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    So basically due to injury in one of my legs, I have to reduce the strain on my legs for a few weeks. Driving is not the issue but when in city and waiting for signals, I have to keep my legs on the brake to prevent the car from going forward or backward (neutral gear) due to inclinations and I do not want to keep pressing on the brake. So What I do it using my hand brake to keep the car still. Whats is the downside of it ?

    cheers,

    Super

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      So basically due to injury in one of my legs, I have to reduce the strain on my legs for a few weeks. Driving is not the issue but when in city and waiting for signals, I have to keep my legs on the brake to prevent the car from going forward or backward (neutral gear) due to inclinations and I do not want to keep pressing on the brake. So What I do it using my hand brake to keep the car still. Whats is the downside of it ?

      cheers,

      Super

      ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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      Well, it's better than slightly easing off the clutch, innit! Assuming the hand brake controls a cable, it could eventually fail from overuse, but I'd hope that it could handle the extra use for a few weeks. I know very little about these things so had better shut up before I embarrass myself, if I haven't already.

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        So basically due to injury in one of my legs, I have to reduce the strain on my legs for a few weeks. Driving is not the issue but when in city and waiting for signals, I have to keep my legs on the brake to prevent the car from going forward or backward (neutral gear) due to inclinations and I do not want to keep pressing on the brake. So What I do it using my hand brake to keep the car still. Whats is the downside of it ?

        cheers,

        Super

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        That's what you are supposed to do, unless you are born with three legs! :laugh: In the uk, it's a requirement as set out in the Highway Code:

        the Offficial Highway Code[^]:

        In stationary queues of traffic, drivers should apply the parking brake and, once the following traffic has stopped, take their foot off the footbrake to deactivate the vehicle brake lights. This will minimise glare to road users behind until the traffic moves again. Law RVLR reg 27

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          Well, it's better than slightly easing off the clutch, innit! Assuming the hand brake controls a cable, it could eventually fail from overuse, but I'd hope that it could handle the extra use for a few weeks. I know very little about these things so had better shut up before I embarrass myself, if I haven't already.

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          Greg Utas wrote:

          Assuming the hand brake controls a cable, it could eventually fail from overuse

          You set the handbrake after every drive, and it stays set until the next drive. Given that most of us spend most of our time out of the car, I doubt the handbrake will fail because of a few extra pulls.

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            Greg Utas wrote:

            Assuming the hand brake controls a cable, it could eventually fail from overuse

            You set the handbrake after every drive, and it stays set until the next drive. Given that most of us spend most of our time out of the car, I doubt the handbrake will fail because of a few extra pulls.

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            The foot-controlled parking brake on our vehicle failed several years ago. Mind you, it's 13 years old. Edit: Quite possibly explained by its entire lifetime having been spent in places where roads are salted during winter.

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            • S super

              So basically due to injury in one of my legs, I have to reduce the strain on my legs for a few weeks. Driving is not the issue but when in city and waiting for signals, I have to keep my legs on the brake to prevent the car from going forward or backward (neutral gear) due to inclinations and I do not want to keep pressing on the brake. So What I do it using my hand brake to keep the car still. Whats is the downside of it ?

              cheers,

              Super

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              As you not used to drive that way, you will try to go on with handbrake locked... :-D

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                That's what you are supposed to do, unless you are born with three legs! :laugh: In the uk, it's a requirement as set out in the Highway Code:

                the Offficial Highway Code[^]:

                In stationary queues of traffic, drivers should apply the parking brake and, once the following traffic has stopped, take their foot off the footbrake to deactivate the vehicle brake lights. This will minimise glare to road users behind until the traffic moves again. Law RVLR reg 27

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                It's no wonder that so many former British colonies are cursed with bureaucracy. Minimizing glare to road users behind a stopped line of vehicles? What could be more important? If you have an automatic, what are you supposed to do? Put it in neutral and do this? I'd venture it was written before anyone had an automatic and hasn't been revised.

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                • Greg UtasG Greg Utas

                  The foot-controlled parking brake on our vehicle failed several years ago. Mind you, it's 13 years old. Edit: Quite possibly explained by its entire lifetime having been spent in places where roads are salted during winter.

