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  • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

    Ok, now give it a name that references literature, something like "Quixote Garbage Collector". Then make a slogan that's inspired by LOTR, maybe "I am Gandalf the White and I've come to collect your garbage" or "There is no curse in Elvish, Entish, or the tongues of Men for this garbage collector." Now live out your life as Facebook, Google, Microsoft or Apple buys you out for quintagazillions$$$ and share some with me :D (For those who miss the joke, read post below)

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    CodeWraith
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    You don't simply collect Garbage in Mordor! :-)

    I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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    • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

      Yeah which is why i don't use it. I have StaticMemoryPool<C> which can allocate a fixed amount of data from the heap or the stack (capacity C known at compile time) and DynamicMemoryPool which allocates a capacity specified at runtime, but always from the heap. using dynamic stack allocations is messy because its intertwined with scope. Plus it goes out of scope with the function ends making wrapping it not a thing. Maybe that's why it's warned against. *shrug* I really don't know.

      Real programmers use butterflies

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      W Balboos GHB
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      It's only scope, certainly how I used it, was within the function - scope was never a problem. Memory wasn't humongous, then, so allocations were done with care, anyway. There was expanded and extended memory.* It's built in (usually) and automatic. About the only complaint I found really valid is that it's existence in a compiler is not (or was not) guaranteed as it was an official standard. It happened to be everywhere I was (QuickC, MS-C, Wacom-C) on DOS and NT, manly; Now I live in a stateless world of web development. I will say, however, that with the 400 users, an occasional server request gets an out-of-memory error. I increased it in php.ini a couple of times, but for the most part, the DBA and I share info and he forces filters them to not ask for a million records. A better long-term solution. *I made a page-swapper so I could access lots of it smoothly beyond the 64K in the original page frame.

      Ravings en masse^

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        You don't simply collect Garbage in Mordor! :-)

        I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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        Jorgen Andersson
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        Garbage shall not pass.

        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Never stop dreaming - Freddie Kruger

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          Garbage shall not pass.

          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Never stop dreaming - Freddie Kruger

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          I reserve that one for some unit test. "YOU ! Shall! Not! Pass!" :-)

          I have lived with several Zen masters - all of them were cats. His last invention was an evil Lasagna. It didn't kill anyone, and it actually tasted pretty good.

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          • raddevusR raddevus

            How much can you sell it for? And/or can you get 1 million (or more) devs to use it? That's our modern (cynical) measure for success so get on board. :rolleyes:

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            raddevus wrote:

            How much can you sell it for?

            That's capitalism, and htcw does not believe in that. :)

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            • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

              I needed some garbage-collector like advantages without the overhead so I wrote a 123 line file to give me exactly that. I love C++, and right now I don't know why I ever messed with .NET. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: I'm usually not one to holy roll about technology but this language absolutely rules. The only downside with it is it hides nothing (and it doesn't parse properly**), but hiding nothing is just as big an advantage as a liability. Oh how I missed you, C++. ** C++ should really be parsed with a GLR parser so you don't have to worry about incomplete types being a thing.

              Real programmers use butterflies

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              Sure, C++ is love, but at what price does this "love" cost? your soul, I am sure. We are talking about C++ here. :laugh:

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              • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                I needed some garbage-collector like advantages without the overhead so I wrote a 123 line file to give me exactly that. I love C++, and right now I don't know why I ever messed with .NET. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: I'm usually not one to holy roll about technology but this language absolutely rules. The only downside with it is it hides nothing (and it doesn't parse properly**), but hiding nothing is just as big an advantage as a liability. Oh how I missed you, C++. ** C++ should really be parsed with a GLR parser so you don't have to worry about incomplete types being a thing.

                Real programmers use butterflies

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                What's a line of code?

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                  What's a line of code?

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                  honey the codewitch
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                  magic! :laugh:

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                  • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                    It doesn't really do garbage collection as such. As an analogy imagine the garbage man came once a week and burned your house down. It's much more time and space efficient than taking out the trash. You can't actually delete objects in my scheme, only allocate to pools. You can recycle entire pools though, manually, freeing (invalidating) all pointers (or objects) therein. Doing it that way makes it fast fast fast and it works on constrained memory environments. Also it was easy to code.

                    Real programmers use butterflies

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                    Sander Rossel
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                    honey the codewitch wrote:

                    burned your house down. It's much more time and space efficient than taking out the trash.

                    How the heck is burning down a house every week efficient? :laugh:

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                    • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                      honey the codewitch wrote:

                      burned your house down. It's much more time and space efficient than taking out the trash.

                      How the heck is burning down a house every week efficient? :laugh:

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                      honey the codewitch
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                      It saves you from having to take the garbage out. ;P

                      Real programmers use butterflies

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                        Sure, C++ is love, but at what price does this "love" cost? your soul, I am sure. We are talking about C++ here. :laugh:

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                        honey the codewitch
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                        My soul? Oh that old thing? I think I traded it for some concert tickets back in the day.

