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  • J JoeSox

    Mikel wrote: the speed of time is 1 second per second this would change, however, if dark matter exists correct? Like for example a black hole is proposed to slow down time. Later,
    JoeSox
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    Mikel
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    The more gravity slower time goes!!

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    • J JoeSox

      Mikel wrote: the speed of time is 1 second per second this would change, however, if dark matter exists correct? Like for example a black hole is proposed to slow down time. Later,
      JoeSox
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      geo_m
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      this is relative ;P if you will be inside the black hole, you will insist upon fact, that the black hole speeds up the time in rest of universe

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      • J JoeSox

        Mikel wrote: the speed of time is 1 second per second this would change, however, if dark matter exists correct? Like for example a black hole is proposed to slow down time. Later,
        JoeSox
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        jhaga
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        JoeSox Like for example a black hole is proposed to slow down time. A black hole is not slowing down time. It is only an outside observer's view that time is slowing down the nearer a black hole you come. The chemical reactions in your body will be the same and you will feel the same way as always. Of course, the heavy gravitation can make your head spin. :) jhaga CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!

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        • J jhaga

          I just made some calculations and got this: E=m*c2 is it right? CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!

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          Giles
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          Not entirely, as you have clearly only stated it for the case of a body at rest. ;P Lets see it you can do it for a body that is moving relative to your frame of reference. That will of course be the equation further up on the page, where you scribbled down your calcs.


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            Not entirely, as you have clearly only stated it for the case of a body at rest. ;P Lets see it you can do it for a body that is moving relative to your frame of reference. That will of course be the equation further up on the page, where you scribbled down your calcs.


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            jhaga
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            Sorry, but these kinds of calculations I only do in my head. And some moron has probably already written them down. :) jhaga CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!

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            • J JoeSox

              great link, I have been analyzing, reading, and discussing all day:rolleyes: I will have to read it later. Your analysis sounds good to me. after talking with a friend of mind I can of like the way he put it. "Relativity has reduced time to a fluctuating event.":-D but since I have you here have you ever read about chaos theory? http://www.duke.edu/~mjd/chaos/chaos.html[^] "...For, without a doubt, one cannot really explore chaos without a computer..." ah more motivation for me, to finish my HAI demo, which I have made some promising progress, btw the past couple of days:jig: I can't wait until I'm finished, I feel pressured too, ah. Later,
              JoeSox
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              Marc Clifton
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              JoeSox wrote: but since I have you here have you ever read about chaos theory? Yup, I've played with some algorithms many years ago. Lots of fun. A lot more reasonable than the "butterfly effect" (where a butterfly flapping its wings in South America causes a hurricane in the Atlantic), which is a stupid theory because all systems are dampening (of course the media loves it). Chaos theory is better because it allows for extremes within the confines of a system that normally behaves in expected ways. At least, that's my take on it. But I also think chaos theory is overrated (another media frenzy). Lots of things look like chaos because it's so damn hard to account for all the variables governing the system. Chaos is the scientific term for "magic". Glad you enjoyed the link! I am too. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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              • J JoeSox

                Mikel wrote: the speed of time is 1 second per second this would change, however, if dark matter exists correct? Like for example a black hole is proposed to slow down time. Later,
                JoeSox
                www.humanaiproject.org "Dream as if you'll live forever; live as if you'll die tomorrow." - James Dean(ISTP)

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                Kastellanos Nikos
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                JoeSox wrote: this would change, however, if dark matter exists correct? Like for example a black hole is proposed to slow down time. All this sounds too easy to me. :rolleyes: It makes me believe that we are traped in a crappy computer generated illusion, and outside is the real 9-dimensinal world, waiting for us to explore it... ;P - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Memory leaks is the price we pay \0 01234567890123456789012345678901234

