I'm looking for a half decent HTML5 editor, non-dynamic
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Although my internet connection is pretty stable, I've been burned enough times (usually by remote servers going down) that it's my habit now when posting anything, anywhere, to do a Ctrl-A / Ctrl-C. If it all goes wrong I can just Win-V and access multiple fields' worth of text to paste back in and try again.
I try to remember to do that but it's not habit yet. If I'd only glance at my screen and see my ethernet was disconnected before I post it would save me pain, but sometimes good habits take time to get ingrained, even though the bad ones are instant! :laugh:
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What about vscode plugins? You are there already, no?
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Someone suggested the Live Server extension, which while isn't exactly what I wanted, is close enough that I may be able to use it. It's wysiwyg but by way of a preview panel on the right hand side, instead of allowing you to wysiwyg edit. The panel on the right updates when you change the HTML on the left. That's great, really, especially for web design, but not entirely ideal for writing articles where I just want to click bold or list without having to type a bunch of tags all the time. I'm not averse to editing tags, it just takes longer.
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Why an online editor at all? Do it locally, then cut-n-paste. MS Word saves decent enough HMTL if you choose "Save As | Web Page (filtered)" (that gets rid of most of the Microsoft-specific crap) Or do you need the HTML5 stuff for active content?
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Why an online editor at all? Do it locally, then cut-n-paste.
Agreed. I've not used anything but Notepad for all of my articles, and as a result, I've never lost a byte. Once published, rarely do I have to edit more than once. All of the bugs get worked out before ever clicking the Publish button.
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I have been and still use MS's Expression Web 4. For years. It has some auto-completion (it's not fully aware of the latest in HTML5/CSS3) but that really doesn't matter. Has wysiwyg for the HTML/CSS (that it understands) but it doesn't execute javascripts. Supposedly it would do php but, in my experience, connecting the engine to it hasn't worked out well. But it has color coding, fonts, and all that which are customizable and does autocomplete most javascript/php/CSS3) and that covers a lot of it. Drag-and-Drop elements and styles, &etc. available but I've gotten to just typing in what I want. Reliable . . . and free !
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I have used this for years as well, the wysiwig is a bit hit or miss with some tags but it does a more than halfway job Unfortunately Microsoft discontinued download of it in september this year so only really good for people that already hav a copy
Well, according to the original poster: The Lounge[^] it's available. Maybe via MSDN - it wasn't specified.
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I want an HTML5 wysiwyg editor I can write articles in. My modem is dying and it might be replaced tomorrow but i'm sick of editing articles on this website with this editor, especially since my internet has been cutting out and causing it to lose my work when i submit. Mind you, aside from a couple of really glaring bugs that frustrate the heckin elephant outta me the online editor here is not actually that bad to use. Or wouldn't be if I didn't keep losing my work. The only reason I use it is I haven't found a replacement that doesn't frustrate me more than the current solution. I'm not a webdesigner, and I don't want something Adobe would have dreamed up. KISS.
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Have you tried KompoZer? It hasn't been updated for a few years, but it's full WYSIWYG, has the Mozilla browser built-in, and does a pretty good job of handling style sheets.
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I think my needs are similar to yours. I use VS Code with the Live Server extension by Ritwick Dey. I have used fancier web editors before and I find this much more suitable for a developer who occasionally writes some HTML/CSS/J*$%Scr#?t/PHP.
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Thanks for the Live Server tip. I have just installed it and first impression is that it works really well.
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I want an HTML5 wysiwyg editor I can write articles in. My modem is dying and it might be replaced tomorrow but i'm sick of editing articles on this website with this editor, especially since my internet has been cutting out and causing it to lose my work when i submit. Mind you, aside from a couple of really glaring bugs that frustrate the heckin elephant outta me the online editor here is not actually that bad to use. Or wouldn't be if I didn't keep losing my work. The only reason I use it is I haven't found a replacement that doesn't frustrate me more than the current solution. I'm not a webdesigner, and I don't want something Adobe would have dreamed up. KISS.
