I am appalled
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So 8 out of 10 people have figured out that masks do nothing to prevent the spread of a virus. Bottom line, don't cough or sneeze on other people (it's always been rude). Multiple studies, including one in Denmark that was released Thanksgiving week, have now shown that masks have no statistical impact on the spread of any viral disease.
obermd wrote:
Multiple studies,
That SCREAMS with the logic of what you didn't put down: and that was what MOST studies have shown. You find and believe what you want to find and believe. QAnon relied up that frame of "logic" to get a following.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Yep, the interweb is a wonderful thing - if you want to get you and your loved ones killed. There's always going to be someone, somewhere telling you exactly what you want to hear. I have not looked into the science, but surely, even if there is only a slim chance that a mask will protect yourself and others, it makes sense to wear it. Or you can just do what I do and stay in 24x7. According to my wife, (who does have to go out - to work), there are still plenty of people by us, (Northants, UK), still not wearing masks. So it's not surprising that, later today, we are going to have Boris tell us that we are going to get more restrictions. I doubt it will make much difference though. People just don't seem to get it. Until we introduce a Tier 11, (with an 8pm curfew, and snipers on the rooftops), I don't think we are going to stop the spread! :rolleyes:
5teveH wrote:
Until we introduce a Tier 11, (with an 8pm curfew, and snipers on the rooftops)
You know, those snipers may take out a few . . . the rest of the morons will probably take that as a hint. Net result is many lives saved whilst the carcass's of those "sacraficed for the greater good" are picked at by crows. You may yet get my vote for some office.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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So 8 out of 10 people have figured out that masks do nothing to prevent the spread of a virus. Bottom line, don't cough or sneeze on other people (it's always been rude). Multiple studies, including one in Denmark that was released Thanksgiving week, have now shown that masks have no statistical impact on the spread of any viral disease.
Masks are generally poor at protecting the wearer. The Danish study you refer to, only measured whether the wearer was protected or not, and the result only showed a small difference that was not statistically significant. The whole point with wearing a mask is to protect others, that's the reason a surgeon is wearing a mask while operating.
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Where I live, about 2 people in 10 wear a mask to protect themselves and others from the Covid virus. And the governor has made it mandatory to wear a mask. Also I was watching a program on YouTube called the "Watched Walker", and maybe 1 person in 20 was wearing a mask in the Christmas shopping crowds. Is this how they developed a new strain there? What is it like where you live? Also, do you intend to get the vaccination when it is available? BTW: It Seems to me that British TV is far superior to American TV. I love Time Team, and Absolute History
Curiosity didn't kill the cat, but it made it very ill.
I'm appalled by some of the self-righteousness in this thread. Even the "authorities" have said conflicting things, but anyone who doesn't adhere to the "facts" as some people see them is to be vilified.
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Where I live, about 2 people in 10 wear a mask to protect themselves and others from the Covid virus. And the governor has made it mandatory to wear a mask. Also I was watching a program on YouTube called the "Watched Walker", and maybe 1 person in 20 was wearing a mask in the Christmas shopping crowds. Is this how they developed a new strain there? What is it like where you live? Also, do you intend to get the vaccination when it is available? BTW: It Seems to me that British TV is far superior to American TV. I love Time Team, and Absolute History
Curiosity didn't kill the cat, but it made it very ill.
Here, Nassau County in NY, people are pretty good about it. My community is very non-urban, so if you go out for a walk you may likely wear it on your chin unless someone is approaching. Then on it goes. Public places, stores, etc., make sure you wear them (if for no other reason than to not be closed down). Although idiot still exist (so many Millions in NY State), the memory of what we went through to begin with and how COVID was beaten back to below 1% (before the Traveling morons decided an uptick was needed). Many stores still keep their (extra early AM) seniors/nurse/EMT hours, even when occupancy restrictions were lifted. And, of course, one need only look at the states that found it more comfortable to pretend it was all a Hoax, or just another flu, and that they should have spent time building more hospitals as they weren't going to otherwise inconvenience themselves.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Yep, the interweb is a wonderful thing - if you want to get you and your loved ones killed. There's always going to be someone, somewhere telling you exactly what you want to hear. I have not looked into the science, but surely, even if there is only a slim chance that a mask will protect yourself and others, it makes sense to wear it. Or you can just do what I do and stay in 24x7. According to my wife, (who does have to go out - to work), there are still plenty of people by us, (Northants, UK), still not wearing masks. So it's not surprising that, later today, we are going to have Boris tell us that we are going to get more restrictions. I doubt it will make much difference though. People just don't seem to get it. Until we introduce a Tier 11, (with an 8pm curfew, and snipers on the rooftops), I don't think we are going to stop the spread! :rolleyes:
5teveH wrote:
with an 8pm curfew
Because viri don't come out until after 8pm. Keep listening to that science :thumbsup: :)
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Where I live, about 2 people in 10 wear a mask to protect themselves and others from the Covid virus. And the governor has made it mandatory to wear a mask. Also I was watching a program on YouTube called the "Watched Walker", and maybe 1 person in 20 was wearing a mask in the Christmas shopping crowds. Is this how they developed a new strain there? What is it like where you live? Also, do you intend to get the vaccination when it is available? BTW: It Seems to me that British TV is far superior to American TV. I love Time Team, and Absolute History
Curiosity didn't kill the cat, but it made it very ill.
