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    For the past 4 months or so, I have tried to keep my brain from atrofying by working on complex issues. I am approaching 80 and dementia in all forms is one of the few things that really scares me. When my daughter was struggling with a course in elementary Java, I had to quickly learn elementary Java to help her. Well, Java hooked me, and now I am well into Javafx with fxml and far, far beyond her elementary course. I found Java to be quite similar to C#, but at the same time, it had significant differences. One difference that drove me nuts several times, is the simple act to compare strings. In C# I must have have done the comparison like: if (stringA == stringB) { } thousands of times. But try to do that in Java, ooh boy! The compiler will just ignore the statement and skip to the next statement. No exception, no error, no nothing. It just ignores the line. The results can be chaotic with absolutely no indication where the error occurred! The proper syntax in Java is: if ( stringA.equals(stringB)) { } And if any of you readers tell me I deserve to suffer for trying to work in Java: I will scream! :-D One other thing: I started out using the Eclipse IDE for java, but soon found I preferred the IntelliJ IDE. In fact IntelliJ is better than Visual Studio in several respects. But VS admittedly has its moments in the sun.

    Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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      For the past 4 months or so, I have tried to keep my brain from atrofying by working on complex issues. I am approaching 80 and dementia in all forms is one of the few things that really scares me. When my daughter was struggling with a course in elementary Java, I had to quickly learn elementary Java to help her. Well, Java hooked me, and now I am well into Javafx with fxml and far, far beyond her elementary course. I found Java to be quite similar to C#, but at the same time, it had significant differences. One difference that drove me nuts several times, is the simple act to compare strings. In C# I must have have done the comparison like: if (stringA == stringB) { } thousands of times. But try to do that in Java, ooh boy! The compiler will just ignore the statement and skip to the next statement. No exception, no error, no nothing. It just ignores the line. The results can be chaotic with absolutely no indication where the error occurred! The proper syntax in Java is: if ( stringA.equals(stringB)) { } And if any of you readers tell me I deserve to suffer for trying to work in Java: I will scream! :-D One other thing: I started out using the Eclipse IDE for java, but soon found I preferred the IntelliJ IDE. In fact IntelliJ is better than Visual Studio in several respects. But VS admittedly has its moments in the sun.

      Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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      Lost User
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      I'm with you on that. I had to learn Java during my last years working for a living, and got to like it. Also I used eclipse extensively and, once I understood its quirks, I found it also easy to work with. I do very little Java these days so just use Visual Studio Code as an editor.

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        For the past 4 months or so, I have tried to keep my brain from atrofying by working on complex issues. I am approaching 80 and dementia in all forms is one of the few things that really scares me. When my daughter was struggling with a course in elementary Java, I had to quickly learn elementary Java to help her. Well, Java hooked me, and now I am well into Javafx with fxml and far, far beyond her elementary course. I found Java to be quite similar to C#, but at the same time, it had significant differences. One difference that drove me nuts several times, is the simple act to compare strings. In C# I must have have done the comparison like: if (stringA == stringB) { } thousands of times. But try to do that in Java, ooh boy! The compiler will just ignore the statement and skip to the next statement. No exception, no error, no nothing. It just ignores the line. The results can be chaotic with absolutely no indication where the error occurred! The proper syntax in Java is: if ( stringA.equals(stringB)) { } And if any of you readers tell me I deserve to suffer for trying to work in Java: I will scream! :-D One other thing: I started out using the Eclipse IDE for java, but soon found I preferred the IntelliJ IDE. In fact IntelliJ is better than Visual Studio in several respects. But VS admittedly has its moments in the sun.

        Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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        Amarnath S
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        One more way of preventing dementia and other such related issues is - Composing poetry, in a language known to you. I have attempted composing poems in Sanskrit and Kannada (my most familiar languages), and it really occupies the mind and brain, especially hunting for words which fit into the rhyme and rhythm of the poem. On one occasion, I spent close to three hours at a stretch, and composed a poem with 15 verses, two lines per verse, in Sanskrit.

