The "Evolution" of Windows
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Earlier today I had to open a Word document and I wanted to move it to my other monitor. Then it occured to me - there's no place on the title bar to click & drag. The Title bar is full of "features" now. When did it ever become a good idea to move controls off a toolbar, which you can hide, rearrange, and move, to the Title Bar. Even the actualy title is some kind of save control that opens a drop down with save options. When I tried to drag to window to the other monitor, I hit the title, and instead of moving, this drop down opened. Then I had to actually go find some place in the title bar to hold on to to move the window. So instead of Click, Drag, Move, done, I had to spend 2 minutes trying to figure the damn thing out. What I'm sure was an "enhancment in the name of productivity" has really become an annoyance that makes me not want to use this app any more. After coding apps for 35+ years, I'm strugging to the the evolution in software we use these days.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
I think it's a strategy to get you to upgrade to a wider monitor screen. 1920 not big enough, upgrade to 2560 and a couple of years later 3840.
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It is windows key + Shift key + Arrow in the direction of the window.
That changes the monitor, but not the position within the same monitor. Vertical tide right side monitor 1 + [Windows + Left] = Vertical tide left monitor 1. Vertical tide right side monitor 1 + [Windows + Shift + Left] = Vertical tide right monitor 2. If with option #1 doesn't change to 50% of the screen, it is at least aligned top left, then [windows + down] makes it again 50% of the screen. Doing it again, lower 25%. Do it again than minimizes. (I suppose that has changed lately, before you only needed one Windows + Down to minimize from the left 50% position)
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Sander Rossel wrote:
I never use alt+F4.
Try it : Friday evening, hit alt-f4 frenetically until the computer shuts down. Very relieving feeling. :laugh:
I enjoy the feeling when I press those "X" buttons one by one :D
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Earlier today I had to open a Word document and I wanted to move it to my other monitor. Then it occured to me - there's no place on the title bar to click & drag. The Title bar is full of "features" now. When did it ever become a good idea to move controls off a toolbar, which you can hide, rearrange, and move, to the Title Bar. Even the actualy title is some kind of save control that opens a drop down with save options. When I tried to drag to window to the other monitor, I hit the title, and instead of moving, this drop down opened. Then I had to actually go find some place in the title bar to hold on to to move the window. So instead of Click, Drag, Move, done, I had to spend 2 minutes trying to figure the damn thing out. What I'm sure was an "enhancment in the name of productivity" has really become an annoyance that makes me not want to use this app any more. After coding apps for 35+ years, I'm strugging to the the evolution in software we use these days.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
I've got pretty much the same thing with the taskbar. So many pinned or running programs, there's no room to right-click.
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Earlier today I had to open a Word document and I wanted to move it to my other monitor. Then it occured to me - there's no place on the title bar to click & drag. The Title bar is full of "features" now. When did it ever become a good idea to move controls off a toolbar, which you can hide, rearrange, and move, to the Title Bar. Even the actualy title is some kind of save control that opens a drop down with save options. When I tried to drag to window to the other monitor, I hit the title, and instead of moving, this drop down opened. Then I had to actually go find some place in the title bar to hold on to to move the window. So instead of Click, Drag, Move, done, I had to spend 2 minutes trying to figure the damn thing out. What I'm sure was an "enhancment in the name of productivity" has really become an annoyance that makes me not want to use this app any more. After coding apps for 35+ years, I'm strugging to the the evolution in software we use these days.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
I agree, but you can use the same trick I use when a dialog is off screen (after unplugging a monitor eg.) - in the Windows taskbar hover over the application - hover over the thumbnail that appears - right click and select "Move" - use the arrow keys to move the window not ideal, but faster than 2 minutes :-) (but perhaps that was the solution you found ;-))
V.
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VM to the rescue (again) ;) :-D Virtual Machine with Windows XP and Office 2000, convert them and then change to Win 7 and office 2010...
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An interesting solution! I would've thought that finding a copy of Office 2000 would be almost impossible, but presumably it isn't for you to suggest this.
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An interesting solution! I would've thought that finding a copy of Office 2000 would be almost impossible, but presumably it isn't for you to suggest this.
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I think I still have one laying around somewhere in the external drives. And there is the internet archive... I suppose you can find oldies there too.
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Excel is also bad for this, putting up a little symbol menu after a paste operation, or previewing a window containing another Excel document, both covering up things that you want to look at. Just stop with all this nonsense!
