I need math help...
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JoeSox wrote: I see, so what does Time equal? anything? what does the speed of light equal? Whats up with all the questions? Is this your homework? ;P Time (in reqards to waves) = the time it takes to complete one cycle of the wave. Distance = wavelength Speed of Light (in empty space) = approx. 300,000 km/s Roger Stewart "I Owe, I Owe, it's off to work I go..."
Roger Stewart wrote: Whats up with all the questions? Is this your homework? no just goofing around, bored.:laugh: thanks. Later,
JoeSox
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Roger Stewart wrote: The speed of 'anything', even light, is calculated the same. Speed = Distance / Time So no. Time != speed of light I see, so what does Time equal? anything? what does the speed of light equal? :~ Later,
JoeSox
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c = 3x10^8 m/s :-D The tigress is here :-D
t = λ / c seconds:-D
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Navin wrote: the speed of light is a constant That's according to Einstein see, this is where it gets tricky, because this is currently being debated. read this "..Recent observations of quasar light however (by astronomer Webb et al), have brought this into serious question (by physicists Banks, Dine, and Douglas). The implications of which may be, among other, that light has significantly slowed down during the expansion of the universe to its present size..." http://users.iafrica.com/l/ll/lloyd/1-IsraelTimeLine/1-Adam-Moses/1-Beginnings.html[^] and this http://www.umich.edu/~mctp/media/EandMC2.html[^] "...The field, while still small, is destined for at least 15 minutes of fame next year with the publication in February of ''Faster Than the Speed of Light,'' by Dr. Jo?o Magueijo, a cosmologist at Imperial College London. The book is a racy account of Dr. Magueijo's seemingly heretical effort to modify relativity so that the speed of light is not constant, and he will promote it on a long lecture tour. ''Ruling out special relativity by 2005 is a bit extreme,'' Dr. Magueijo said in a recent e-mail message, referring to the coming centennial of Einstein's famous paper, ''although I would be very surprised if by 2050 nothing beyond relativity has been found...''" Later,
JoeSox
www.humanaiproject.org "Dream as if you'll live forever; live as if you'll die tomorrow." - James Dean(ISTP)But... even if it turns out that c is not constant, perhaps it is realted to time, probably by some weird and complex formula, but it won't be equal. The mismatch of units is a dead give-away. That's how I always knew if i had a physics equation wrong... i they units didn't match up, I new I was toast. "When a man sits with a pretty girl for an hour, it seems like a minute. But let him sit on a hot stove for a minute and it's longer than any hour. That's relativity." - Albert Einstein
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does T = c ? Time = Speed of Light ? I tried researching on internet but nothing :| Later,
JoeSox
www.humanaiproject.org "Dream as if you'll live forever; live as if you'll die tomorrow." - James Dean(ISTP)I think this is sort of a subjective thing. Time, the passage of time, the quantization of time, etc., is based on human perception or our perception of our machines. Conversely, this perception is governed by fundamental laws of time. For example, chemical reactions occur in the femtosecond time frame. If they occured faster or slower, our perception would be faster or slower. To make things more complicated, even simple senses such as temperature involve the measurement of time. Temperature is the partial derivative of heat transfer over time (if I remember that right). We tend to think of temperature in the absolute, but it's a very complicated perception involving the concept of time. Temperature is an excellent example of time being applied in a rate equation, similarly, velocity. However, the other concept of time is in the measure of "nowness" with relation to the future and the past. How do quantify "now"? Even worse, why is there a "now"? Since science has no answers, you might want to inquire of the philosophers: http://www.utm.edu/research/iep/t/time.htm[^] (an excellent resource for a lot of annoying questions about time, both philosophical and scientific, I'd say) Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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Roger Stewart wrote: The speed of 'anything', even light, is calculated the same. Speed = Distance / Time So no. Time != speed of light I see, so what does Time equal? anything? what does the speed of light equal? :~ Later,
JoeSox
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I think this is sort of a subjective thing. Time, the passage of time, the quantization of time, etc., is based on human perception or our perception of our machines. Conversely, this perception is governed by fundamental laws of time. For example, chemical reactions occur in the femtosecond time frame. If they occured faster or slower, our perception would be faster or slower. To make things more complicated, even simple senses such as temperature involve the measurement of time. Temperature is the partial derivative of heat transfer over time (if I remember that right). We tend to think of temperature in the absolute, but it's a very complicated perception involving the concept of time. Temperature is an excellent example of time being applied in a rate equation, similarly, velocity. However, the other concept of time is in the measure of "nowness" with relation to the future and the past. How do quantify "now"? Even worse, why is there a "now"? Since science has no answers, you might want to inquire of the philosophers: http://www.utm.edu/research/iep/t/time.htm[^] (an excellent resource for a lot of annoying questions about time, both philosophical and scientific, I'd say) Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"great link, I have been analyzing, reading, and discussing all day:rolleyes: I will have to read it later. Your analysis sounds good to me. after talking with a friend of mind I can of like the way he put it. "Relativity has reduced time to a fluctuating event.":-D but since I have you here have you ever read about chaos theory? http://www.duke.edu/~mjd/chaos/chaos.html[^] "...For, without a doubt, one cannot really explore chaos without a computer..." ah more motivation for me, to finish my HAI demo, which I have made some promising progress, btw the past couple of days:jig: I can't wait until I'm finished, I feel pressured too, ah. Later,