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                  Something over half a century ago, my father's car had one of those "pull the handle under the dash" handbrakes. One day I grabbed it hard, the cable parted and I smashed my elbow into the door pillar. Many naughty words...

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                    It's no wonder that so many former British colonies are cursed with bureaucracy. Minimizing glare to road users behind a stopped line of vehicles? What could be more important? If you have an automatic, what are you supposed to do? Put it in neutral and do this? I'd venture it was written before anyone had an automatic and hasn't been revised.

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                    Put it in "Park", apply the parking brake, and take your foot off the brake pedal.

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      That's what you are supposed to do, unless you are born with three legs! :laugh: In the uk, it's a requirement as set out in the Highway Code:

                      the Offficial Highway Code[^]:

                      In stationary queues of traffic, drivers should apply the parking brake and, once the following traffic has stopped, take their foot off the footbrake to deactivate the vehicle brake lights. This will minimise glare to road users behind until the traffic moves again. Law RVLR reg 27

                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                      Wow, there are coding guidelines for traffic? :omg: I just skimmed over the start of it, and already stumbled over some curiosity (IMHO) among the pedestrian guidelines:

                      Quote:

                      2. If there is no pavement, keep to the right-hand side of the road so that you can see oncoming traffic. You should take extra care and - be prepared to walk in single file, especially on narrow roads or in poor light - keep close to the side of the road. It may be safer to cross the road well before a sharp right-hand bend so that oncoming traffic has a better chance of seeing you. Cross back after the bend.

                      Does anyone actually do that? I mean, walking on the right side of the road (in a country where cars drive on the left side) makes total sense. But then, crossing to the left side and continuing along the long side of the curve when you encounter a right bend :confused: If anything, I'd do the opposite: cross over to the left sight upon encountering a left-hand bend, to cut a corner!

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        Put it in "Park", apply the parking brake, and take your foot off the brake pedal.

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                        They want the parking brake on even though it's in "Park"? :laugh: At least it'll present anyone who rear-ends you with a nice repair bill. But you're trolling me, right? Right??

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                          Something over half a century ago, my father's car had one of those "pull the handle under the dash" handbrakes. One day I grabbed it hard, the cable parted and I smashed my elbow into the door pillar. Many naughty words...

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                          About 5 or 10 years ago, I pulled up at the testing station for my MOT* pulled on the handbrake ... and the cable snapped. Also many naughty words ... * MOT is the compulsory annual vehicle check in the UK for all vehicles over three years old to ensure roadworthiness. It used to check you had tread on your tires, the lights worked, and your brakes were capable of stopping you - but it's been expanded to the point where you can fail for having a missing dust cap on your spare tire, or a dashboard light that doesn't come on or go off at the right time.

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                            They want the parking brake on even though it's in "Park"? :laugh: At least it'll present anyone who rear-ends you with a nice repair bill. But you're trolling me, right? Right??

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                            Not even slightly. Unless an auto is in Park it's effectively in neutral, and can roll back to hit the car behind. Since you are supposed to use your right foot to work the brake and throttle, you need the handbrake on to pull away. Don't blame me, a lot of serious grey men in serious grey suits nibbled biscuits and sipped tea really quietly for weeks while discussing (in committee of course) every nuance of those rules ...

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                            "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                              Wow, there are coding guidelines for traffic? :omg: I just skimmed over the start of it, and already stumbled over some curiosity (IMHO) among the pedestrian guidelines:

                              Quote:

                              2. If there is no pavement, keep to the right-hand side of the road so that you can see oncoming traffic. You should take extra care and - be prepared to walk in single file, especially on narrow roads or in poor light - keep close to the side of the road. It may be safer to cross the road well before a sharp right-hand bend so that oncoming traffic has a better chance of seeing you. Cross back after the bend.

                              Does anyone actually do that? I mean, walking on the right side of the road (in a country where cars drive on the left side) makes total sense. But then, crossing to the left side and continuing along the long side of the curve when you encounter a right bend :confused: If anything, I'd do the opposite: cross over to the left sight upon encountering a left-hand bend, to cut a corner!

                              GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)

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                              Stefan_Lang wrote:

                              Does anyone actually do that?

