Bad, Bad Webpage Coders
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My wife applied for a job last night. The application page wasn't bad at all. Nice clean layout, a simple process. But then attempting to fill in her "Profile" for her account... It would accept nothing but US-format telephone numbers. This is an international company...that won't accept international phone numbers. Address? A dropdown pick list of countries that fills a picklist of "states" when a country is chosen. That worked fine. But when you attempt to save, you get nothing but errors, saying "Country" must be United States. Despite being given the choice of every other country in the world. I didn't dig into it to see where they're doing their page validation, but I'm assuming backend because the error message looked very SQLy.
We won't sit down. We won't shut up. We won't go quietly away. YouTube, and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc. and FB
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My wife applied for a job last night. The application page wasn't bad at all. Nice clean layout, a simple process. But then attempting to fill in her "Profile" for her account... It would accept nothing but US-format telephone numbers. This is an international company...that won't accept international phone numbers. Address? A dropdown pick list of countries that fills a picklist of "states" when a country is chosen. That worked fine. But when you attempt to save, you get nothing but errors, saying "Country" must be United States. Despite being given the choice of every other country in the world. I didn't dig into it to see where they're doing their page validation, but I'm assuming backend because the error message looked very SQLy.
We won't sit down. We won't shut up. We won't go quietly away. YouTube, and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc. and FB
I worked for a US company for years and was forever trying to get them to be more international. When they put phone numbers on the web pages they all had the 011 prefix which is the international access code: from the US. Dates were always mmddyy, and times were always AM/PM. And we had customers in most countries of the world.
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My wife applied for a job last night. The application page wasn't bad at all. Nice clean layout, a simple process. But then attempting to fill in her "Profile" for her account... It would accept nothing but US-format telephone numbers. This is an international company...that won't accept international phone numbers. Address? A dropdown pick list of countries that fills a picklist of "states" when a country is chosen. That worked fine. But when you attempt to save, you get nothing but errors, saying "Country" must be United States. Despite being given the choice of every other country in the world. I didn't dig into it to see where they're doing their page validation, but I'm assuming backend because the error message looked very SQLy.
We won't sit down. We won't shut up. We won't go quietly away. YouTube, and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc. and FB
Maybe there is a reason why they are looking for hiring someone :-D
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My wife applied for a job last night. The application page wasn't bad at all. Nice clean layout, a simple process. But then attempting to fill in her "Profile" for her account... It would accept nothing but US-format telephone numbers. This is an international company...that won't accept international phone numbers. Address? A dropdown pick list of countries that fills a picklist of "states" when a country is chosen. That worked fine. But when you attempt to save, you get nothing but errors, saying "Country" must be United States. Despite being given the choice of every other country in the world. I didn't dig into it to see where they're doing their page validation, but I'm assuming backend because the error message looked very SQLy.
We won't sit down. We won't shut up. We won't go quietly away. YouTube, and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc. and FB
I've had a number of sights not accept a standard email domain I've used for over a decade because it was .info . Generally, if I can, I email them an comment that they hired idiots to make their website. I also tell them I took my business elsewhere as a result of the snub. Many years ago I was writing Point-of-Sale applications. When it expanded to Canada I allowed for Canadian zipcode formats. When they started to sell in Australia I took into account not only the multiple telephone number formats valid at the time but their round up/down to the nearest Aus$0.05 and allowed it to be reversible for recalcs of totals when necessary. And, in the USA, what is taxed (this was dry-cleaning software) varied by state, along with what's called "tagging" - which is how they tell different people's clothes apart when they're all cleaned in one big vat - it had to increment based on the particular system they chose. Added fun: credit card numbers were check-summed on the client side so monthly billings didn't fail from invalid entries. Or, simply put - allow it to be as accommodating as possible for anyone expected to use it. That type of development, it seems, went down the tubes when it seemed cheaper to outsource it. Even my current employer learned how that's not really cheaper and you then have the interesting status of "an outsider" having you by the short-hairs.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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I've had a number of sights not accept a standard email domain I've used for over a decade because it was .info . Generally, if I can, I email them an comment that they hired idiots to make their website. I also tell them I took my business elsewhere as a result of the snub. Many years ago I was writing Point-of-Sale applications. When it expanded to Canada I allowed for Canadian zipcode formats. When they started to sell in Australia I took into account not only the multiple telephone number formats valid at the time but their round up/down to the nearest Aus$0.05 and allowed it to be reversible for recalcs of totals when necessary. And, in the USA, what is taxed (this was dry-cleaning software) varied by state, along with what's called "tagging" - which is how they tell different people's clothes apart when they're all cleaned in one big vat - it had to increment based on the particular system they chose. Added fun: credit card numbers were check-summed on the client side so monthly billings didn't fail from invalid entries. Or, simply put - allow it to be as accommodating as possible for anyone expected to use it. That type of development, it seems, went down the tubes when it seemed cheaper to outsource it. Even my current employer learned how that's not really cheaper and you then have the interesting status of "an outsider" having you by the short-hairs.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
W∴ Balboos, GHB wrote:
a number of sights
:-D if that is not a tell about how you are feeling about it, nothing is.
