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Why are people wearing masks in their own cars?

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  • Z ZurdoDev

    Eddy Vluggen wrote:

    and since you have no arguments, you agreeing is not even relevant.

    :doh: Wearing the mask can help me from not getting it if someone sneezed near me. Didn't realize I needed to make such a simple argument. But there it is. Or, to strengthen the argument, if it can be transmitted via breathing, then it protects me from those breathing around me.

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    Nelek
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    ZurdoDev wrote:

    Wearing the mask can help me from not getting it if someone sneezed near me.

    From the direct contact / landing of the "big" drops in your face yes (that is why we should wear glasses too).

    ZurdoDev wrote:

    if it can be transmitted via breathing, then it protects me from those breathing around me.

    Not really, Cotton / vlies / many materials are not that dense to block the tiny particles flying around. And neither are they protecting you of the vaccuum effect when you breath in if the particles are in suspension around the limits of the mask. In other words... they help to protect you, yes. But they don't protect you.

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      It would be a far better world if some folks could just mind their own effing business.

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      Joan M
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      But... do you keep the social distancing? huh? huh? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: I would like to be able to vote your post higher than the Empire State... :thumbsup:

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        ZurdoDev wrote:

        Why not?

        Same reasons as the flu. Do your own research, or pay me. Good luck, you'll need it if you didn't see this coming.

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        ZurdoDev
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        Once again you have gotten me. I fell for it. I actually thought you knew what you were talking about. It's amazing that masks are one way protectors. :laugh:

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          ZurdoDev wrote:

          Wearing the mask can help me from not getting it if someone sneezed near me.

          From the direct contact / landing of the "big" drops in your face yes (that is why we should wear glasses too).

          ZurdoDev wrote:

          if it can be transmitted via breathing, then it protects me from those breathing around me.

          Not really, Cotton / vlies / many materials are not that dense to block the tiny particles flying around. And neither are they protecting you of the vaccuum effect when you breath in if the particles are in suspension around the limits of the mask. In other words... they help to protect you, yes. But they don't protect you.

          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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          ZurdoDev
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          Nelek wrote:

          Cotton / vlies / many materials are not that dense to block the tiny particles flying around.

          Then they won't protect other people if you're wearing one and you sneeze.

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          • Z ZurdoDev

            Eddy Vluggen wrote:

            and since you have no arguments, you agreeing is not even relevant.

            :doh: Wearing the mask can help me from not getting it if someone sneezed near me. Didn't realize I needed to make such a simple argument. But there it is. Or, to strengthen the argument, if it can be transmitted via breathing, then it protects me from those breathing around me.

            Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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            Richard Andrew x64
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            I agree with you. If it doesn't protect the wearer, why then do the doctors and nurses wear it in the hospital?

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            • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

              I agree with you. If it doesn't protect the wearer, why then do the doctors and nurses wear it in the hospital?

              The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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              ZurdoDev
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              I'm struggling to understand how it can only be a one way mask. Won't let things out but will let things in? Seems strange.

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              • Z ZurdoDev

                I'm struggling to understand how it can only be a one way mask. Won't let things out but will let things in? Seems strange.

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                Richard Andrew x64
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                One explanation I heard recently is that the authorities wanted to prevent a shortage of PPE for the medical workers, so they set out to convince people that it wouldn't help prevent catching the virus.

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                  Lots of people haven't understood that the mask is not to protect themselves, but to protect other people. If you are not infected yourself, the mask is "essentially inessential". If you are infected, it helps to avoid that you do not spread the virus to others. Like if you were quarantined. We should be aware that you may be infected, and spread the virus, even if you have only very light symptoms. So if you suspect that you might possibly be infected, it might be a good idea to wear a mask, even at home to avoid being a virus fountain at home. My guess is that if you are living in the same household, the virus will unconditionally spread to all of you - masks or not.

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                  Member 7989122 wrote:

                  My guess is that if you are living in the same household, the virus will unconditionally spread to all of you

                  Logic would suggest that, but time and again I'm hearing "survivor" stories on the tv where one person in the household almost dies, their partner / children / others in the house don't even get it. Suggests that it's not as communicable as we perhaps think, and that just following basic "normal" hygiene (not coughing in people's faces, washing hands, i.e. basic common sense and good manners) is as much, if not more, important than the whole gloves / masks thing...?

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                    One explanation I heard recently is that the authorities wanted to prevent a shortage of PPE for the medical workers, so they set out to convince people that it wouldn't help prevent catching the virus.

                    The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                    ZurdoDev
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                    That's sinister, in a way. :)

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                    • Z ZurdoDev

                      Nelek wrote:

                      Cotton / vlies / many materials are not that dense to block the tiny particles flying around.

                      Then they won't protect other people if you're wearing one and you sneeze.

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                      Nelek
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                      They protect reducing the dispersion and hence the probability of infecting others, but they don't protect by totally avoiding it.

                      M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                      • Z ZurdoDev

                        I'm struggling to understand how it can only be a one way mask. Won't let things out but will let things in? Seems strange.