JoeSox
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Mikel wrote: the speed of time is 1 second per second this would change, however, if dark matter exists correct? Like for example a black hole is proposed to slow down time. Later,
JoeSox
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Mikel wrote: the speed of time is 1 second per second this would change, however, if dark matter exists correct? Like for example a black hole is proposed to slow down time. Later,
JoeSox
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Mikel wrote: the speed of time is 1 second per second this would change, however, if dark matter exists correct? Like for example a black hole is proposed to slow down time. Later,
JoeSox
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Mikel wrote: the speed of time is 1 second per second this would change, however, if dark matter exists correct? Like for example a black hole is proposed to slow down time. Later,
JoeSox
www.humanaiproject.org "Dream as if you'll live forever; live as if you'll die tomorrow." - James Dean(ISTP)JoeSox Like for example a black hole is proposed to slow down time. A black hole is not slowing down time. It is only an outside observer's view that time is slowing down the nearer a black hole you come. The chemical reactions in your body will be the same and you will feel the same way as always. Of course, the heavy gravitation can make your head spin. :) jhaga CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!
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I just made some calculations and got this: E=m*c2 is it right? CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!
Not entirely, as you have clearly only stated it for the case of a body at rest. ;P Lets see it you can do it for a body that is moving relative to your frame of reference. That will of course be the equation further up on the page, where you scribbled down your calcs.
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Not entirely, as you have clearly only stated it for the case of a body at rest. ;P Lets see it you can do it for a body that is moving relative to your frame of reference. That will of course be the equation further up on the page, where you scribbled down your calcs.
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Sorry, but these kinds of calculations I only do in my head. And some moron has probably already written them down. :) jhaga CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!
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great link, I have been analyzing, reading, and discussing all day:rolleyes: I will have to read it later. Your analysis sounds good to me. after talking with a friend of mind I can of like the way he put it. "Relativity has reduced time to a fluctuating event.":-D but since I have you here have you ever read about chaos theory? http://www.duke.edu/~mjd/chaos/chaos.html[^] "...For, without a doubt, one cannot really explore chaos without a computer..." ah more motivation for me, to finish my HAI demo, which I have made some promising progress, btw the past couple of days:jig: I can't wait until I'm finished, I feel pressured too, ah. Later,
JoeSox
www.humanaiproject.org "Dream as if you'll live forever; live as if you'll die tomorrow." - James Dean(ISTP)JoeSox wrote: but since I have you here have you ever read about chaos theory? Yup, I've played with some algorithms many years ago. Lots of fun. A lot more reasonable than the "butterfly effect" (where a butterfly flapping its wings in South America causes a hurricane in the Atlantic), which is a stupid theory because all systems are dampening (of course the media loves it). Chaos theory is better because it allows for extremes within the confines of a system that normally behaves in expected ways. At least, that's my take on it. But I also think chaos theory is overrated (another media frenzy). Lots of things look like chaos because it's so damn hard to account for all the variables governing the system. Chaos is the scientific term for "magic". Glad you enjoyed the link! I am too. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
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Mikel wrote: the speed of time is 1 second per second this would change, however, if dark matter exists correct? Like for example a black hole is proposed to slow down time. Later,
JoeSox
www.humanaiproject.org "Dream as if you'll live forever; live as if you'll die tomorrow." - James Dean(ISTP)JoeSox wrote: this would change, however, if dark matter exists correct? Like for example a black hole is proposed to slow down time. All this sounds too easy to me. :rolleyes: It makes me believe that we are traped in a crappy computer generated illusion, and outside is the real 9-dimensinal world, waiting for us to explore it... ;P - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Memory leaks is the price we pay \0 01234567890123456789012345678901234
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does T = c ? Time = Speed of Light ? I tried researching on internet but nothing :| Later,
JoeSox
www.humanaiproject.org "Dream as if you'll live forever; live as if you'll die tomorrow." - James Dean(ISTP)Short answer: no. Longer answer: There are two different quantities with the name speed-of-light. The first is a universal constant, c, and is defined to be: 299,792,458 meters/sec (see here). The second quantity is the speed of actual light (that is, photons). Light travels in different speeds in different media (e.g., slower inside water or glass). The constant c happens to be the speed of light in vacuum. Time, on the other hand, is a basic variable. One may think of time as one of the 4 coordinates of space-time (special and genral relativity). It is indeed confusing that one of the coordinates of space time has different units (seconds) from the other three (meters). (To confuse the issue even more, physicists sometimes work in a coordinate system in which the time unit is meters. In that system the constant c is equal to 1.) Did this confuse you even more ;) ? Gil -- Caveat: This is a classical physics description, as opposed to quantum mechanical one. Currently there is no satisfatory theory of quantum gravity.
