having 900 people on trolleys in corridors wondering when they get a share of the oxygen tank, you get a much smaller number on beds with "proper care". And bored students at home is one thing, bored students in a hostel full of other bored, randy, pisshead / dopehead students is entirely another! (Or had you forgotten your Uni days? :laugh: )

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                                      OriginalGriff wrote:

                                      And bored students at home is one thing, bored students in a hostel full of other bored, randy, pisshead / dopehead students is entirely another!

                                      My reference was to the working people - not those lazy students... :-) And bored students at home (4 of them) is something I have experience with from close... That's why I want to keep working at the office :laugh:

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                                      "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                                        And you think that will work? I think you will have a load of bored youth with nothing to do, that will start meeting up with each other anyway after a week or two, and still get sick. But now they live with their parents instead. <edit>after reading Amarnaths response below I realize I'm a bit optimistic here</edit>

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                                        Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                                        that will start meeting up with each other anyway after a week or two

                                        I believe this is less likely if they're home, because if they're still living around university, it's more tempting/easy to do so since most of your friends are living much more nearby. Even if you assume that everyone is responsible, student housing with shared accomodities seems like a good place to catch the virus. Sure, you're not with your parents, but you cannot guarantee complete separation of the younger and older generation -- some students could still go to their parents, and students also still have to go to stores to get food. It's unrealistic that different generations don't meet there. My university has moved all education activities to online platform, and asked students to go home if they could. So I'm home now and this is surely the place I'd rather be, despite being with my parents. It just feels safer for everyone.

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                                          My university is undergoing quarantine. All the classes have been cancelled, midterms postponed and all. We can't avail any facilities like gym or squash courts (now where am I supposed to take out my frustration :mad: ). Worst is, we are being kicked out of hostels and forced to go home. Like why can't we do this quarantine thing at hostels and labs. I still have tons of work to finish. How am I supposed to do research at home? :| I had squash tournament going on and my team qualified for nationals which is a big thing at least for me but here we are with Corona......EVERYTHING cancelled. I was literally completely unbothered by the virus until now since I'm not afraid of dying or what so ever but this shut-down is making me go nuts now. I think this shut down is much worse than virus itself. Bankruptcy rate will go much higher than death rate. Whatever :|

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                                          this whole corona thing is nothing to worry about, a flea on an elephant. it's the consequences of what happens next that will have the largest impact. RIP Dumbo. ... forget toilet paper, it's really not going to help with that!

                                          pestilence [ pes-tl-uh ns ] noun 1. a deadly or virulent epidemic disease. especially bubonic plague. 2. something that is considered harmful, destructive, or evil. Synonyms: pest, plague, people

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