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        • C Cp Coder

          For the past 4 months or so, I have tried to keep my brain from atrofying by working on complex issues. I am approaching 80 and dementia in all forms is one of the few things that really scares me. When my daughter was struggling with a course in elementary Java, I had to quickly learn elementary Java to help her. Well, Java hooked me, and now I am well into Javafx with fxml and far, far beyond her elementary course. I found Java to be quite similar to C#, but at the same time, it had significant differences. One difference that drove me nuts several times, is the simple act to compare strings. In C# I must have have done the comparison like: if (stringA == stringB) { } thousands of times. But try to do that in Java, ooh boy! The compiler will just ignore the statement and skip to the next statement. No exception, no error, no nothing. It just ignores the line. The results can be chaotic with absolutely no indication where the error occurred! The proper syntax in Java is: if ( stringA.equals(stringB)) { } And if any of you readers tell me I deserve to suffer for trying to work in Java: I will scream! :-D One other thing: I started out using the Eclipse IDE for java, but soon found I preferred the IntelliJ IDE. In fact IntelliJ is better than Visual Studio in several respects. But VS admittedly has its moments in the sun.

          Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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          Mike Hankey
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          Before pandemic I volunteered at local VA hospital and would have to go to wards to collect patients and the people with dementia broke my heart.

          I'm not sure how many cookies it makes to be happy, but so far it's not 27. JaxCoder.com

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            For the past 4 months or so, I have tried to keep my brain from atrofying by working on complex issues. I am approaching 80 and dementia in all forms is one of the few things that really scares me. When my daughter was struggling with a course in elementary Java, I had to quickly learn elementary Java to help her. Well, Java hooked me, and now I am well into Javafx with fxml and far, far beyond her elementary course. I found Java to be quite similar to C#, but at the same time, it had significant differences. One difference that drove me nuts several times, is the simple act to compare strings. In C# I must have have done the comparison like: if (stringA == stringB) { } thousands of times. But try to do that in Java, ooh boy! The compiler will just ignore the statement and skip to the next statement. No exception, no error, no nothing. It just ignores the line. The results can be chaotic with absolutely no indication where the error occurred! The proper syntax in Java is: if ( stringA.equals(stringB)) { } And if any of you readers tell me I deserve to suffer for trying to work in Java: I will scream! :-D One other thing: I started out using the Eclipse IDE for java, but soon found I preferred the IntelliJ IDE. In fact IntelliJ is better than Visual Studio in several respects. But VS admittedly has its moments in the sun.

            Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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            Cp-Coder wrote:

            The proper syntax in Java is: if ( stringA.equals(stringB)) { }

            You can do that in c# too.

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              Before pandemic I volunteered at local VA hospital and would have to go to wards to collect patients and the people with dementia broke my heart.

              I'm not sure how many cookies it makes to be happy, but so far it's not 27. JaxCoder.com

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              My wife's grandmother and grandfather both passed away after long bouts with dementia. They lost their dignity and then themselves. It made me resolve that if I were ever diagnosed with it, I would check out on my own power before I ever put my child through that.

              Software Zen: delete this;

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                My wife's grandmother and grandfather both passed away after long bouts with dementia. They lost their dignity and then themselves. It made me resolve that if I were ever diagnosed with it, I would check out on my own power before I ever put my child through that.

                Software Zen: delete this;

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                I agree, its ahell of a thing to live with and put others through.

                I'm not sure how many cookies it makes to be happy, but so far it's not 27. JaxCoder.com

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                  I agree, its ahell of a thing to live with and put others through.

                  I'm not sure how many cookies it makes to be happy, but so far it's not 27. JaxCoder.com

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                  Oz is just toying with the idea of assisted death, hopefully they bring it in before I need it, we don't have access to weaponry (the only good reason to be able to get a gun IMHO).

                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity - RAH I'm old. I know stuff - JSOP

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                  • C Cp Coder

                    For the past 4 months or so, I have tried to keep my brain from atrofying by working on complex issues. I am approaching 80 and dementia in all forms is one of the few things that really scares me. When my daughter was struggling with a course in elementary Java, I had to quickly learn elementary Java to help her. Well, Java hooked me, and now I am well into Javafx with fxml and far, far beyond her elementary course. I found Java to be quite similar to C#, but at the same time, it had significant differences. One difference that drove me nuts several times, is the simple act to compare strings. In C# I must have have done the comparison like: if (stringA == stringB) { } thousands of times. But try to do that in Java, ooh boy! The compiler will just ignore the statement and skip to the next statement. No exception, no error, no nothing. It just ignores the line. The results can be chaotic with absolutely no indication where the error occurred! The proper syntax in Java is: if ( stringA.equals(stringB)) { } And if any of you readers tell me I deserve to suffer for trying to work in Java: I will scream! :-D One other thing: I started out using the Eclipse IDE for java, but soon found I preferred the IntelliJ IDE. In fact IntelliJ is better than Visual Studio in several respects. But VS admittedly has its moments in the sun.

