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  • C Chris Maunder

    IT's 2020. When are we going to get an "Update..." option within the app that updates this beast instead of us having to go to a website, download and manually install it. It's not like it's built using Visual Studio's guts or anything, and that VS has a fully integrated upgrader / installer, or anything. Driving. Me. Nuts.

    cheers Chris Maunder

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    PIEBALDconsult
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    Then my employer would ban its use because they couldn't control who has which version of what.

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    • G Gary R Wheeler

      The last version I used was 2014, and it was built using Visual Studio's guts, namely Visual Studio Code. On top of that, you had to download the full installer for SQL Server (several GB's) in order to get it. Unbelievable PITA. I am firmly convinced that everyone at Microsoft has a fiber optic link to the corporate LAN. That's the only thing I can think of that would make them believe that an 8GB or 12GB download for a utility app was reasonable. I am not looking forward to when I update our data base crap to whatever's new and shiny :sigh: .

      Software Zen: delete this;

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      Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

      I am firmly convinced that everyone at Microsoft has a fiber optic link to the corporate LAN. That's the only thing I can think of that would make them believe that an 8GB or 12GB download for a utility app was reasonable.

      I have the full offline installer for SSMS 18.6, and it's 534MB. Is this what you're talking about?

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        Gary R. Wheeler wrote:

        I am firmly convinced that everyone at Microsoft has a fiber optic link to the corporate LAN. That's the only thing I can think of that would make them believe that an 8GB or 12GB download for a utility app was reasonable.

        I have the full offline installer for SSMS 18.6, and it's 534MB. Is this what you're talking about?

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        Gary R Wheeler
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        No. They must have realized what an idiocy it was to have to download SQL Server just to get the management tool. My last attempt at this was with SQL Server 2014.

        Software Zen: delete this;

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        • C Chris Maunder

          IT's 2020. When are we going to get an "Update..." option within the app that updates this beast instead of us having to go to a website, download and manually install it. It's not like it's built using Visual Studio's guts or anything, and that VS has a fully integrated upgrader / installer, or anything. Driving. Me. Nuts.

          cheers Chris Maunder

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          clear throat... [Edit] Sorry forgot that. Maybe it was a only caching issue :-\

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          • C Chris Maunder

            IT's 2020. When are we going to get an "Update..." option within the app that updates this beast instead of us having to go to a website, download and manually install it. It's not like it's built using Visual Studio's guts or anything, and that VS has a fully integrated upgrader / installer, or anything. Driving. Me. Nuts.

            cheers Chris Maunder

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            Super Lloyd
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            Which reminds me.... Just updated to 18.6 :)

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            • C Chris Maunder

              IT's 2020. When are we going to get an "Update..." option within the app that updates this beast instead of us having to go to a website, download and manually install it. It's not like it's built using Visual Studio's guts or anything, and that VS has a fully integrated upgrader / installer, or anything. Driving. Me. Nuts.

              cheers Chris Maunder

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              Probably a DBA thing.

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              • C Chris Maunder

                IT's 2020. When are we going to get an "Update..." option within the app that updates this beast instead of us having to go to a website, download and manually install it. It's not like it's built using Visual Studio's guts or anything, and that VS has a fully integrated upgrader / installer, or anything. Driving. Me. Nuts.

                cheers Chris Maunder

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                Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                At least you CAN update SSMS... For me it fails on an ODBC driver update because the current driver can not be removed... (but if I remove manually it still fails because the current driver can not be removed)...

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                • C Chris Maunder

                  IT's 2020. When are we going to get an "Update..." option within the app that updates this beast instead of us having to go to a website, download and manually install it. It's not like it's built using Visual Studio's guts or anything, and that VS has a fully integrated upgrader / installer, or anything. Driving. Me. Nuts.

                  cheers Chris Maunder

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                  Pete OHanlon
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                  Poor Microsoft. Will we ever be happy with their updaters? Offer an external upgrader - people scream that they hate it. Offer an update from inside the application - people scream that they hate it. Do an automatic update - people scream that they hate it. They really can't win.

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                    Poor Microsoft. Will we ever be happy with their updaters? Offer an external upgrader - people scream that they hate it. Offer an update from inside the application - people scream that they hate it. Do an automatic update - people scream that they hate it. They really can't win.

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                    Chris Maunder
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                    I know. We're such an awesome audience for a product, aren't we?

                    cheers Chris Maunder

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                    • G Gary R Wheeler

                      No. They must have realized what an idiocy it was to have to download SQL Server just to get the management tool. My last attempt at this was with SQL Server 2014.

                      Software Zen: delete this;

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                      dandy72
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                      Right. They've long since split the SSMS download from the SQL download. This is the URL they keep updating to point to the most recent version: https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/mt238290.aspx

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                      • C Chris Maunder

                        I know. We're such an awesome audience for a product, aren't we?

                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                        Jorgen Andersson
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                        And still we pay for their products, because the free alternative isn't really an alternative. But then again, if we pay for something we have also earned the right to complain, right?

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