                        Real programmers use butterflies

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                        • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                          It saves you from having to take the garbage out. ;P

                          Real programmers use butterflies

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                          Sander Rossel
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                          That's more like deleting your entire application to solve a single bug... :~ Maybe you just don't know how analogies work? :laugh:

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                          • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                            It doesn't really do garbage collection as such. As an analogy imagine the garbage man came once a week and burned your house down. It's much more time and space efficient than taking out the trash. You can't actually delete objects in my scheme, only allocate to pools. You can recycle entire pools though, manually, freeing (invalidating) all pointers (or objects) therein. Doing it that way makes it fast fast fast and it works on constrained memory environments. Also it was easy to code.

                            Real programmers use butterflies

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                            Article methinks - I think you should write a book - *Random thoughts of a clever mad Witch* :-D

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                            • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                              I needed some garbage-collector like advantages without the overhead so I wrote a 123 line file to give me exactly that. I love C++, and right now I don't know why I ever messed with .NET. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: I'm usually not one to holy roll about technology but this language absolutely rules. The only downside with it is it hides nothing (and it doesn't parse properly**), but hiding nothing is just as big an advantage as a liability. Oh how I missed you, C++. ** C++ should really be parsed with a GLR parser so you don't have to worry about incomplete types being a thing.

                              Real programmers use butterflies

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                              Also confusing language and libraries. e.g. C++ managed and unmanaged.

                              It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food

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                              • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                                I needed some garbage-collector like advantages without the overhead so I wrote a 123 line file to give me exactly that. I love C++, and right now I don't know why I ever messed with .NET. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: I'm usually not one to holy roll about technology but this language absolutely rules. The only downside with it is it hides nothing (and it doesn't parse properly**), but hiding nothing is just as big an advantage as a liability. Oh how I missed you, C++. ** C++ should really be parsed with a GLR parser so you don't have to worry about incomplete types being a thing.

                                Real programmers use butterflies

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                                Some of us find the light again. Some of us never lose it.

                                "They have a consciousness, they have a life, they have a soul! Damn you! Let the rabbits wear glasses! Save our brothers! Can I get an amen?"

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                                • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                                  I needed some garbage-collector like advantages without the overhead so I wrote a 123 line file to give me exactly that. I love C++, and right now I don't know why I ever messed with .NET. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: I'm usually not one to holy roll about technology but this language absolutely rules. The only downside with it is it hides nothing (and it doesn't parse properly**), but hiding nothing is just as big an advantage as a liability. Oh how I missed you, C++. ** C++ should really be parsed with a GLR parser so you don't have to worry about incomplete types being a thing.

                                  Real programmers use butterflies

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                                  When I saw your post, I wondered how badly you were going to get flamed, given the popularity of C# on this site. I never thought this thread would stay so civilized, let alone be fairly positive. :)

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                                    I needed some garbage-collector like advantages without the overhead so I wrote a 123 line file to give me exactly that. I love C++, and right now I don't know why I ever messed with .NET. :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: I'm usually not one to holy roll about technology but this language absolutely rules. The only downside with it is it hides nothing (and it doesn't parse properly**), but hiding nothing is just as big an advantage as a liability. Oh how I missed you, C++. ** C++ should really be parsed with a GLR parser so you don't have to worry about incomplete types being a thing.

                                    Real programmers use butterflies

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                                    I don't hate C++, but I don't share your sentiments. This is almost certainly my own failing, though—it's not a problem with the language so much (which is alright, I guess), I just always end up fighting with the compiler/linker. I've never worked with C++ enough to become much more than minimally competent with it.

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                                    • honey the codewitchH honey the codewitch

                                      I gave it away under the MIT license. It was just a little bit of code anyway.

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                                      honey the codewitch wrote:

                                      I gave it away under the MIT license.

                                      GitHub link, or it didn't happen. :laugh:

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                                        honey the codewitch wrote:

                                        I gave it away under the MIT license.

                                        GitHub link, or it didn't happen. :laugh:

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                                        GitHub - codewitch-honey-crisis/MemoryPool: Small fixed size sequential memory pool allocators for constrained memory environments[^] :laugh:

                                        Real programmers use butterflies

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                                          I don't hate C++, but I don't share your sentiments. This is almost certainly my own failing, though—it's not a problem with the language so much (which is alright, I guess), I just always end up fighting with the compiler/linker. I've never worked with C++ enough to become much more than minimally competent with it.

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                                          There's a certain point - and it can take awhile with C++ - where you reach a level that it is no longer intimidating or as frustrating. True, I did recently spend all morning and ask a stackoverflow question because I missed a "=0" at the end of one of my functions and was responded to with "missing vtable for class" or some such, but that's life, you know? :laugh:

                                          Real programmers use butterflies

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