                    Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                    peterkmx
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                    Yes ... looks like you have some fun indeed, which is good :-). I had my share of it, too, with Java 8 Eclipse and dynamic web projects for Tomcat 8 to manage local documents. I wasn't very happy as Windows services in C# would be somewhat more efficient for the use case, but, I had no choice :-) ... Indeed IntelliJ looks great, will be using it soon with Gradle as a side-kick for my C# projects ...

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                      For the past 4 months or so, I have tried to keep my brain from atrofying by working on complex issues. I am approaching 80 and dementia in all forms is one of the few things that really scares me. When my daughter was struggling with a course in elementary Java, I had to quickly learn elementary Java to help her. Well, Java hooked me, and now I am well into Javafx with fxml and far, far beyond her elementary course. I found Java to be quite similar to C#, but at the same time, it had significant differences. One difference that drove me nuts several times, is the simple act to compare strings. In C# I must have have done the comparison like: if (stringA == stringB) { } thousands of times. But try to do that in Java, ooh boy! The compiler will just ignore the statement and skip to the next statement. No exception, no error, no nothing. It just ignores the line. The results can be chaotic with absolutely no indication where the error occurred! The proper syntax in Java is: if ( stringA.equals(stringB)) { } And if any of you readers tell me I deserve to suffer for trying to work in Java: I will scream! :-D One other thing: I started out using the Eclipse IDE for java, but soon found I preferred the IntelliJ IDE. In fact IntelliJ is better than Visual Studio in several respects. But VS admittedly has its moments in the sun.

                      Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                      Kiriander
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                      Games, more specifically 3D games, were shown to exhibit anti-dementia properties. Apparently, 3D spacial reasoning (which is pretty much a requirement for playing 3D games) is a great way to keep the brain from atrofying.

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                        Cp-Coder wrote:

                        The proper syntax in Java is: if ( stringA.equals(stringB)) { }

                        You can do that in c# too.

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                        Ralf Peter Lucke
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                        In .Net stringA==stringB invokes stringA.equals(stringB). In Java stringA==stringB isn't ignored. It compares the object references, which similar to Object.ReferenceEquals(A, B).

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                          For the past 4 months or so, I have tried to keep my brain from atrofying by working on complex issues. I am approaching 80 and dementia in all forms is one of the few things that really scares me. When my daughter was struggling with a course in elementary Java, I had to quickly learn elementary Java to help her. Well, Java hooked me, and now I am well into Javafx with fxml and far, far beyond her elementary course. I found Java to be quite similar to C#, but at the same time, it had significant differences. One difference that drove me nuts several times, is the simple act to compare strings. In C# I must have have done the comparison like: if (stringA == stringB) { } thousands of times. But try to do that in Java, ooh boy! The compiler will just ignore the statement and skip to the next statement. No exception, no error, no nothing. It just ignores the line. The results can be chaotic with absolutely no indication where the error occurred! The proper syntax in Java is: if ( stringA.equals(stringB)) { } And if any of you readers tell me I deserve to suffer for trying to work in Java: I will scream! :-D One other thing: I started out using the Eclipse IDE for java, but soon found I preferred the IntelliJ IDE. In fact IntelliJ is better than Visual Studio in several respects. But VS admittedly has its moments in the sun.

                          Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                          dshillito
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                          Only approaching 70 here. Since I retired 4 years ago I keep dementia at bay by: a) Writing and publishing Android apps in Java using Android Studio which is based on IntelliJ. b) Learning French. I am now up to reading one French novel every week for the last year. Everything you need for both these activities is available free or quite cheaply online. One of my apps: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=net.globalrecordings.fivefish&hl=en_AU&gl=US[^]