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The editor in SeaMonkey is pretty good. The SeaMonkey® Project[^]
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I want an HTML5 wysiwyg editor I can write articles in. My modem is dying and it might be replaced tomorrow but i'm sick of editing articles on this website with this editor, especially since my internet has been cutting out and causing it to lose my work when i submit. Mind you, aside from a couple of really glaring bugs that frustrate the heckin elephant outta me the online editor here is not actually that bad to use. Or wouldn't be if I didn't keep losing my work. The only reason I use it is I haven't found a replacement that doesn't frustrate me more than the current solution. I'm not a webdesigner, and I don't want something Adobe would have dreamed up. KISS.
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I am rather surprised nobody has mentioned BlueGriffon[^] If it was more actively worked on, it could be epic. In its current state its pretty damn good, but certainly has its quirks. I've found with persistence I can work around most of them.
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Oh. Well thanks so much! I'll check it out. Huge win if this does what I need since I'm moving over to VS code for all my development. Bye bye visual studio!
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FYI, I use both VS Code and full VS. I find both have their strong points. In general VS is better for full blown application development (although I've never really tried to do too much of it with VS Code) and working with data, while VS Code is better at most general editing tasks. (I also use Notepad and Notepad++ for editing arbitrary files, although VS Code is fast replacing most of what I used to use Notepad++ for).
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FYI, I use both VS Code and full VS. I find both have their strong points. In general VS is better for full blown application development (although I've never really tried to do too much of it with VS Code) and working with data, while VS Code is better at most general editing tasks. (I also use Notepad and Notepad++ for editing arbitrary files, although VS Code is fast replacing most of what I used to use Notepad++ for).
I've been away from windows for a time. I came from visual studio and I didn't like VS code until after I was more or less forced into using it by devving on a linux machine I eventually fell in love with it, and have decided I prefer it to visual studio, aside from a few quirks. It's less obtrusive, far more extensible, faster loading, and I can target arduinos without leaving the thing. I especially like it for C++ projects, where I like the amount of control i have over the command like make/build i get from the editor.
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I want an HTML5 wysiwyg editor I can write articles in. My modem is dying and it might be replaced tomorrow but i'm sick of editing articles on this website with this editor, especially since my internet has been cutting out and causing it to lose my work when i submit. Mind you, aside from a couple of really glaring bugs that frustrate the heckin elephant outta me the online editor here is not actually that bad to use. Or wouldn't be if I didn't keep losing my work. The only reason I use it is I haven't found a replacement that doesn't frustrate me more than the current solution. I'm not a webdesigner, and I don't want something Adobe would have dreamed up. KISS.
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I use a 2003 version of FrontPage. :laugh: That said, I got really frustrated with the crap that's out there, including the plugins for VSCode, so I ended up writing my own.[^] At least that way I'm responsible for any bugs, lol. But I can also easily create the keyboard shortcuts that I want (with some limitations, sigh) and other behaviors, and the source is pretty small. I've used it to write a few articles, and I'm happy with it. Some of the keyboard shortcuts were created specifically for article writing, to create "pre" tags with the "lang" specifier. Annoyingly, because it's browser-based, saving means it downloads into the "downloads" folder. :rolleyes: If you end up liking it enough, or making changes to it, I think I can make you a co-author if you want to share the changes, or you could just write a new article improving it! :laugh: [edit]Oh, and it has a TOC generator![/edit]
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Thread Safe Quantized Temporal Frame Ring BufferFor local saving from an existing browser-based HTML/JS editor, I would recommend having locally running PHP. With XAMPP you can have PHP without real installation, you just - put XAMPP to some local folder - set the root "web" folder (PHP can handle files only in this root folder and its subfolders) - add XAMPP Control Panel executable to your operating system startup (or at least start it always before editing HTML) - put a short local PHP script file e.g. MySaveFile.php to this root folder, which would validate the path and save the HTML to the file. It could also keep one or more backup copies of the file. Then you would just add some controls into your editor: - a Save button, - an input text for the file path+name to the form (or call a simple JS function, which would create and submit the form) - a small IFrame for sending the save request and getting the response (whether it was saved succesfully). The form action then would be "http://localhost:8080/MySaveFile.php" or something like that. Using PHP could also offer the possibility to browse the folders and subfolders in the web root directory. If someone is interested, I can prepare both the form for saving and the PHP script. I tried several HTML editors and I was not able to choose any of them. They wrap lines where I don't want them to be wrapped, replace with a space, don't offer all the formatting properties I use,... And I already lost hope I could find some suitable programmer's WYSIWYG editor. I suppose it's time to try Marc's editor.