Slow Eddie wrote:
It Seems to me that British TV is far superior to American TV
I guess you have not seen much British TV. The current schedules are full of dross, Coronation Street, Eastenders, Emmerdale (in all of which, everyone hates everyone else), Mrs. Brown's Boys (awful), far too many cookery programs, rarely a decent film ...
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Slow Eddie wrote:
It Seems to me that British TV is far superior to American TV
I guess you have not seen much British TV. The current schedules are full of dross, Coronation Street, Eastenders, Emmerdale (in all of which, everyone hates everyone else), Mrs. Brown's Boys (awful), far too many cookery programs, rarely a decent film ...
I don't know about current UK TV programs, but The Boss and I like to watch older British shows on Amazon TV and Britbox. US TV just has to many brainless, rubbish shows to our liking. We stream the British shows, so we don't even need cable to watch.
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Slow Eddie wrote:
It Seems to me that British TV is far superior to American TV
I guess you have not seen much British TV. The current schedules are full of dross, Coronation Street, Eastenders, Emmerdale (in all of which, everyone hates everyone else), Mrs. Brown's Boys (awful), far too many cookery programs, rarely a decent film ...
Having been in both the UK and the US several times, I have to say that UK TV beats US by a lot. This is obviously an opinion which might not be shared by everyone, but the godawful amount of commercials every few minutes would make the difference if nothing else does.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Never stop dreaming - Freddie Kruger
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Having been in both the UK and the US several times, I have to say that UK TV beats US by a lot. This is obviously an opinion which might not be shared by everyone, but the godawful amount of commercials every few minutes would make the difference if nothing else does.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Never stop dreaming - Freddie Kruger
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UK TV is fast catching up in all areas. Even though the BBC channels do not have commercials, much of their output these days is "opium for the masses".
It always was, it's just the masses that change. :)
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Never stop dreaming - Freddie Kruger
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Having been in both the UK and the US several times, I have to say that UK TV beats US by a lot. This is obviously an opinion which might not be shared by everyone, but the godawful amount of commercials every few minutes would make the difference if nothing else does.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Never stop dreaming - Freddie Kruger
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5teveH wrote:
with an 8pm curfew
Because viri don't come out until after 8pm. Keep listening to that science :thumbsup: :)
F-ES Sitecore wrote:
Because viri don't come out until after 8pm. Keep listening to that science
You forgot to quote the "snipers" bit. I don't know about the curfew, but I'm pretty sure that snipers is scientifically proven! To be honest, I don't give a sh!t about the science. I just take note of what's happening in the real world. And, here in the UK, we've had 50K+ new cases two days running and nearly 1000 deaths yesterday. Our hospitals are at capacity and the NHS staff are at breaking point. Clearly the measures currently in place aren't working - because people are not sticking to the rules. So the only way this is going, is up. More cases. More deaths. And more restrictions.
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Over here (Sweden), people are pretty good at keeping the distance, but you're not obliged to wear a mask, so less than one third does. I have noticed though that when I wear one other keep better distance to me.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello Never stop dreaming - Freddie Kruger
Jörgen Andersson wrote:
I have noticed though that when I wear one other keep better distance to me.
Well, that's because you're wearing a hockey mask and people have seen Friday the 13th! :doh:
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Where I live, about 2 people in 10 wear a mask to protect themselves and others from the Covid virus. And the governor has made it mandatory to wear a mask. Also I was watching a program on YouTube called the "Watched Walker", and maybe 1 person in 20 was wearing a mask in the Christmas shopping crowds. Is this how they developed a new strain there? What is it like where you live? Also, do you intend to get the vaccination when it is available? BTW: It Seems to me that British TV is far superior to American TV. I love Time Team, and Absolute History
Curiosity didn't kill the cat, but it made it very ill.
"I'm in the 'low risk' group ... I don't need to do anything." The same types that don't wash their hands when they use the bathroom. So, 8 out of 10 door knobs, railings, merchandise, etc.
It was only in wine that he laid down no limit for himself, but he did not allow himself to be confused by it. ― Confucian Analects: Rules of Confucius about his food
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So 8 out of 10 people have figured out that masks do nothing to prevent the spread of a virus. Bottom line, don't cough or sneeze on other people (it's always been rude). Multiple studies, including one in Denmark that was released Thanksgiving week, have now shown that masks have no statistical impact on the spread of any viral disease.
