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  • M MadMyche

    We'll just say I am a little picky, and old; and really don't want to change. I have been using the Microsoft Internet Keyboard based keyboard for 20+ years now, the last 15 years or so have all been the Pro version with USB connectivity. Me and my kb have an exclusive relationship; at the office and at home I have the same setup, including the MS Trackball Optical everywhere as well. Prior to this kb I was using Type M or F keyboards back to the 80s Now my home kb is near the point of no return. And they are getting hard to find. So I am going to purchase something new. What I want- 1. I want to keep the same KB angle and rear height. My hands are molded at this angle now. 2. I would like to retain the special purpose keys for email, web, and if I can media controls. 3. Durability. Don't want to have to retrain my hands in 5 years to something different. 4. Full size. I purchased an off-brand MX-Blue keyboard over the weekend and even though the size was a little smaller than I wanted, I could have learned to live with it. I guess it was off-brand as the Enter key was basically sitting at the detent level and other signs of being someone else's reject Suggestions would be appreciated.

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    Stuart Dootson
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    I use a [Filco Majestouch 2 with Cherry MX-Brown switches](https://www.keyboardco.com/keyboard/uk-filco-majestouch-2-tenkeyless-nkr-tactile-action-keyboard.asp) (it also comes in a full layout as well as tenkeyless), which is nice, if a little light, and also a [Unicomp buckling spring keyboard](https://www.pckeyboard.com/), which is the closest thing to a Model M you're going to find new... You might be interested in [this resurrection of Model F keyboards](https://www.modelfkeyboards.com/) as well... As bonus content - you might be interested in [Thomas' keyboard reviews](https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCD0y51PJfvkZNe3y3FR5riw)... They can get sweary at times with particularly bad keyboards...

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      Isn't 7 – Beer Font[^] (from the same series) even better?

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      What's next? Only get CP points if someone clicks on the link? Right? 64-bit clicks, get 'yer 64-bit clicks here.

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      • M MadMyche

        We'll just say I am a little picky, and old; and really don't want to change. I have been using the Microsoft Internet Keyboard based keyboard for 20+ years now, the last 15 years or so have all been the Pro version with USB connectivity. Me and my kb have an exclusive relationship; at the office and at home I have the same setup, including the MS Trackball Optical everywhere as well. Prior to this kb I was using Type M or F keyboards back to the 80s Now my home kb is near the point of no return. And they are getting hard to find. So I am going to purchase something new. What I want- 1. I want to keep the same KB angle and rear height. My hands are molded at this angle now. 2. I would like to retain the special purpose keys for email, web, and if I can media controls. 3. Durability. Don't want to have to retrain my hands in 5 years to something different. 4. Full size. I purchased an off-brand MX-Blue keyboard over the weekend and even though the size was a little smaller than I wanted, I could have learned to live with it. I guess it was off-brand as the Enter key was basically sitting at the detent level and other signs of being someone else's reject Suggestions would be appreciated.

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        [https://www.instructables.com/id/USB-Typewriter/\](https://www.instructables.com/id/USB-Typewriter/)

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          [https://www.instructables.com/id/USB-Typewriter/\](https://www.instructables.com/id/USB-Typewriter/)

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          kalberts
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          Or what about a Teletype Model 33[^]? I learned my very first Basic programming through one of this kind. Removable data/program storage, with density 10 CPI (paper tape). Read/write speed: 10 bytes/sec. (The interface was 110 bps, but each byte also had start and stop bits.)

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          • M MadMyche

            We'll just say I am a little picky, and old; and really don't want to change. I have been using the Microsoft Internet Keyboard based keyboard for 20+ years now, the last 15 years or so have all been the Pro version with USB connectivity. Me and my kb have an exclusive relationship; at the office and at home I have the same setup, including the MS Trackball Optical everywhere as well. Prior to this kb I was using Type M or F keyboards back to the 80s Now my home kb is near the point of no return. And they are getting hard to find. So I am going to purchase something new. What I want- 1. I want to keep the same KB angle and rear height. My hands are molded at this angle now. 2. I would like to retain the special purpose keys for email, web, and if I can media controls. 3. Durability. Don't want to have to retrain my hands in 5 years to something different. 4. Full size. I purchased an off-brand MX-Blue keyboard over the weekend and even though the size was a little smaller than I wanted, I could have learned to live with it. I guess it was off-brand as the Enter key was basically sitting at the detent level and other signs of being someone else's reject Suggestions would be appreciated.