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Maybe there is a reason why they are looking for hiring someone :-D
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I've had a number of sights not accept a standard email domain I've used for over a decade because it was .info . Generally, if I can, I email them an comment that they hired idiots to make their website. I also tell them I took my business elsewhere as a result of the snub. Many years ago I was writing Point-of-Sale applications. When it expanded to Canada I allowed for Canadian zipcode formats. When they started to sell in Australia I took into account not only the multiple telephone number formats valid at the time but their round up/down to the nearest Aus$0.05 and allowed it to be reversible for recalcs of totals when necessary. And, in the USA, what is taxed (this was dry-cleaning software) varied by state, along with what's called "tagging" - which is how they tell different people's clothes apart when they're all cleaned in one big vat - it had to increment based on the particular system they chose. Added fun: credit card numbers were check-summed on the client side so monthly billings didn't fail from invalid entries. Or, simply put - allow it to be as accommodating as possible for anyone expected to use it. That type of development, it seems, went down the tubes when it seemed cheaper to outsource it. Even my current employer learned how that's not really cheaper and you then have the interesting status of "an outsider" having you by the short-hairs.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
In the 80s I worked for the European (UK-based) arm of a major US software vendor. Our remit was to take the application suite (GL, AR, AP, Order Entry) and add support for multiple languages, multiple currencies (including cross-currency transactions), alternative date formats and various flavours of European VAT. It was a lot of work and a lot of fun. Also included were multiple trips to US HQ to "learn about" the application. In practice we took it as opportunities to try and educate the US developers on how to write the app so that, if not international out of the box, at least straightforward to add international features to. The US developers were lovely folk, but consistently never really "got" the need to cater for anyone other than their domestic market. The company was eventually taken over by a larger competitor and the application suite dropped. Had it been cheaper to convert for the world market I suspect the outcome might have been different.
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My wife applied for a job last night. The application page wasn't bad at all. Nice clean layout, a simple process. But then attempting to fill in her "Profile" for her account... It would accept nothing but US-format telephone numbers. This is an international company...that won't accept international phone numbers. Address? A dropdown pick list of countries that fills a picklist of "states" when a country is chosen. That worked fine. But when you attempt to save, you get nothing but errors, saying "Country" must be United States. Despite being given the choice of every other country in the world. I didn't dig into it to see where they're doing their page validation, but I'm assuming backend because the error message looked very SQLy.
We won't sit down. We won't shut up. We won't go quietly away. YouTube, and My Mu[sic], Films and Windows Programs, etc. and FB
My "big money" bank stumbled around like that for years: Computer "banking hours". Mysterious telephone number formats. Vague references to your "banking #" (is that branch, account, what?!) A pre-approval process that takes 20 or 30 minutes but crashes and looses everything on the last entry. What do bulls in china shops do? Anything they want.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food