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                            For the past 4 months or so, I have tried to keep my brain from atrofying by working on complex issues. I am approaching 80 and dementia in all forms is one of the few things that really scares me. When my daughter was struggling with a course in elementary Java, I had to quickly learn elementary Java to help her. Well, Java hooked me, and now I am well into Javafx with fxml and far, far beyond her elementary course. I found Java to be quite similar to C#, but at the same time, it had significant differences. One difference that drove me nuts several times, is the simple act to compare strings. In C# I must have have done the comparison like: if (stringA == stringB) { } thousands of times. But try to do that in Java, ooh boy! The compiler will just ignore the statement and skip to the next statement. No exception, no error, no nothing. It just ignores the line. The results can be chaotic with absolutely no indication where the error occurred! The proper syntax in Java is: if ( stringA.equals(stringB)) { } And if any of you readers tell me I deserve to suffer for trying to work in Java: I will scream! :-D One other thing: I started out using the Eclipse IDE for java, but soon found I preferred the IntelliJ IDE. In fact IntelliJ is better than Visual Studio in several respects. But VS admittedly has its moments in the sun.

                            Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                            Martin ISDN
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                            i'm really glad you have fun. i'm slowly approaching 50 and building up empathy for persons of older age, respect is granted. i must admit, that is the first time i hear 'fun' and 'java' in the same sentence :) maybe java operator == compares strings by their reference? JetBrains, the creators of IntelliJ IDE are known for making superb software. i hope you have lot's of fun

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                              For the past 4 months or so, I have tried to keep my brain from atrofying by working on complex issues. I am approaching 80 and dementia in all forms is one of the few things that really scares me. When my daughter was struggling with a course in elementary Java, I had to quickly learn elementary Java to help her. Well, Java hooked me, and now I am well into Javafx with fxml and far, far beyond her elementary course. I found Java to be quite similar to C#, but at the same time, it had significant differences. One difference that drove me nuts several times, is the simple act to compare strings. In C# I must have have done the comparison like: if (stringA == stringB) { } thousands of times. But try to do that in Java, ooh boy! The compiler will just ignore the statement and skip to the next statement. No exception, no error, no nothing. It just ignores the line. The results can be chaotic with absolutely no indication where the error occurred! The proper syntax in Java is: if ( stringA.equals(stringB)) { } And if any of you readers tell me I deserve to suffer for trying to work in Java: I will scream! :-D One other thing: I started out using the Eclipse IDE for java, but soon found I preferred the IntelliJ IDE. In fact IntelliJ is better than Visual Studio in several respects. But VS admittedly has its moments in the sun.

                              Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                              Harrison Pratt
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                              The word for the day: "to keep my brain from atrofying ..." Correction: "atrofrying" Meaning: being fried and then atrophying :laugh:

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                                For the past 4 months or so, I have tried to keep my brain from atrofying by working on complex issues. I am approaching 80 and dementia in all forms is one of the few things that really scares me. When my daughter was struggling with a course in elementary Java, I had to quickly learn elementary Java to help her. Well, Java hooked me, and now I am well into Javafx with fxml and far, far beyond her elementary course. I found Java to be quite similar to C#, but at the same time, it had significant differences. One difference that drove me nuts several times, is the simple act to compare strings. In C# I must have have done the comparison like: if (stringA == stringB) { } thousands of times. But try to do that in Java, ooh boy! The compiler will just ignore the statement and skip to the next statement. No exception, no error, no nothing. It just ignores the line. The results can be chaotic with absolutely no indication where the error occurred! The proper syntax in Java is: if ( stringA.equals(stringB)) { } And if any of you readers tell me I deserve to suffer for trying to work in Java: I will scream! :-D One other thing: I started out using the Eclipse IDE for java, but soon found I preferred the IntelliJ IDE. In fact IntelliJ is better than Visual Studio in several respects. But VS admittedly has its moments in the sun.

                                Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                                Bruce Patin
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                                You deserve to suffer for trying to work in Java! Big Grin | :-D

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                                  For the past 4 months or so, I have tried to keep my brain from atrofying by working on complex issues. I am approaching 80 and dementia in all forms is one of the few things that really scares me. When my daughter was struggling with a course in elementary Java, I had to quickly learn elementary Java to help her. Well, Java hooked me, and now I am well into Javafx with fxml and far, far beyond her elementary course. I found Java to be quite similar to C#, but at the same time, it had significant differences. One difference that drove me nuts several times, is the simple act to compare strings. In C# I must have have done the comparison like: if (stringA == stringB) { } thousands of times. But try to do that in Java, ooh boy! The compiler will just ignore the statement and skip to the next statement. No exception, no error, no nothing. It just ignores the line. The results can be chaotic with absolutely no indication where the error occurred! The proper syntax in Java is: if ( stringA.equals(stringB)) { } And if any of you readers tell me I deserve to suffer for trying to work in Java: I will scream! :-D One other thing: I started out using the Eclipse IDE for java, but soon found I preferred the IntelliJ IDE. In fact IntelliJ is better than Visual Studio in several respects. But VS admittedly has its moments in the sun.