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            DanW52
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            Take a look at the Kinesis Freestyle 2. It's a split keyboard with an infinitely adjustable angle or the two halves can be separated. It has three potential angles between the two halves. It also has hand rests which really help. My RSI in my wrists has gone from annoying to almost zero with these. My favorite feature! - a Delete key on the left side to be used with your little finger in addition to the standard Delete key on the right at the top. [^]Kinesis Freestyle2 Ergonomic Split Keyboard | Kinesis Keyboards[^] Also available on eBay.

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            • D dandy72

              I can't make any particular recommendation on what keyboard to buy (only you can decide what you like, and it's all very subjective), but the one recommendation I will make is this: Once you find one you like, get some spares. Make sure they all work, but put the spares back in the box and leave them there until the one you use daily dies. I'm very peculiar about my mice and keyboards - too many variations, too easy to find something you dislike. I went for a good decade or two primarily using the same type of mouse (the original white and gray MS IntelliMouse) and was lamenting the fact that they're impossible to find when mine finally became unusable...and then ~2 years ago they came out with a model that was, for all intents and purposes, identical to the original except for its color (which is entirely irrelevant to me). I got one, tried it out, decided it felt *very* close to the original, and bought 5 spares - hopefully enough to last me a lifetime. If someone wants to borrow a mouse from me, they're *not* there for that purpose. That's my private stash, and I'll get very defensive about it. I also have a spare keyboard. I like the one I'm currently using enough to have gotten a spare, but it's still not quite "perfect" to me...otherwise I would have gotten a few more and been done with it. There's nothing worse than having tools you don't like. Getting some extras is absolutely worth the expense, IMO.

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              Same problem with good athletic shoes! Buy some backups if you find a pair you like.

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              • M MadMyche

                We'll just say I am a little picky, and old; and really don't want to change. I have been using the Microsoft Internet Keyboard based keyboard for 20+ years now, the last 15 years or so have all been the Pro version with USB connectivity. Me and my kb have an exclusive relationship; at the office and at home I have the same setup, including the MS Trackball Optical everywhere as well. Prior to this kb I was using Type M or F keyboards back to the 80s Now my home kb is near the point of no return. And they are getting hard to find. So I am going to purchase something new. What I want- 1. I want to keep the same KB angle and rear height. My hands are molded at this angle now. 2. I would like to retain the special purpose keys for email, web, and if I can media controls. 3. Durability. Don't want to have to retrain my hands in 5 years to something different. 4. Full size. I purchased an off-brand MX-Blue keyboard over the weekend and even though the size was a little smaller than I wanted, I could have learned to live with it. I guess it was off-brand as the Enter key was basically sitting at the detent level and other signs of being someone else's reject Suggestions would be appreciated.

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                charlieg
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                best keyboard I've ever owned started on a dell laptop with the scissor support. Logitech has one called the y-uy95 illuminated keyboard. Large, lit keys, tactile feedback (not the chiclit crap) with a good wrist support system. But you seem fussy :)

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                  Same problem with good athletic shoes! Buy some backups if you find a pair you like.

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                  dandy72
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                  I wouldn't necessarily go crazy and buy a bunch of extras when it comes to clothes and the like...my waist size isn't exactly a constant, and I have the pants in my closet to prove it. How some of them ever fit me, I'll never know...

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                  • M MadMyche

                    We'll just say I am a little picky, and old; and really don't want to change. I have been using the Microsoft Internet Keyboard based keyboard for 20+ years now, the last 15 years or so have all been the Pro version with USB connectivity. Me and my kb have an exclusive relationship; at the office and at home I have the same setup, including the MS Trackball Optical everywhere as well. Prior to this kb I was using Type M or F keyboards back to the 80s Now my home kb is near the point of no return. And they are getting hard to find. So I am going to purchase something new. What I want- 1. I want to keep the same KB angle and rear height. My hands are molded at this angle now. 2. I would like to retain the special purpose keys for email, web, and if I can media controls. 3. Durability. Don't want to have to retrain my hands in 5 years to something different. 4. Full size. I purchased an off-brand MX-Blue keyboard over the weekend and even though the size was a little smaller than I wanted, I could have learned to live with it. I guess it was off-brand as the Enter key was basically sitting at the detent level and other signs of being someone else's reject Suggestions would be appreciated.