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                        Nelek
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                        The let the things out and in, only in less proportion.

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                          Member 7989122 wrote:

                          My guess is that if you are living in the same household, the virus will unconditionally spread to all of you

                          Logic would suggest that, but time and again I'm hearing "survivor" stories on the tv where one person in the household almost dies, their partner / children / others in the house don't even get it. Suggests that it's not as communicable as we perhaps think, and that just following basic "normal" hygiene (not coughing in people's faces, washing hands, i.e. basic common sense and good manners) is as much, if not more, important than the whole gloves / masks thing...?

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                          There are some indications that a large fraction of the public may have been corona infected without showing significant symptoms, and have become immune. But then, there are indications that the immunity may be quite short lived; several have been corona sick for the second time. It might very well be that those "not getting it" are indeed getting it, even though they do not show any symptoms. If they leave the house, they may be spreading it to whoever they meet. The other day there was a note in Norwegian newspapers about one lady who was quarantened: On day 13 of her isolation, the first symptoms appeared. Bottom line: We should make premature conclusions.

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                          • Z ZurdoDev

                            Just curious. Theories?

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                            MadMyche
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                            My theory is that the people that are doing this are doing it to reduce the amount of times they touch their face

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                              They protect reducing the dispersion and hence the probability of infecting others, but they don't protect by totally avoiding it.

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                              ZurdoDev
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                              Correct. :thumbsup:

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                              • M MadMyche

                                My theory is that the people that are doing this are doing it to reduce the amount of times they touch their face

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                                ZurdoDev
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                                MadMyche wrote:

                                My theory is that the people that are doing this are doing it to reduce the amount of times they touch their face

                                Could be. Although I remember reading a study a month or two ago that found people tend to touch their face MORE often when wearing a mask because it is uncomfortable and sweat builds up and itches, etc.

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                                  MadMyche wrote:

                                  My theory is that the people that are doing this are doing it to reduce the amount of times they touch their face

                                  Could be. Although I remember reading a study a month or two ago that found people tend to touch their face MORE often when wearing a mask because it is uncomfortable and sweat builds up and itches, etc.

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                                  kalberts
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                                  ZurdoDev wrote:

                                  people tend to touch their face MORE often when wearing a mask because it is uncomfortable and sweat builds up and itches, etc.

                                  As long as it is their own virus/bacteria, they may touch their face as much as they like. Problems occur only if your hands have been infected with some "foreign" virus, and essentially if that self-touching gives the virus a chance to jump from your fingers over to your nose / lips, from where it can move into your lungs. I guess that the risk of that is not 0%. But the mask makes it less probable that your infected fingers directly touch you nose / lips. Furthermore, I would think that those wearing a face mask are also among the most eager to keep social distance, and to clean their hands many times a day. Funny observation: Lots of grocery stores around here provide antibac at the entrance. Lots of customers use it on their way into the store. Then they grab a shopping cart (they are disinfected often, but for every new customer), and run all over the shop, opening cooler doors and touching shelves. Then they leave the store bringing along anything that they might have picked up on the visit. I never see a single one using the anticbac after the visit to the store! Sure, if you are infected yourself, it will reduce the risk of you spreading it to others. That's a good thought. But if you know that you are infected, you shouldn't go to the grocery store at all! People probably think of the antibac primarily as a way to protect themselves, and then they should use it on the way out, not on the way in!

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                                  • Z ZurdoDev

                                    Just curious. Theories?

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                                    Besm Allah wearing masks is a sign of our consideration to our heath. Corona Virus is a Risk, we are going to avoid. But we must know that, there are much more Risk in our life that we are take it for granted. This risk is ignorance of GOD, as the creator of us, the creator of corona virus, the creator of our life. From the islamic point of view, Death is a like a bridge to pass to resurrection. Let's think of our philosophy of existance :)

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                                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                      I do - when I have to go shopping it's normally two supermarkets: so I put the mask on before entering the first and take it off when I leave the second. I only have the one mask, and don't want to waste more (though Herself would give me them) so it gets shut in the boot until next time I shop. (Since the virus survives in paper for only two days apparently, it's safe to wear again next time.) Does try to fog up my glasses, but a tiny, tiny drop of washing up liquid wiped on and buffed off prevents that (I learned that one riding motorcycles - a misted up visor is not a lot of use, and the detergent removes the surface tension from the moisture, and it forms an even film instead of the droplets which fog the glass / plastic.)

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                                      Worth a go!

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                                      • Z ZurdoDev

                                        Slacker007 wrote:

                                        He wears his mask even in the house.

                                        Or maybe he's just a concerned citizen and does not want to MURDER!!!!!!! anybody. Geez, have a little sympathy. ;)

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                                        Who is he going to murder in his own car - himself?

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                                          Who is he going to murder in his own car - himself?

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                                          ZurdoDev
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                                          Dorsal wrote:

                                          Who is he going to murder in his own car - himself?

                                          Unlikely. But the response was to someone wearing it in the house.

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