                                  Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                                  Prolly time for another viewing of wat[^]

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                                    For the past 4 months or so, I have tried to keep my brain from atrofying by working on complex issues. I am approaching 80 and dementia in all forms is one of the few things that really scares me. When my daughter was struggling with a course in elementary Java, I had to quickly learn elementary Java to help her. Well, Java hooked me, and now I am well into Javafx with fxml and far, far beyond her elementary course. I found Java to be quite similar to C#, but at the same time, it had significant differences. One difference that drove me nuts several times, is the simple act to compare strings. In C# I must have have done the comparison like: if (stringA == stringB) { } thousands of times. But try to do that in Java, ooh boy! The compiler will just ignore the statement and skip to the next statement. No exception, no error, no nothing. It just ignores the line. The results can be chaotic with absolutely no indication where the error occurred! The proper syntax in Java is: if ( stringA.equals(stringB)) { } And if any of you readers tell me I deserve to suffer for trying to work in Java: I will scream! :-D One other thing: I started out using the Eclipse IDE for java, but soon found I preferred the IntelliJ IDE. In fact IntelliJ is better than Visual Studio in several respects. But VS admittedly has its moments in the sun.

                                    Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                                    Slow Eddie
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                                    Being 71 myself, I can relate. Just learning C#, is more than enough for me. I always worked in VB, still do until I get my code converted. Yes I am still working for a living. Plan ahead! :sigh: :sigh:

                                    Wear a mask! help prevent Covid 19 and its' variants.

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                                      For the past 4 months or so, I have tried to keep my brain from atrofying by working on complex issues. I am approaching 80 and dementia in all forms is one of the few things that really scares me. When my daughter was struggling with a course in elementary Java, I had to quickly learn elementary Java to help her. Well, Java hooked me, and now I am well into Javafx with fxml and far, far beyond her elementary course. I found Java to be quite similar to C#, but at the same time, it had significant differences. One difference that drove me nuts several times, is the simple act to compare strings. In C# I must have have done the comparison like: if (stringA == stringB) { } thousands of times. But try to do that in Java, ooh boy! The compiler will just ignore the statement and skip to the next statement. No exception, no error, no nothing. It just ignores the line. The results can be chaotic with absolutely no indication where the error occurred! The proper syntax in Java is: if ( stringA.equals(stringB)) { } And if any of you readers tell me I deserve to suffer for trying to work in Java: I will scream! :-D One other thing: I started out using the Eclipse IDE for java, but soon found I preferred the IntelliJ IDE. In fact IntelliJ is better than Visual Studio in several respects. But VS admittedly has its moments in the sun.

                                      Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                                      Samuel Teixeira
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                                      Awesome. 🤩 This grows my expectations to finally 🙏learn Java when get in these times.🤣 After all, enjoy programming is what it matters😃

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                                        Awesome. 🤩 This grows my expectations to finally 🙏learn Java when get in these times.🤣 After all, enjoy programming is what it matters😃

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                                        Cp Coder
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                                        Good! If you are serious about Java, I recommend you focus on JavaFX with fxml and using the IntelliJ IDE. :) To get started quickly with JavaFX and IntelliJ, I recommend the book "The Definitive Guide to Modern Java with JavaFX" by Chin et al. It's available as a Kindle from Amazon. It will teach you to configure a new project for IntelliJ, which can be a little tricky. Check the section "Setting Up Your Environment". Also the section: "Your First Modern Java Client" Good luck, and let us know how you progress! I am here to assist where I can. Always keep in mind: Java is not for sissies! :laugh:

                                        Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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                                          Being 71 myself, I can relate. Just learning C#, is more than enough for me. I always worked in VB, still do until I get my code converted. Yes I am still working for a living. Plan ahead! :sigh: :sigh:

                                          Wear a mask! help prevent Covid 19 and its' variants.

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                                          Cp Coder
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                                          Maybe the hamsters should consider a special forum for us older geezers where we can exchange ideas that the young 'uns just don't appreciate or understand! :)

                                          Get me coffee and no one gets hurt!

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