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                    milo xml
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                    I have a Microsoft Internet Keyboard if you still want one. Basically brand new, just a bit dusty. PM me if interested.

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                      best keyboard I've ever owned started on a dell laptop with the scissor support. Logitech has one called the y-uy95 illuminated keyboard. Large, lit keys, tactile feedback (not the chiclit crap) with a good wrist support system. But you seem fussy :)

                      Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                      MadMyche
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                      Actually this is on the shortlist for me to try out

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                      • M milo xml

                        I have a Microsoft Internet Keyboard if you still want one. Basically brand new, just a bit dusty. PM me if interested.

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                        MadMyche
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                        Standard or Pro (USB and built-in hub)

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                          Standard or Pro (USB and built-in hub)

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                          Standard I guess? It's PS/2. I still have the box, lol.

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                          • M MadMyche

                            We'll just say I am a little picky, and old; and really don't want to change. I have been using the Microsoft Internet Keyboard based keyboard for 20+ years now, the last 15 years or so have all been the Pro version with USB connectivity. Me and my kb have an exclusive relationship; at the office and at home I have the same setup, including the MS Trackball Optical everywhere as well. Prior to this kb I was using Type M or F keyboards back to the 80s Now my home kb is near the point of no return. And they are getting hard to find. So I am going to purchase something new. What I want- 1. I want to keep the same KB angle and rear height. My hands are molded at this angle now. 2. I would like to retain the special purpose keys for email, web, and if I can media controls. 3. Durability. Don't want to have to retrain my hands in 5 years to something different. 4. Full size. I purchased an off-brand MX-Blue keyboard over the weekend and even though the size was a little smaller than I wanted, I could have learned to live with it. I guess it was off-brand as the Enter key was basically sitting at the detent level and other signs of being someone else's reject Suggestions would be appreciated.

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                            pmauriks
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                            Well, you can still buy type M keyboards. They are manufactured using the original tooling and sold by Unicomp. Reviewers do say that an original model in good condition is better than the Unicomp though - since over the years the tooling has worn a little. Personally, I've tried a lot of keyboards over the past few years. I'm currently using a Razer Chroma - which If you run Linux (or choose not to installed the spyware Razer keyboard drivers) has the best feel I've come across. It uses their green switches, which some people say are like Cherry Blue. I find Cherry Blues more resistant - and less easy to type with. My second preference is the Logitech G810 Orion with Romer-G, these are very tactile, much much lighter. The keys press with barely a breath on them. Quite a different feel.

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                            • M MadMyche

                              We'll just say I am a little picky, and old; and really don't want to change. I have been using the Microsoft Internet Keyboard based keyboard for 20+ years now, the last 15 years or so have all been the Pro version with USB connectivity. Me and my kb have an exclusive relationship; at the office and at home I have the same setup, including the MS Trackball Optical everywhere as well. Prior to this kb I was using Type M or F keyboards back to the 80s Now my home kb is near the point of no return. And they are getting hard to find. So I am going to purchase something new. What I want- 1. I want to keep the same KB angle and rear height. My hands are molded at this angle now. 2. I would like to retain the special purpose keys for email, web, and if I can media controls. 3. Durability. Don't want to have to retrain my hands in 5 years to something different. 4. Full size. I purchased an off-brand MX-Blue keyboard over the weekend and even though the size was a little smaller than I wanted, I could have learned to live with it. I guess it was off-brand as the Enter key was basically sitting at the detent level and other signs of being someone else's reject Suggestions would be appreciated.

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                              MadMyche
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                              I was able to locate another of the MS keyboards so the immediate crisis is over. I did stop at my local best buy (sic) and the 20 something wanted to sell me a chicklet-keyed wanna be laptop keyboard, as obviously I wasn't a gamer.

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