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    Just got notified of VS update 16.6 - 2.31 GB ! insane

    "We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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    • pkfoxP pkfox

      Just got notified of VS update 16.6 - 2.31 GB ! insane

      "We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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      Sander Rossel
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      Perhaps because Windows Forms Designer for .NET Core Released | .NET Blog[^]? It should be included in VS2019 v16.6. 2.31 GB is still a lot though. Bigger than any WinForms project I could make, that's for sure :laugh: <edit> Just updated mine and it's "only" 1.48 GB for me, going from 16.5.5 to 16.6. </edit>

      Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

        Perhaps because Windows Forms Designer for .NET Core Released | .NET Blog[^]? It should be included in VS2019 v16.6. 2.31 GB is still a lot though. Bigger than any WinForms project I could make, that's for sure :laugh: <edit> Just updated mine and it's "only" 1.48 GB for me, going from 16.5.5 to 16.6. </edit>

        Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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        Do you have any NuGet problem either with 16.5.5 or 16.6? The Lounge[^]

        "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

        "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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        • pkfoxP pkfox

          Just got notified of VS update 16.6 - 2.31 GB ! insane

          "We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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          GuyThiebaut
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          You'll probably be wanting all the NPM libraries bundled with your update I imagine... :laugh: Not everyone has a fast broadband, I am lucky enough to have 100Mbps download but I imagine most of the world has a much much slower download speed.

          “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

          ― Christopher Hitchens

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          • pkfoxP pkfox

            Just got notified of VS update 16.6 - 2.31 GB ! insane

            "We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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            OriginalGriff
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            You think that's insane? Hah! Try mine:

            Visual Studio Community 2019
            Update Version: 16.6.0
            Download size: 4.17 GB
            Progress: Not started

            Current Version: 156.5.2
            Last Updated: 4/1/2020

            :elephant:! [edit] And the first thing it tries to do when I click "Update"? "Updating Visual Studio Installer" ... [/edit] Glad I wasn't planning on coding any time soon ... :laugh: [/edit]

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
            "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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            • pkfoxP pkfox

              Just got notified of VS update 16.6 - 2.31 GB ! insane

              "We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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              Rob Grainger
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              I thought for a moment they had rebranded WPF.

              "If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.

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              • G GuyThiebaut

                You'll probably be wanting all the NPM libraries bundled with your update I imagine... :laugh: Not everyone has a fast broadband, I am lucky enough to have 100Mbps download but I imagine most of the world has a much much slower download speed.

                “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                ― Christopher Hitchens

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                Sander Rossel
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                My experience with npm is that I've got 3 MB spread across 20,000 files. That is NOT an exaggeration.

                Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                  Do you have any NuGet problem either with 16.5.5 or 16.6? The Lounge[^]

                  "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

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                  Sander Rossel
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                  Nope, my only problem with 16.5.5 was that when I went to "View -> Other windows" (from the menu at the top) it would crash Visual Studio :~ It's not something I use a lot, but it happens. In fact, it happened to me earlier this week, that's why I updated to 16.6 asap. The problem seems to be fixed now.

                  Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                    My experience with npm is that I've got 3 MB spread across 20,000 files. That is NOT an exaggeration.

                    Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                    GuyThiebaut
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                    I am impressed with the small size, it is pretty amazing what minification can do.

                    “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                    ― Christopher Hitchens

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                      I am impressed with the small size, it is pretty amazing what minification can do.

                      “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                      ― Christopher Hitchens

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                      Sander Rossel
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                      That, and a lot of these packages are one-liners, even before minification :sigh: You know, the kind that breaks the entire ecosystem[^]. Another one-line npm package breaks the JavaScript ecosystem | ZDNet[^] IT ALL FALLS APART OVER A FRIGGIN "IS-PROMISE" FUNCTION!? :omg: :wtf: :laugh: :~ X| At least leftpad was a whooping 11 lines :laugh: I'm not sure if "impressed" is the word you're looking for :rolleyes:

                      Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                        You think that's insane? Hah! Try mine:

                        Visual Studio Community 2019
                        Update Version: 16.6.0
                        Download size: 4.17 GB
                        Progress: Not started

                        Current Version: 156.5.2
                        Last Updated: 4/1/2020

                        :elephant:! [edit] And the first thing it tries to do when I click "Update"? "Updating Visual Studio Installer" ... [/edit] Glad I wasn't planning on coding any time soon ... :laugh: [/edit]

                        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                        Nand32
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                        I'm so glad I'm having to fiddle only with Visual Studio code.

