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  • O obermd

    So far, every single cent spent on space has been spent here on Earth. Microcomputer technology, pacemakers, hearing aids, Teflon (yup - byproduct of the Gemini program), and a lot more is a direct result of the US Space Program.

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    ZurdoDev
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    Possibly. But that does not negate what I said.

    Social Media - A platform that makes it easier for the crazies to find each other. Everyone is born right handed. Only the strongest overcome it. Fight for left-handed rights and hand equality.

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      At the rate we're destroying this planet we better hurry our colonization efforts.

      I'm not sure how many cookies it makes to be happy, but so far it's not 27. JaxCoder.com

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      rhyous
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      I laugh anytime I see people calling doomsday on planet earth. Do poeple who think we are destroying earth only live in highly dense cities? Most of the world is unoccupied, there is room to spare. In the US we call them Fly-Over states because there is nothing there and they are largest part of our country. We haven't even started trying to repair earth because it is not broken. There is no evidence it is dying, just warming. The world will change. It constantly changes. Temperatures and weather fluxuates, earthquakes happen, techtonic plates move, etc. We can now desalinize the ocean, but how many cities on the coast are actually doing this? Hardly any. We can pipe oil and gas around the world, but we haven't more than considered piping desalinized ocean water places. We haven't even tried to terraform. What would happen if we terraformed the Sahara desert into a lush green forest? How would that forest affect our atmosphere to have more forest. Lower our carbon ommissions is only part of it. Increasing the plant life is another part. Everything Nasa does will help us here on earth. The best part of trying to inhabit a planet such as the moon is we learn terraforming skills that we can apply to increase vegetation here on earth, thus lowering our carbon footprint. Imagine a 3d printer that is solar powered than can scoop silicates (dirt, sand, etc) from the ground and make an air-tight glass dome for places like the moon or mars. Imagine testing this in the Sahara and creating thousands of miles of glass domes to use a green houses to erase the desert and replace it with green life. We could create waterways to below sea-level zones, allowing ocean to flow in an out, such as the dead sea and death valley, which will add life, add moisture to the surrounding air and increase green life in those areas. What if we gain the technology to mine asteroids while trying to terraform the moon and mars, could we mine oxygen and other healthy air and return it to earth? The next two-hundred years is going to fun to be alive, to bad I'll only get about 50 more years of it.

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        I laugh anytime I see people calling doomsday on planet earth. Do poeple who think we are destroying earth only live in highly dense cities? Most of the world is unoccupied, there is room to spare. In the US we call them Fly-Over states because there is nothing there and they are largest part of our country. We haven't even started trying to repair earth because it is not broken. There is no evidence it is dying, just warming. The world will change. It constantly changes. Temperatures and weather fluxuates, earthquakes happen, techtonic plates move, etc. We can now desalinize the ocean, but how many cities on the coast are actually doing this? Hardly any. We can pipe oil and gas around the world, but we haven't more than considered piping desalinized ocean water places. We haven't even tried to terraform. What would happen if we terraformed the Sahara desert into a lush green forest? How would that forest affect our atmosphere to have more forest. Lower our carbon ommissions is only part of it. Increasing the plant life is another part. Everything Nasa does will help us here on earth. The best part of trying to inhabit a planet such as the moon is we learn terraforming skills that we can apply to increase vegetation here on earth, thus lowering our carbon footprint. Imagine a 3d printer that is solar powered than can scoop silicates (dirt, sand, etc) from the ground and make an air-tight glass dome for places like the moon or mars. Imagine testing this in the Sahara and creating thousands of miles of glass domes to use a green houses to erase the desert and replace it with green life. We could create waterways to below sea-level zones, allowing ocean to flow in an out, such as the dead sea and death valley, which will add life, add moisture to the surrounding air and increase green life in those areas. What if we gain the technology to mine asteroids while trying to terraform the moon and mars, could we mine oxygen and other healthy air and return it to earth? The next two-hundred years is going to fun to be alive, to bad I'll only get about 50 more years of it.

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        How many garbage/plastic continents are there now? Last I heard about 5. Drinking water is going to become a big problem because farmers are using wells to water their crops. Gas and oil are finite, how long before they're depleted? I could go on but thats a pretty good start.

        I'm not sure how many cookies it makes to be happy, but so far it's not 27. JaxCoder.com

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        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          Nearly fifty years ago Apollo 17 was the last manned mission to the moon. Now NASA Artemis[^] is going back, aiming to land a crew in 2024. Thank :elephant: for that: we should have moon bases and a colony on Mars by now!

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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          Yeah, sounds great. Totally not a political deflection from the worst position the US has been in for decades. I can't wait to watch the Trump Ship 1 take off from Trump Space Center, land at Trump Base, and set up Trump Colony to build the new Trump Tower. It will be the tallest building on the Trump Moon! Right next to the Putin Condominium Complex. I can totally Seig it coming. Thanks for taking one of the last places I peruse to dump some politics into.

