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  • M megaadam

    It's not like Android security is such a brightly shining star either.

    "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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    I would say it has nothing to do wit security, but more privacy... and privacy is what they carve their living from...

    "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

    "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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    • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

      I would say it has nothing to do wit security, but more privacy... and privacy is what they carve their living from...

      "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

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      OriginalGriff
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      *cough* "The fappening" *cough* They need a sharper knife ...

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      • M megaadam

        I wonder if anybody here can explain this: On my iPhone I NEVER let ANY app access my contacts. Despite this my Telegram [messaging-]app discovers my contacts, when friends sign up for Telegram. :confused::confused::confused: No it is not because they have me in their contacts/Telegram, they appear in Telegram with the nickname i have given them in my "Contacts". And please save your "Apple-fanboi-jokes" for a better opportunity. Thanks.

        "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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        Rage
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        Because that app accessed your contact despite of your refusal ?

        Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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        • M megaadam

          I wonder if anybody here can explain this: On my iPhone I NEVER let ANY app access my contacts. Despite this my Telegram [messaging-]app discovers my contacts, when friends sign up for Telegram. :confused::confused::confused: No it is not because they have me in their contacts/Telegram, they appear in Telegram with the nickname i have given them in my "Contacts". And please save your "Apple-fanboi-jokes" for a better opportunity. Thanks.

          "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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          David Crow
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          megaadam wrote:

          On my iPhone I NEVER let ANY app access my contacts.

          How are you verifying this? Are your contacts saved to some other location that the app may have access to?

          "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

          "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

          "You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles

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            megaadam wrote:

            On my iPhone I NEVER let ANY app access my contacts.

            How are you verifying this? Are your contacts saved to some other location that the app may have access to?

            "One man's wage rise is another man's price increase." - Harold Wilson

            "Fireproof doesn't mean the fire will never come. It means when the fire comes that you will be able to withstand it." - Michael Simmons

            "You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those who can do nothing for him." - James D. Miles

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            Rage
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            He answers "no" when the question arises by installation. Mwawaaaahahaa.

            Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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            • R Rage

              He answers "no" when the question arises by installation. Mwawaaaahahaa.

              Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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              F ES Sitecore
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              Bet he also clicks the "No tracking" option in his browser settings :)

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              • M megaadam

                It's not like Android security is such a brightly shining star either.

                "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                W Balboos GHB
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                megaadam wrote:

                It's not like Android security is such a brightly shining star either.

                At least they don't charge you a premium price for android - comes on a $50 flip phone.   Moreover, they don't threaten your warranty unless you only do business with them.

                Ravings en masse^

                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                • M megaadam

                  I wonder if anybody here can explain this: On my iPhone I NEVER let ANY app access my contacts. Despite this my Telegram [messaging-]app discovers my contacts, when friends sign up for Telegram. :confused::confused::confused: No it is not because they have me in their contacts/Telegram, they appear in Telegram with the nickname i have given them in my "Contacts". And please save your "Apple-fanboi-jokes" for a better opportunity. Thanks.

                  "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                  PRIVACY ISSUE DISCOVERED IN TELEGRAM MESSAGING APP xxxxx://blackmereconsulting.com/privacy-issue-discovered-in-telegram-messaging-app/ could be it sucked your contacts before you disabled its access... and then uploaded it to the cloud.. best thing is to try see if they have any data of your you can take and check and then delete your account and switch to some other app

                  Caveat Emptor. "Progress doesn't come from early risers – progress is made by lazy men looking for easier ways to do things." Lazarus Long

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                  • M megaadam

                    I wonder if anybody here can explain this: On my iPhone I NEVER let ANY app access my contacts. Despite this my Telegram [messaging-]app discovers my contacts, when friends sign up for Telegram. :confused::confused::confused: No it is not because they have me in their contacts/Telegram, they appear in Telegram with the nickname i have given them in my "Contacts". And please save your "Apple-fanboi-jokes" for a better opportunity. Thanks.

                    "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                    W Balboos GHB
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                    This link, below, gave me an idea you can try: The Lounge[^] Create some new nickname contacts - see if they propagate. Even just slightly change the spelling of a few (they could check/cull for valid contact list entries). If the updates show them perhaps you may wish to write apple a stern letter.

