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Marriage is a religious notion, not biological. Marriage does suck. It has its benefits, but there are more cons than pros, IMHO.
Slacker007 wrote:
but there are more cons than pros
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Marriage is great. I married a cheerleader and she has continued to be a cheerleader for everything I do. She is also an amazing cook and highly intelligent allowing for some great conversations and a happy time together. My son will be 32 next birthday and just sent a thank you note to us for all that we have done for him - although most of it came from my wife and she deserves the thanks. On the other hand, my son's wonderful girlfriend is living with us, looks after him, helps my wife keep up the house and cuts our all our hair (she is a professional hairdresser who cannot work right now). My son says they aren't interested in marriage, they'll just live together. Whatever works. These are different times from 30-odd years ago. As long as everyone is happy, that's what one should do. The jokes are still funny though.
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I'm the same age as your son and lived with my girlfriend (now my wife) under my parents roof for a long stretch (5 years). I thank you too, because the possibility of living together while starting up is pure gold and speaks a lot on the kind of parent you are!
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Marriage is a religious notion, not biological. Marriage does suck. It has its benefits, but there are more cons than pros, IMHO.
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at least they tend to be more funny when there is. With all of the "marriage sucks" jokes lately (a lot of them by one specific member) it makes me wonder why do people bother getting married? Why do people keep getting married if it's such torture? I've never understood that. Marriage sucks jokes have been around forever yet people keep getting married. If your marriage is like all of these jokes, I suggest you go to counseling. Marriage does not have to be and should not be torture. It should be the best relationship you ever have. I suppose for some of you, maybe it is torture AND the best relationship at the same time. :laugh:
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Yes and no. The right to complain and especially joke on marriage is sacred, marriage does have its quirks.
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I suppose for some of you, maybe it is torture AND the best relationship at the same time.
I think that to be married you have to love the other person a lot, but also hate a bit: otherwise why marry when you can just be togehter? :D
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I wasn't planning on getting married, ever :D It's a weird social construct that adds nothing when you're happy in love, but adds a lot of trouble when that love has gone :laugh: On a side note, I think raising or burning a flag, or a politician apologizing for slavery or WWII or whatever (anything they didn't personally do or had any influence on), a minute of silence and that sort of symbolic statements are all weird social constructs that I really don't get. They're symbolic and change absolutely nothing to what has already passed. Marriage, in that sense, is purely symbolic and does nothing except give you some tax benefits and arrange for your heritage that you could also get from a cohabitation contract.
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Sander Rossel wrote:
It's a weird social construct that adds nothing
Depending on where you live it might add a lot of economic and social stability. I understand that in Japan it's common practise among gay couples, since gay marriages isn't recognized, that one adopts the other. This gives them the legal right to inherit each other.
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Marriage is a religious notion, not biological. Marriage does suck. It has its benefits, but there are more cons than pros, IMHO.
Honestly being capable of traveling to any nation, including the fundamentalist hellholes, without risking death penalty for sleeping with my significant other is quite the asdvantage. Adding the economical (lower taxes) and logistical benefits (possibility of taking care of each other business, from booking medical visits to managing household contracts) it really becomes useful.
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Do you get along with your best friend ALL the time? Marriage is like that, you can get out of sorts with your partner but there is enough love and friendship to get past differences and make up. The bond grows stronger through these situations. Been married for 32 years to my best friend and I wouldn't change any of it except for the times I've been an idiot and hurt her.
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It's a weird social construct that adds nothing
Oh yes it does, at least in the country I live. Basically, it is a contract (between m/f, f/f, m/m) that regulates one and the other. E.g. something important like pension fund or inheritance matters. Ok, you are young but the older you get, things like this becomes more important ;)
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
It's a contract whose terms are subject to political whim. If the times comes to break it, the rules may have changed since it was originally entered into. Pass.
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Sander Rossel wrote:
It's a weird social construct that adds nothing
Depending on where you live it might add a lot of economic and social stability. I understand that in Japan it's common practise among gay couples, since gay marriages isn't recognized, that one adopts the other. This gives them the legal right to inherit each other.
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I've heard of adult adoption also being used to obtain citizenship for the adoptee.
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Sander Rossel wrote:
It's a weird social construct that adds nothing
Depending on where you live it might add a lot of economic and social stability. I understand that in Japan it's common practise among gay couples, since gay marriages isn't recognized, that one adopts the other. This gives them the legal right to inherit each other.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Jörgen Andersson wrote:
Depending on where you live it might add a lot of economic and social stability.