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Short answer: no. Longer answer: There are two different quantities with the name speed-of-light. The first is a universal constant, c, and is defined to be: 299,792,458 meters/sec (see here). The second quantity is the speed of actual light (that is, photons). Light travels in different speeds in different media (e.g., slower inside water or glass). The constant c happens to be the speed of light in vacuum. Time, on the other hand, is a basic variable. One may think of time as one of the 4 coordinates of space-time (special and genral relativity). It is indeed confusing that one of the coordinates of space time has different units (seconds) from the other three (meters). (To confuse the issue even more, physicists sometimes work in a coordinate system in which the time unit is meters. In that system the constant c is equal to 1.) Did this confuse you even more ;) ? Gil -- Caveat: This is a classical physics description, as opposed to quantum mechanical one. Currently there is no satisfatory theory of quantum gravity.
Gil Rivlis wrote: Did this confuse you even more ? No:-D believe it or not. Let's just say I did I lot of reading yesterday:-D meters:( mph! :rolleyes: now that's confusing, figuring out the conversion. Later,
JoeSox
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So you are saying that if Einstein was right we are all getting younger? And time for me is more a constant than a variable. I have difficult to see how the speed of time could change. jhaga CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!
Just couldn't resist the fun (yes, it IS fun for me). jhaga wrote: I have difficult to see how the speed of time could change. For you, the speed of time will not change- since you're in the same frame as the clock with you. However, if you happen to be inside a shuttle that is moving very fast (say, just below 300000 kmph :omg: ), and happen to look at a clock outside your shuttle (how you may do it is beyond me), you'll see the hands of the clock spinnig real fast. Try it, and you'll see. ;P :-D
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JoeSox wrote: this would change, however, if dark matter exists correct? Like for example a black hole is proposed to slow down time. All this sounds too easy to me. :rolleyes: It makes me believe that we are traped in a crappy computer generated illusion, and outside is the real 9-dimensinal world, waiting for us to explore it... ;P - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Memory leaks is the price we pay \0 01234567890123456789012345678901234
Kastellanos Nikos wrote: It makes me believe that we are traped in a crappy computer generated illusion Take the red pill and follow me... Kastellanos Nikos wrote: outside is the real 9-dimensinal world, waiting for us to explore it... Tut tut... Everyone knows the Universe has 10 dimensions- according to the SuperString Theory :~ Well, not everyone I guess... ;P Hey, just kidding you. But SST says there are 10 dimensions.
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Just couldn't resist the fun (yes, it IS fun for me). jhaga wrote: I have difficult to see how the speed of time could change. For you, the speed of time will not change- since you're in the same frame as the clock with you. However, if you happen to be inside a shuttle that is moving very fast (say, just below 300000 kmph :omg: ), and happen to look at a clock outside your shuttle (how you may do it is beyond me), you'll see the hands of the clock spinnig real fast. Try it, and you'll see. ;P :-D
Vikram. ----------------------------- KI klike KDE kand kuse kit, kbut KI kmust kadmit, kstarting kall knames kwith K kis ksilly. KI khope kthey kwill kgive kup kthis kwhole kscheme ksoon kand kcome kup kwith kreal knames. pI vThink aHungarian nNotation vIs iA aWonderful nThing cAnd pEveryone avShould vUse pIt aAll dThe nTime, adNo nMatter pWhat dThe nContext, adEven adWhen vSpeaking.Well, the clock you are talking about can't be outside the shuttle. The clock has to move 300000 kmph RELATIVE the shuttle. And I agree it is a little difficult to see that clock! :-D jhaga CodeProject House, Paul Watson wrote: ...and the roar of John Simmons own personal Nascar in the garage. Meg flitting about taking photos.Chris having an heated arguement with Colin Davies and .S.Rod. over egian values. Nish manically typing *censur*. Duncan racing around after his pet *c.* Michael Martin and Bryce loudly yelling *c.* C.G. having a fit as Roger Wright loads up *c.* . Anna waving her *c.* and Deb scoffing chocolates in the corner. ...Good heavens!