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That silly Excel 'thing' that, as you say, hides things, has annoyed me for a while, so I was motivated to look for a fix: easy! see Make Paste Options button disappear after you paste - Office | Microsoft Docs[^]
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That silly Excel 'thing' that, as you say, hides things, has annoyed me for a while, so I was motivated to look for a fix: easy! see Make Paste Options button disappear after you paste - Office | Microsoft Docs[^]
:thumbsup: But people who want this shite should have to go through this!
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That silly Excel 'thing' that, as you say, hides things, has annoyed me for a while, so I was motivated to look for a fix: easy! see Make Paste Options button disappear after you paste - Office | Microsoft Docs[^]
Their instructions say
1. Click the Microsoft Office Button, and then click Excel Options.
What "Microsoft Office Button"?! Oh, this is for Excel 2007, which probably doesn't even open in Windows 10, and of course things were rearranged in Excel 2016. So after some hunting around... \>File > Options (way down at the bottom) > Advanced / Cut, copy, and paste / first check box
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:thumbsup: But people who want this shite should have to go through this!
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I've got pretty much the same thing with the taskbar. So many pinned or running programs, there's no room to right-click.
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Sounds like a partially self-inflicted problem. The not-obvious solution: Right click the date/time...
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Sounds like a partially self-inflicted problem. The not-obvious solution: Right click the date/time...
Excellent. I didn't know the clock would show more than offering to change the date/time. The task bar is a setting problem...my computer at work, just shows the running program icon, but at home I get a wide buttony thing with the program name. I'm sure there's a setting somewhere...ah...yes...I never thought to actually look before. :doh: "Combine taskbar buttons" seems to do it.
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Earlier today I had to open a Word document and I wanted to move it to my other monitor. Then it occured to me - there's no place on the title bar to click & drag. The Title bar is full of "features" now. When did it ever become a good idea to move controls off a toolbar, which you can hide, rearrange, and move, to the Title Bar. Even the actualy title is some kind of save control that opens a drop down with save options. When I tried to drag to window to the other monitor, I hit the title, and instead of moving, this drop down opened. Then I had to actually go find some place in the title bar to hold on to to move the window. So instead of Click, Drag, Move, done, I had to spend 2 minutes trying to figure the damn thing out. What I'm sure was an "enhancment in the name of productivity" has really become an annoyance that makes me not want to use this app any more. After coding apps for 35+ years, I'm strugging to the the evolution in software we use these days.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
I wonder if you used a browser in the last 10 years. Nowadays using title bar for more functionality is a standard, and any "big" application uses it.
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Earlier today I had to open a Word document and I wanted to move it to my other monitor. Then it occured to me - there's no place on the title bar to click & drag. The Title bar is full of "features" now. When did it ever become a good idea to move controls off a toolbar, which you can hide, rearrange, and move, to the Title Bar. Even the actualy title is some kind of save control that opens a drop down with save options. When I tried to drag to window to the other monitor, I hit the title, and instead of moving, this drop down opened. Then I had to actually go find some place in the title bar to hold on to to move the window. So instead of Click, Drag, Move, done, I had to spend 2 minutes trying to figure the damn thing out. What I'm sure was an "enhancment in the name of productivity" has really become an annoyance that makes me not want to use this app any more. After coding apps for 35+ years, I'm strugging to the the evolution in software we use these days.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is. Everything makes sense in someone's mind. Ya can't fix stupid.
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Haven't had that problem with Word, but Teams is pretty bad at this. I'm *always* struggling to find a place I can click on the caption to drag the window around. I suspect there's some devs at Microsoft being told that everybody's running everything fullscreen (y'know...like you would on a tablet or phone)...so who still uses non-maximized windows nowadays, that you'd want to move around...?
Yeah I also face the same problem with MS Teams.
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I think I still have one laying around somewhere in the external drives. And there is the internet archive... I suppose you can find oldies there too.
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If you have an MSDN subscription, you can download all the way back to Office 95 :cool: There's even Windows 3.1 if you want to go all nostalgic I think the availability depends on the subscription. (I have an Enterprise subscription)
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It is windows key + Shift key + Arrow in the direction of the window.
Thanks! Works on Ubuntu too.
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Excel is also bad for this, putting up a little symbol menu after a paste operation, or previewing a window containing another Excel document, both covering up things that you want to look at. Just stop with all this nonsense!
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I like it, in my workflow a lot of times I paste only values not formulas (that are meaningless in the new workbook), and more often, I strip HTML formatting from text in Word with it.
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I like it, in my workflow a lot of times I paste only values not formulas (that are meaningless in the new workbook), and more often, I strip HTML formatting from text in Word with it.
I paste values too, though not very often, and don't mind doing it without that thing that always overlays what I want to work on after pasting the usual way. :laugh:
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