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                • J JoeSox

                  does T = c ? Time = Speed of Light ? I tried researching on internet but nothing :| Later,
                  JoeSox
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                  Gil Rivlis
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                  Short answer: no. Longer answer: There are two different quantities with the name speed-of-light. The first is a universal constant, c, and is defined to be: 299,792,458 meters/sec (see here). The second quantity is the speed of actual light (that is, photons). Light travels in different speeds in different media (e.g., slower inside water or glass). The constant c happens to be the speed of light in vacuum. Time, on the other hand, is a basic variable. One may think of time as one of the 4 coordinates of space-time (special and genral relativity). It is indeed confusing that one of the coordinates of space time has different units (seconds) from the other three (meters). (To confuse the issue even more, physicists sometimes work in a coordinate system in which the time unit is meters. In that system the constant c is equal to 1.) Did this confuse you even more ;) ? Gil -- Caveat: This is a classical physics description, as opposed to quantum mechanical one. Currently there is no satisfatory theory of quantum gravity.

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                    Short answer: no. Longer answer: There are two different quantities with the name speed-of-light. The first is a universal constant, c, and is defined to be: 299,792,458 meters/sec (see here). The second quantity is the speed of actual light (that is, photons). Light travels in different speeds in different media (e.g., slower inside water or glass). The constant c happens to be the speed of light in vacuum. Time, on the other hand, is a basic variable. One may think of time as one of the 4 coordinates of space-time (special and genral relativity). It is indeed confusing that one of the coordinates of space time has different units (seconds) from the other three (meters). (To confuse the issue even more, physicists sometimes work in a coordinate system in which the time unit is meters. In that system the constant c is equal to 1.) Did this confuse you even more ;) ? Gil -- Caveat: This is a classical physics description, as opposed to quantum mechanical one. Currently there is no satisfatory theory of quantum gravity.

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                    Gil Rivlis wrote: Did this confuse you even more ? No:-D believe it or not. Let's just say I did I lot of reading yesterday:-D meters:( mph! :rolleyes: now that's confusing, figuring out the conversion. Later,
                    JoeSox
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                    • J jhaga

                      So you are saying that if Einstein was right we are all getting younger? And time for me is more a constant than a variable. I have difficult to see how the speed of time could change. jhaga CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!

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                      Just couldn't resist the fun (yes, it IS fun for me). jhaga wrote: I have difficult to see how the speed of time could change. For you, the speed of time will not change- since you're in the same frame as the clock with you. However, if you happen to be inside a shuttle that is moving very fast (say, just below 300000 kmph :omg: ), and happen to look at a clock outside your shuttle (how you may do it is beyond me), you'll see the hands of the clock spinnig real fast. Try it, and you'll see. ;P :-D
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                        JoeSox wrote: this would change, however, if dark matter exists correct? Like for example a black hole is proposed to slow down time. All this sounds too easy to me. :rolleyes: It makes me believe that we are traped in a crappy computer generated illusion, and outside is the real 9-dimensinal world, waiting for us to explore it... ;P - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Memory leaks is the price we pay \0 01234567890123456789012345678901234

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                        Vikram A Punathambekar
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                        Kastellanos Nikos wrote: It makes me believe that we are traped in a crappy computer generated illusion Take the red pill and follow me... Kastellanos Nikos wrote: outside is the real 9-dimensinal world, waiting for us to explore it... Tut tut... Everyone knows the Universe has 10 dimensions- according to the SuperString Theory :~ Well, not everyone I guess... ;P Hey, just kidding you. But SST says there are 10 dimensions.
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                        • V Vikram A Punathambekar

                          Just couldn't resist the fun (yes, it IS fun for me). jhaga wrote: I have difficult to see how the speed of time could change. For you, the speed of time will not change- since you're in the same frame as the clock with you. However, if you happen to be inside a shuttle that is moving very fast (say, just below 300000 kmph :omg: ), and happen to look at a clock outside your shuttle (how you may do it is beyond me), you'll see the hands of the clock spinnig real fast. Try it, and you'll see. ;P :-D
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                          jhaga
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                          Well, the clock you are talking about can't be outside the shuttle. The clock has to move 300000 kmph RELATIVE the shuttle. And I agree it is a little difficult to see that clock! :-D jhaga CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!

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