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  • M Marc Clifton

    https://www.productiondesignerscollective.org/single-post/2016/05/15/Connecting-The-Dots---2001-A-Space-Odyssey[^] on the inside, instead of this: https://mk0spaceflightnoa02a.kinstacdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/dm2_iss.jpg[^] Well, the point being, it's so cluttered!

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    Daniel Pfeffer
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    The ISS also has much less than a millionth of the useful volume (going by the [2001: A Space Odyssey Docking Sequence](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48rh85d4yTI))

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      The ISS also has much less than a millionth of the useful volume (going by the [2001: A Space Odyssey Docking Sequence](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48rh85d4yTI))

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      Jorgen Andersson
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      We need bigger rockets!

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        We need bigger rockets!

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        Jörgen Andersson wrote:

        We need bigger something better than rockets!

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          Jörgen Andersson wrote:

          We need bigger something better than rockets!

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          Jorgen Andersson
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          An elevator. With a really strong wire

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            An elevator. With a really strong wire

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            Marc Clifton
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            Jörgen Andersson wrote:

            An elevator.

            Space elevator - Wikipedia[^] Indeed!

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              An elevator. With a really strong wire

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              It's a good idea: Space elevator - Wikipedia[^]

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              • M Marc Clifton

                Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                An elevator.

                Space elevator - Wikipedia[^] Indeed!

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                Jorgen Andersson
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                But Tsiolkovsky's original suggestion was a tower.

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  It's a good idea: Space elevator - Wikipedia[^]

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                  Jorgen Andersson
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                  I know, the best part of that page is the calculations.

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                  • M Marc Clifton

                    Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                    An elevator.

                    Space elevator - Wikipedia[^] Indeed!

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                    There is a very good book by Arthur C. Clarke, The Fountains of Paradise, about the building of the first space elevator.

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                      We need bigger rockets!

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                      Alternatively, very tiny astronauts.

                      Ravings en masse^

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                      • M Marc Clifton

                        https://www.productiondesignerscollective.org/single-post/2016/05/15/Connecting-The-Dots---2001-A-Space-Odyssey[^] on the inside, instead of this: https://mk0spaceflightnoa02a.kinstacdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/dm2_iss.jpg[^] Well, the point being, it's so cluttered!

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                        • M Marc Clifton

                          https://www.productiondesignerscollective.org/single-post/2016/05/15/Connecting-The-Dots---2001-A-Space-Odyssey[^] on the inside, instead of this: https://mk0spaceflightnoa02a.kinstacdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/dm2_iss.jpg[^] Well, the point being, it's so cluttered!

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                          That's good :thumbsup:, the next time someone comments on state of my desk, my new (less antagonistic) response will be "If it's good enough for the space station, it's good enough for me!"

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                          • D Daniel Pfeffer

                            The ISS also has much less than a millionth of the useful volume (going by the [2001: A Space Odyssey Docking Sequence](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48rh85d4yTI))

                            Freedom is the freedom to say that two plus two make four. If that is granted, all else follows. -- 6079 Smith W.

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                            :thumbsup:

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                            • J Jorgen Andersson

                              I know, the best part of that page is the calculations.

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                              My surprise is the number of reasonably qualified people who have pursued this idea for 125 years, when the calculations show that with current materials (over those 125 years), we many magnitudes away from being able to build such an elevator. There is only one reasonable explanation for that: These people never did the calculations. (And they didn't have Wikipedia to give it to them :-)) Even today, we are theorizing about nanomaterials that might be strong enough. I didn't see any estimate of the total amount of nanotubes required, but it occurs to me that those USD 6 billion for building the whole thing is slightly on the optimistic side. If those estimates hold true, we might even use a similar solution for an electricity generator: Put a little extra weight on the counterweight to pull the rope slowly outwards. In the earth end, the rope is pulled from a huge spool; the rotation of the spool drives the generator (through an almost unimaginable gearbox that probably will require another nano-development of strong enough materials). Maybe we end up with such a demand for carbon that we can't allow coal to be burned for heating... :-)

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                              • M Marc Clifton

                                https://www.productiondesignerscollective.org/single-post/2016/05/15/Connecting-The-Dots---2001-A-Space-Odyssey[^] on the inside, instead of this: https://mk0spaceflightnoa02a.kinstacdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/dm2_iss.jpg[^] Well, the point being, it's so cluttered!

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                                I wonder if it started out looking less cluttered, and then, upgrades...

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                                • M Marc Clifton

                                  https://www.productiondesignerscollective.org/single-post/2016/05/15/Connecting-The-Dots---2001-A-Space-Odyssey[^] on the inside, instead of this: https://mk0spaceflightnoa02a.kinstacdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/dm2_iss.jpg[^] Well, the point being, it's so cluttered!

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                                  Co-incidentally I found this yesterday "Street View" of IIS International Space Station — Google Arts & Culture[^]

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                                    My surprise is the number of reasonably qualified people who have pursued this idea for 125 years, when the calculations show that with current materials (over those 125 years), we many magnitudes away from being able to build such an elevator. There is only one reasonable explanation for that: These people never did the calculations. (And they didn't have Wikipedia to give it to them :-)) Even today, we are theorizing about nanomaterials that might be strong enough. I didn't see any estimate of the total amount of nanotubes required, but it occurs to me that those USD 6 billion for building the whole thing is slightly on the optimistic side. If those estimates hold true, we might even use a similar solution for an electricity generator: Put a little extra weight on the counterweight to pull the rope slowly outwards. In the earth end, the rope is pulled from a huge spool; the rotation of the spool drives the generator (through an almost unimaginable gearbox that probably will require another nano-development of strong enough materials). Maybe we end up with such a demand for carbon that we can't allow coal to be burned for heating... :-)

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                                    Jorgen Andersson
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                                    Member 7989122 wrote:

                                    My surprise is the number of reasonably qualified people who have pursued this idea for 125 years

                                    People searching to solve the impossible are the one that makes science leap forward. The amount of things we can do or build today that was impossible 100 years ago is quite staggering. Then of course, the amount of things people thought would be easy to solve but still aren't is also really large. :)

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                                    • M Marc Clifton

                                      https://www.productiondesignerscollective.org/single-post/2016/05/15/Connecting-The-Dots---2001-A-Space-Odyssey[^] on the inside, instead of this: https://mk0spaceflightnoa02a.kinstacdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/dm2_iss.jpg[^] Well, the point being, it's so cluttered!

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                                      Super Lloyd
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                                      Close enough! :D

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