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                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                          That, and a lot of these packages are one-liners, even before minification :sigh: You know, the kind that breaks the entire ecosystem[^]. Another one-line npm package breaks the JavaScript ecosystem | ZDNet[^] IT ALL FALLS APART OVER A FRIGGIN "IS-PROMISE" FUNCTION!? :omg: :wtf: :laugh: :~ X| At least leftpad was a whooping 11 lines :laugh: I'm not sure if "impressed" is the word you're looking for :rolleyes:

                          Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                          Dan Neely
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                          definitely a case of coders riding on the shoartbus.

                          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                          • pkfoxP pkfox

                            Just got notified of VS update 16.6 - 2.31 GB ! insane

                            "We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                            dandy72
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                            "Insane" is getting the full installer updated, so you can re-run it elsewhere purely offline. Last time I did that, I was downloading tens of GBs regularly. I no longer bother.

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                            • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                              Perhaps because Windows Forms Designer for .NET Core Released | .NET Blog[^]? It should be included in VS2019 v16.6. 2.31 GB is still a lot though. Bigger than any WinForms project I could make, that's for sure :laugh: <edit> Just updated mine and it's "only" 1.48 GB for me, going from 16.5.5 to 16.6. </edit>

                              Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                              Marc Clifton
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                              Sander Rossel wrote:

                              Perhaps because Windows Forms Designer for .NET Core Released | .NET Blog[^]?

                              Cool, but except for one-off utilities, everything I do nowadays is a web page. Never thought I'd say that, lol.

                              Latest Articles:
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                              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                You think that's insane? Hah! Try mine:

                                Visual Studio Community 2019
                                Update Version: 16.6.0
                                Download size: 4.17 GB
                                Progress: Not started

                                Current Version: 156.5.2
                                Last Updated: 4/1/2020

                                :elephant:! [edit] And the first thing it tries to do when I click "Update"? "Updating Visual Studio Installer" ... [/edit] Glad I wasn't planning on coding any time soon ... :laugh: [/edit]

                                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                Riz Thon
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                                As for me after downloading and installing the update, I open Visual Studio and it's still the same version as before. So I have to again download and install, this time it tells me I have to restart my computer. I've had issues like that on 2 different computers, where I download and install VS and still it's not updated. What I would usually do is redownload the installer.

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                                  Sander Rossel wrote:

                                  Perhaps because Windows Forms Designer for .NET Core Released | .NET Blog[^]?

                                  Cool, but except for one-off utilities, everything I do nowadays is a web page. Never thought I'd say that, lol.

                                  Latest Articles:
                                  Abusing Extension Methods, Null Continuation, and Null Coalescence Operators

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                                  Yeah, me too. I still have one customer who has a WinForms application. I didn't make it, but I'm maintaining it. Just last week I wrote a Console app, it just need to check for some files to mail every few minutes and it HAD to run on a local Exchange server. Other than that it's all web nowadays. Although I did speak to a potential customer earlier this year who needed software to interface with (label)printers, scanners and possibly other hardware. A web app isn't going to do that, so it's either WinForms or an alternative. I don't really see the added value of WPF except that it can do some nice graphical stuff that I don't need, Java is out of the question, and I'm not sure if an alternative like Electron has the same maturity as WinForms. The guy put everything on hold because of COVID-19, but if he ever decided to continue that project and I get to be the one that writes it, I may go for WinForms.

                                  Best, Sander sanderrossel.com Migrating Applications to the Cloud with Azure arrgh.js - Bringing LINQ to JavaScript Object-Oriented Programming in C# Succinctly

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                                  • pkfoxP pkfox

                                    Just got notified of VS update 16.6 - 2.31 GB ! insane

                                    "We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                                    The fact is VS is ugly, monolitic, high dependency sh%%t (like Linux kernel). That's why one-line change in one library requires total recompillation and upload tons of bytes.

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                                    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                                      Do you have any NuGet problem either with 16.5.5 or 16.6? The Lounge[^]

                                      "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

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                                      buckrogerz 0
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                                      WTF is right Nugets that are in Azure are not working for me at the moment

                                      Buckrogerz

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                                        WTF is right Nugets that are in Azure are not working for me at the moment

                                        Buckrogerz

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                                        Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                                        You may want to add your bits here than... PackageReference's in projects are dissapear since updating to 16.6.0... - Developer Community[^]

                                        "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

                                        "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                                        • pkfoxP pkfox

                                          Just got notified of VS update 16.6 - 2.31 GB ! insane

                                          "We can't stop here - this is bat country" - Hunter S Thompson - RIP

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                                          Nelek
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                                          Installing VS 2019 v 16.6 right now... By far not fully installation, almost nothing on web, nothing on big data, nothing on other OS's Still almost 60 Gb space needed.

                                          M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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