                    Ravings en masse^

                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                    • M megaadam

                      I wonder if anybody here can explain this: On my iPhone I NEVER let ANY app access my contacts. Despite this my Telegram [messaging-]app discovers my contacts, when friends sign up for Telegram. :confused::confused::confused: No it is not because they have me in their contacts/Telegram, they appear in Telegram with the nickname i have given them in my "Contacts". And please save your "Apple-fanboi-jokes" for a better opportunity. Thanks.

                      "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                      Lost User
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                      Well they have obviously (or maybe you just let them) breached the GDPR so you can sue them.

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                      • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                        I would say it has nothing to do wit security, but more privacy... and privacy is what they carve their living from...

                        "The only place where Success comes before Work is in the dictionary." Vidal Sassoon, 1928 - 2012

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                        Rick York
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                        Privacy, as in the lack of and you really have none.

                        "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                        • W W Balboos GHB

                          This link, below, gave me an idea you can try: The Lounge[^] Create some new nickname contacts - see if they propagate. Even just slightly change the spelling of a few (they could check/cull for valid contact list entries). If the updates show them perhaps you may wish to write apple a stern letter.

                          Ravings en masse^

                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                          DJ van Wyk
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                          They probably only allow fan mail (at a premium). There is no stern letter option.

                          My plan is to live forever ... so far so good

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                          • M megaadam

                            I wonder if anybody here can explain this: On my iPhone I NEVER let ANY app access my contacts. Despite this my Telegram [messaging-]app discovers my contacts, when friends sign up for Telegram. :confused::confused::confused: No it is not because they have me in their contacts/Telegram, they appear in Telegram with the nickname i have given them in my "Contacts". And please save your "Apple-fanboi-jokes" for a better opportunity. Thanks.

                            "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                            Ri_
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                            Did you check under Settings | Privacy | Contacts whether Telegram is on the list? I see Telegram does have access to my Contacts, even though I can't recall expressly giving it. I've turned off Contacts access now, I'd like to see what happens. Only way to really know would be to uninstall the app, reinstall, expressly forbid Contacts access, and then check in the Settings whether it's got access anyway.

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                            • M megaadam

                              I wonder if anybody here can explain this: On my iPhone I NEVER let ANY app access my contacts. Despite this my Telegram [messaging-]app discovers my contacts, when friends sign up for Telegram. :confused::confused::confused: No it is not because they have me in their contacts/Telegram, they appear in Telegram with the nickname i have given them in my "Contacts". And please save your "Apple-fanboi-jokes" for a better opportunity. Thanks.

                              "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                              englebart
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                              Assuming all privacy etc is working, could it be iOS converting a phone number or email into a "friendly" name for the app? Of course, if the app is allowed to "see" the friendly name, then there is some leakage. This should be provable by moving a phone number or email to a new contact. If iOS allows phone-local contacts like android, then try it with one of those.

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                              • M megaadam

                                No. As explained in my OP. How would their app know what nicknames I have given them?

                                "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going"

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                                Hoosier Daddy
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                                Just a coincidence. Before he changed it, your boss' name was actually f*** Face.

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                                • E englebart

                                  Assuming all privacy etc is working, could it be iOS converting a phone number or email into a "friendly" name for the app? Of course, if the app is allowed to "see" the friendly name, then there is some leakage. This should be provable by moving a phone number or email to a new contact. If iOS allows phone-local contacts like android, then try it with one of those.

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                                  ajhampson
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                                  This is what I was going to suggest. Declining app access to your contacts means it can't just hoover them up wholesale and use them in the app. It can't send everyone in your contacts an email or text asking them to get the app, or transfer all your contacts to a contact list in the app. Sounds like that worked correctly. But iOS does have a "feature" where it will check your contacts for a number and display the contact name instead of the number. So this could be what is happening. Unless the app is doing a screen capture and converting that to text, it still wouldn't have access to that contact information. I'm not sure if this is an API or an integral part of the OS, but it's caused some misunderstandings before IIRC.

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