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Where I live, about 2 people in 10 wear a mask to protect themselves and others from the Covid virus. And the governor has made it mandatory to wear a mask. Also I was watching a program on YouTube called the "Watched Walker", and maybe 1 person in 20 was wearing a mask in the Christmas shopping crowds. Is this how they developed a new strain there? What is it like where you live? Also, do you intend to get the vaccination when it is available? BTW: It Seems to me that British TV is far superior to American TV. I love Time Team, and Absolute History
Curiosity didn't kill the cat, but it made it very ill.
Slow Eddie wrote:
What is it like where you live?
Everyone wears a mask when at a store, unless they have a medical condition that prevents that. Outdoors, it varies - if people are talking close together or are in a crowded outdoor area, they probably are, otherwise some people don't, especially when they are alone and certainly more than 6 feet separated. Some people do wear masks, even if they are taking a walk in the woods with their SO. I see people wearing masks while driving alone in their car.
Slow Eddie wrote:
Also, do you intend to get the vaccination when it is available?
Me personally, absolutely not. However, I am not an anti-vaxxer and respect those who do get the vaccine and can certainly understand the reasons. Enough said on that matter.
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I'm appalled by some of the self-righteousness in this thread. Even the "authorities" have said conflicting things, but anyone who doesn't adhere to the "facts" as some people see them is to be vilified.
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The fox knows many things, but the hedgehog knows one big thing.And I'm appalled that people want to grandstand for the sake of grandstanding in the face of common sense and courtesy to others. Just because something isn't 100% effective doesn't mean it's "bad" or "of no use". Every. Bit. Counts. Me? I wear a mask. I wash my hands. I keep my distance from others. I limit my shopping and try and go at quiet times. I don't bubble with other families. None of these, in isolation, will work. Together, they reduce my risk, and hence the risk to my family and neighbours and the old guy down the road, but a measurable amount. If we all stop acting like this is someone else's problem to deal with then we'd all be able to get back to a semblance of normality. The bookend to Rights are Responsibilities. However, I constantly question the science, and try to keep up with the latest, always evolving understanding of this pandemic. I'm not in a position to say "washing hands reduces the risk by X%" or "wearing a mask helps by Y%". For all we know it could be eating celery is what we all actually need to do. Who knows? But in the meantime I will do what's asked and wear a mask because it's pathetically easy, it doesn't hurt, it fits in with my basic understanding of the mechanics of virus transmission in general, and because it's a simple gesture to say to my community "I'll do this tiny, tiny bit to help".
cheers Chris Maunder
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Where I live, about 2 people in 10 wear a mask to protect themselves and others from the Covid virus. And the governor has made it mandatory to wear a mask. Also I was watching a program on YouTube called the "Watched Walker", and maybe 1 person in 20 was wearing a mask in the Christmas shopping crowds. Is this how they developed a new strain there? What is it like where you live? Also, do you intend to get the vaccination when it is available? BTW: It Seems to me that British TV is far superior to American TV. I love Time Team, and Absolute History
Curiosity didn't kill the cat, but it made it very ill.
Generally people in Toronto wear masks. We don't want to (except when it's -stupid degrees outside, in which case they are great!) but we do and there's no griping or complaining. You wear yours, I'll wear mine, and if I have it and keep my distance (which everyone also seems good at) then maybe I've lowered your risk of getting it, and vice versa. It's pretty much a non-issue here, except for the occasional person who feels the need to make a point or who doesn't want to be "told" what to do. Canada's actually funny like that: no one's "told" to things, but everyone is expected to do the right thing. And generally Canadians do.
Slow Eddie wrote:
do you intend to get the vaccination when it is available?
Absolutely.
cheers Chris Maunder
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Where I live, about 2 people in 10 wear a mask to protect themselves and others from the Covid virus. And the governor has made it mandatory to wear a mask. Also I was watching a program on YouTube called the "Watched Walker", and maybe 1 person in 20 was wearing a mask in the Christmas shopping crowds. Is this how they developed a new strain there? What is it like where you live? Also, do you intend to get the vaccination when it is available? BTW: It Seems to me that British TV is far superior to American TV. I love Time Team, and Absolute History
Curiosity didn't kill the cat, but it made it very ill.
I love the treading very close to political line on this question. NOT! Anyway since you asked. Iowa/Midwest. We pretty much do a fairly decent job of wearing a mask. Depending upon where you go. Get a ways away from a city and nope not so good. The more people around the more likely you will find the percentage of people wearing a mask to be higher. I would say 100% in my small town at the grocery store are wearing a mask. But we aren't far from Des Moines sooo..... AS for the shot. PErsonally I have a needle phobia. (stupid I know, But I do pass out frequently from getting needles stuck in me) So I would rather not. Not because it doesn't work, not because I don't believe in vaccinations(I do believe in them). Mostly just because I hate falling down and going boom. That being said I will probably get the shot and just warn the person. oh well. Life.
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