          "My software stacks are so old the frameworks have a termite problem." - Me, probably

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            Nearly fifty years ago Apollo 17 was the last manned mission to the moon. Now NASA Artemis[^] is going back, aiming to land a crew in 2024. Thank :elephant: for that: we should have moon bases and a colony on Mars by now!

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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            We HAVE bases on the Moon AND Mars but it is not acknowledged in the media! It is also part of the reason for the new "Space Force". The military has had ENOUGH of the secrecy and wants to de-classify more of the 6,000+ classified patents on health, anti-gravity, "free" energy and more. Anti-gravity craft are perhaps the biggest secret of the last 100 or so years! I know what you might say. If they didn't land on the White House lawn, UFO's aren't real. About 200 generals and admirals are behind Trump to start revealing more this stuff as soon as the "swamp" gets cleaned up some more. However unfortunately the "deep state" still controls the 6 major media companies. The result? The media has already elected Biden and they cast Trump as the worst president ever! Biden is most always shown smiling and Trump is shown in some unfavorable news article as grumpy,angry,frowning etc about 98% of the time. When has this ever happened with any other president running for a 2nd term? Anyway, it may be one of the most historic, contested and drawn-out elections ever! ;)

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              We HAVE bases on the Moon AND Mars but it is not acknowledged in the media! It is also part of the reason for the new "Space Force". The military has had ENOUGH of the secrecy and wants to de-classify more of the 6,000+ classified patents on health, anti-gravity, "free" energy and more. Anti-gravity craft are perhaps the biggest secret of the last 100 or so years! I know what you might say. If they didn't land on the White House lawn, UFO's aren't real. About 200 generals and admirals are behind Trump to start revealing more this stuff as soon as the "swamp" gets cleaned up some more. However unfortunately the "deep state" still controls the 6 major media companies. The result? The media has already elected Biden and they cast Trump as the worst president ever! Biden is most always shown smiling and Trump is shown in some unfavorable news article as grumpy,angry,frowning etc about 98% of the time. When has this ever happened with any other president running for a 2nd term? Anyway, it may be one of the most historic, contested and drawn-out elections ever! ;)

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              OriginalGriff
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              Be careful. You are either right on the edge of Rule 4, or a bit over it. That's not a good place to be ... if you want to keep your account open, anyway.

              Rules at the top of the forum:

              4. No politics (including enviro-politics[^]), no sex, no religion. This is a community for software development. There are plenty of other sites that are far more appropriate for these discussions.

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                Nearly fifty years ago Apollo 17 was the last manned mission to the moon. Now NASA Artemis[^] is going back, aiming to land a crew in 2024. Thank :elephant: for that: we should have moon bases and a colony on Mars by now!

                "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                I'll believe it when I see it. Who wants to bet that in 2023 they will scrap the SLS and buy SpaceX Falcon Heavy or Starship rides to the moon? I want to live long enough to watch the first manned Mars landing.

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                • S Steve Naidamast

                  Sounds just like today down in the DC Swamp...

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                  Steve Naidamast wrote:

                  DC Swamp...

                  Sewer

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    Nearly fifty years ago Apollo 17 was the last manned mission to the moon. Now NASA Artemis[^] is going back, aiming to land a crew in 2024. Thank :elephant: for that: we should have moon bases and a colony on Mars by now!

                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt AntiTwitter: @DalekDave is now a follower!

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                    ormonds
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                    A trick question for The Chase in the twenty second century will be "What century did mankind first land on the moon?".

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                    • M Mike Hankey

                      How many garbage/plastic continents are there now? Last I heard about 5. Drinking water is going to become a big problem because farmers are using wells to water their crops. Gas and oil are finite, how long before they're depleted? I could go on but thats a pretty good start.

                      I'm not sure how many cookies it makes to be happy, but so far it's not 27. JaxCoder.com

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                      rhyous
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                      Won't be hard to take care of the plastic soon. [Plastic Eating bacteria](https://www.sciencealert.com/new-plastic-munching-bacteria-could-fuel-a-recycling-revolution) And I already covered water. There is plenty of that and always will be. Desalinization. Terraforming, creating a pipe or waterway flow to the Dead Sea and Death Valley and other below-sea-level areas. If we piped into Death Valley and back out, we could have a mini-ocean, as big as the Great Salt Lake. The air from the west rises over the Sierra Nevadas and drops all its humidity, and dry air travels over western California, Nevada, Utah, etc. That is why it is a desert. The air is dry and sucks up all the water. With Death Valley filled with water, that dry air would absorb water, and the entire Nevada and Utah deserts would begin to thrive. The rainfall and snowfall would increase in the Rocky Mountains, filling the lakes, rivers, reservoirs, etc. Creating more water for the entire South West with only the effort to build two pipes. More vegetation would grow in the area, which would aid in oxygen. Before we start declaring doomsday, we should have at least tried a few things first. Let wait to declare doomsday until all the coastal cities have desalinization plants and still lack water. As for now, other than building reservoirs, and dabbling in desalinization, what have we tried?

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