                              Nah, of course not. Pedestrians seem to assume that drivers are blessed with X-Ray vision - and usually choose to wear dark clothing on the unlit country lanes with no pavement.

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                                Not even slightly. Unless an auto is in Park it's effectively in neutral, and can roll back to hit the car behind. Since you are supposed to use your right foot to work the brake and throttle, you need the handbrake on to pull away. Don't blame me, a lot of serious grey men in serious grey suits nibbled biscuits and sipped tea really quietly for weeks while discussing (in committee of course) every nuance of those rules ...

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                                A former colleague, from a former colony, first got his driving license in the UK. To turn a corner, he was taught to push and pull on the steering wheel. When he came to Canada and took his driver's test, he failed because of this. On this side of the pond, you're taught to turn using the hand-over-hand method.

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                                  So basically due to injury in one of my legs, I have to reduce the strain on my legs for a few weeks. Driving is not the issue but when in city and waiting for signals, I have to keep my legs on the brake to prevent the car from going forward or backward (neutral gear) due to inclinations and I do not want to keep pressing on the brake. So What I do it using my hand brake to keep the car still. Whats is the downside of it ?

                                  cheers,

                                  Super

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                                  I do that at draw bridges - you can get quite old waiting for them to finally return travel to the land vehicles. Actually, I shut the engine off, altogether. Just something I've done in the past: since we've owned nothing but standard transmissions for many years, we (myself and Mrs. Wife) are quite used to driving with both feet. For a time, however, when we had the kids at home, etc., we needed a vehicle with bench seats and ended up with an automatic transmission. I trained myself to drive that with both feet instead of one doing all the work - in anticipation of returning to standard transmissions. This might work for you, depending upon which leg is angry with you. In US (and most of the civilized world), the accelerator and break pedal is operated with the right foot and the left foot either works the clutch pedal or does nothing. Maybe you can adapt to other-foot breaking?

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                                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                    That's what you are supposed to do, unless you are born with three legs! :laugh: In the uk, it's a requirement as set out in the Highway Code:

                                    the Offficial Highway Code[^]:

                                    In stationary queues of traffic, drivers should apply the parking brake and, once the following traffic has stopped, take their foot off the footbrake to deactivate the vehicle brake lights. This will minimise glare to road users behind until the traffic moves again. Law RVLR reg 27

                                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                                    OriginalGriff wrote:

                                    In stationary queues of traffic, drivers should apply the parking brake and, once the following traffic has stopped, take their foot off the footbrake to deactivate the vehicle brake lights. This will minimise glare to road users behind until the traffic moves again. Law RVLR reg 27

                                    Wow, Did not know it was supposed to be like this?

                                    cheers,

                                    Super

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                                      The foot-controlled parking brake on our vehicle failed several years ago. Mind you, it's 13 years old. Edit: Quite possibly explained by its entire lifetime having been spent in places where roads are salted during winter.

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                                      Cars should be serviced on a regular basis. If you have your car serviced at a proper garage, they will check the brakes and other safety equipment, and replace anything that looks like it is failing. This may be expensive in money, but the lives of my family are more than worth it!

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                                        About 5 or 10 years ago, I pulled up at the testing station for my MOT* pulled on the handbrake ... and the cable snapped. Also many naughty words ... * MOT is the compulsory annual vehicle check in the UK for all vehicles over three years old to ensure roadworthiness. It used to check you had tread on your tires, the lights worked, and your brakes were capable of stopping you - but it's been expanded to the point where you can fail for having a missing dust cap on your spare tire, or a dashboard light that doesn't come on or go off at the right time.

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                                        That sort of wearing doesn't happen overnight. How often did you (or the garage mechanics) check the cables to ensure that they weren't worn?

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                                          OriginalGriff wrote:

                                          In stationary queues of traffic, drivers should apply the parking brake and, once the following traffic has stopped, take their foot off the footbrake to deactivate the vehicle brake lights. This will minimise glare to road users behind until the traffic moves again. Law RVLR reg 27

                                          Wow, Did not know it was supposed to be like this?

                                          cheers,

                                          Super

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                                          super wrote:

                                          Did not know it was supposed to be like this?

                                          It's not, but it is. :laugh:

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