Exactly, it's an economic contract. In the Netherlands I believe you can obtain the same with a cohabitation contract. Beyond the economic contract I don't get it. You know, the standard girl's dream, big day, rituals, rings, through sickness and health, blah blah... Until the divorce anyway. In the Netherlands you can get married for free at the city hall on Monday. In, out, always prenub, and have that contract dealt with.
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It's a weird social construct that adds nothing
Oh yes it does, at least in the country I live. Basically, it is a contract (between m/f, f/f, m/m) that regulates one and the other. E.g. something important like pension fund or inheritance matters. Ok, you are young but the older you get, things like this becomes more important ;)
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
Yeah, and since it's ONLY a contract (to me at least), it's absurd so many people are against same sex marriage. That's because to those people it's more, it's some holy ritual that ultimately changes nothing to your current reality. I get the contract, but beyond that I'm at a loss.
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at least they tend to be more funny when there is. With all of the "marriage sucks" jokes lately (a lot of them by one specific member) it makes me wonder why do people bother getting married? Why do people keep getting married if it's such torture? I've never understood that. Marriage sucks jokes have been around forever yet people keep getting married. If your marriage is like all of these jokes, I suggest you go to counseling. Marriage does not have to be and should not be torture. It should be the best relationship you ever have. I suppose for some of you, maybe it is torture AND the best relationship at the same time. :laugh:
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We tend to make jokes about subjects that make us uncomfortable. This is why sex and death are the eternal funny subjects. As for marriage, it involves living in very close proximity to someone whose fundamental thought processes differ from ours. For example, my wife had to figuratively beat me over the head before I realized that when she complained about her day, she wanted sympathy, not solutions. No wonder we tell jokes about it! We've survived 19 years and two teenage girls, so we can't be doing too badly...
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Sure, it's religious. It's also political, which is an even better reason to avoid it. But it's also biological: albatross (amongst many other species) mate for life.
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You can "mate for life" without being married. Maybe not in all countries where marriage is still holy and you have to marry before you can look at a woman, but in the west you can mate all you want without being married :D
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Slacker007 wrote:
there are more cons than pros,
When done right, marriage is the best way to raise children. Religious or not, biological or not, it has been proven to be the best way to raise kids and to stabilize society.
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Because you can't raise children when you're not married? :confused: You can live together and do all the things you'd do when you were married without actually being married.
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You can "mate for life" without being married. Maybe not in all countries where marriage is still holy and you have to marry before you can look at a woman, but in the west you can mate all you want without being married :D
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Because you can't raise children when you're not married? :confused: You can live together and do all the things you'd do when you were married without actually being married.
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Sander Rossel wrote:
Because you can't raise children when you're not married?
Obviously not.
Sander Rossel wrote:
You can live together and do all the things you'd do when you were married without actually being married.
That is a true statement.
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Sander Rossel wrote:
Because you can't raise children when you're not married?
Obviously not.
Sander Rossel wrote:
You can live together and do all the things you'd do when you were married without actually being married.
That is a true statement.
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ZurdoDev wrote:
Obviously not.
I can't tell if you're joking or being serious :^) I'd assume you're joking, but we've proven to have completely different viewpoints and beliefs that aren't always compatible before :laugh:
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Yeah, and since it's ONLY a contract (to me at least), it's absurd so many people are against same sex marriage. That's because to those people it's more, it's some holy ritual that ultimately changes nothing to your current reality. I get the contract, but beyond that I'm at a loss.
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I forgot to mention, here where I live: Church and state marriages are strictly separated and for legal aspects only state marriages/contracts count. And therefore also gender is no issue for a state marriage.
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
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ZurdoDev wrote:
Obviously not.
I can't tell if you're joking or being serious :^) I'd assume you're joking, but we've proven to have completely different viewpoints and beliefs that aren't always compatible before :laugh:
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You implied that I had said you can't raise children unless you're married. I'm shocked you would think I'd say something like that or that ANYONE would say something like that. Of course you can raise children even if you're not married. I don't think you read my post very clearly.
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I forgot to mention, here where I live: Church and state marriages are strictly separated and for legal aspects only state marriages/contracts count. And therefore also gender is no issue for a state marriage.
It does not solve my Problem, but it answers my question
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And therefore also gender is no issue for a state marriage.
Not officially anyway ;) I think The Netherlands was the first country to legalize same sex marriage, but only after it was forbidden for centuries(?). They can marry now, but they can also be beaten up because, well, they are attracted to the same sex. It's not legal to beat them up, but it still happens :sigh: I also think civil servants are allowed to refuse a same sex marriage and another civil servant will do it instead. Not sure if that's legal, but I know it happens. I think we have the same system as well, by the way.
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