Progressives.... not getting along with me
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No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
I got two progressive pairs. My "computer" glasses has a narrow short-distance field at the bottom, a wide middle-distance field in the middle and a narrow far-distance are at the top. My so-called "reading" glasses have wide short-distance and a wide far-distance fields, separated by a narrow middle-distance field. I was expected/expecting to use the "reading" glasses as default, switching to computer glasses only when sitting in front of the PC. It didn't turn out that way: I use the computer glasses all the time, with one exception: Evenings/nights when light is low, when driving the car, constantly having to bow my neck to get those traffic signs into the top area of my field of vision, really strains my neck. (In full daylight, I can can easily read them through the middle field.) So I have got my "reading" glasses parked in my car for far distance reading of traffic signs in (semi-)darkness. I am near-sighted. When I (finally!) got glasses around age ten, I was surprised to learn that all those star constellations such as the Big Dipper or Orion were more than mythology - you can actually see those stars making up the figures! :-)
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I got two progressive pairs. My "computer" glasses has a narrow short-distance field at the bottom, a wide middle-distance field in the middle and a narrow far-distance are at the top. My so-called "reading" glasses have wide short-distance and a wide far-distance fields, separated by a narrow middle-distance field. I was expected/expecting to use the "reading" glasses as default, switching to computer glasses only when sitting in front of the PC. It didn't turn out that way: I use the computer glasses all the time, with one exception: Evenings/nights when light is low, when driving the car, constantly having to bow my neck to get those traffic signs into the top area of my field of vision, really strains my neck. (In full daylight, I can can easily read them through the middle field.) So I have got my "reading" glasses parked in my car for far distance reading of traffic signs in (semi-)darkness. I am near-sighted. When I (finally!) got glasses around age ten, I was surprised to learn that all those star constellations such as the Big Dipper or Orion were more than mythology - you can actually see those stars making up the figures! :-)
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Same problems here. I ended up getting a cheap second pair just for computer work.
TTFN - Kent
computer version on order....
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
The issue I am having - doc says, "wear them for two weeks all the time, then let me know..." I have a 25" display to my left, and with the glasses, it is all blurry. Same level as laptop screen. Laptop is much better - directly in front of me. Reasonably clear. I think I need the computer version of the progressives.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
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No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
I've done progressives for years. The computer-generated version were not worth the extra money. There are things you need to get used to (actually, your vision will automatically accommodate some in a short time).
- The optimum visual field (for you prescription) is a vertical region in the center of each lens. More expensive lenses tend to have a wider vertical region. You'll tend to turn your head more to see clearly because of this.
- When first wearing them, looking down may give you the perception of a curved floor/sidewalk. This is one of the things you will accommodate.
- Mine are prescribed for computer use: the central field is focused optimally at about 3 feet (1 meter) and the infinite distance is a bit higher on the lens. You may not have done this.
- You'll not have as good a prescription as single-vision - you are making compromises.
If they didn't tell you why, the reason you've gone to bifocals is that your lens is less flexible and won't deform for the close focus as well as it used to. The only option to getting old is worse than bifocals . . .
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No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
I have two sets of glasses - one for far distance (used only when I drive), and one "office progressive" where the top part is suited for computer work, and the bottom is suited for reading. I find that the "progressive" pair has to be properly positioned on the face, If that is done, they work very well.
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No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
I wear progressives all day EXCEPT when writing code on my desktop. Two large monitors don't fit nicely through the narrow slit of the near field offered by progressives. I have a pair of cheap readers dedicated to desktop work. Two things to consider: - Normally focal distance for near field is calculated based on standard reading distance (~30cm). Screens are more like 60-70cm away. You can ask your optician to figure out what your specific need based on your distance between eye and screen(s). - Field of view area of the near field for progressives is about 30% of the lens area (or less). You have to move your neck a lot to see the whole screen, specially in dual monitors configurations.
Mircea
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No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
I wear progressives for everything BUT coding. For coding I have a pair of single focus with the focal point being about 18-20 inches, the distance from me to the monitors. Optometrist, knew exactly when I meant when I said I need a pair of computer glasses that match my prescription. (The vision care with my company health insurance allows me to get both pair as part of the benefit.)
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No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
I hate progressives, I got a pair last year and can't see close or far with them so ended up just getting a good pair for reading.
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No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Wore regular bifocals for years. One time, I tried progressives and gave up. Had to turn my head too much. I guess the tracks are wider now. 5 years ago, I had cataract surgery, left eye set for close, right eye for distance. I very rarely wear glasses. I do have a pair I wear for driving, corrects my left eye for distance. I have a pair of readers that corrects the right eye, only wear them if I am going to do a lot of reading. Works great. One time, way back, Optometrist wanted to sell me contacts like that, told her she was nuts. Should have listened.
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No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
I have a rather strong prescription ( -7.5 ) and I have been using progressives for a few years now, but I still have to remove them to see anything really close/small.
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No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
You need computer glasses. Everything in focus at an arm's length (or however far your monitors are from your eyes).
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I have progressives, and I found that they took a little getting used to. You need to make sure they are sitting on your face correctly. I find that if they slip down, then your are looking at the screen through the upper portion instead of the middle portion, and since the top is for distance, the screen gets blurry. I also found that having my monitors on a mount so that I am looking straight at the, instead of down helps to look through the middle of the lenses, keeps the glasses from sliding down, and as an added bonus, improves the posture.
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I agree. I have the same experience.
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I first got glasses (I'm short-sighted) around that age; stepping out of the opticians into the street was an astonishing experience - one I've never forgotten. I had no idea that's what the world was supposed to look like. Literally, a revelation.
I got my first glasses at about the same age. After that, I could actually read the blackboard clearly but I got teased mercilessly as "four-eyes" and such. :( That didn't last long as many of my classmates started wearing glasses over the next year or two.
My wife, on the other hand, started with glasses at the ripe old age of twenty-four. She is far-sighted and needed them for reading. Without them, she was having headaches from eye strain. On a daily basis, she does not do much close work — the closest she needs to see most of the time are the gauges and warnings on her dashboard. She and my children drive eighteen-wheelers for a living.
__________________ Lord, grant me the serenity to accept that there are some things I just can’t keep up with, the determination to keep up with the things I must keep up with, and the wisdom to find a good RSS feed from someone who keeps up with what I’d like to, but just don’t have the damn bandwidth to handle right now. © 2009, Rex Hammock
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No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
I had them for many years and still have a scratched pair for backup, but I always have a dedicated pair of single lenses for computer work, we spend so many hours sitting in front of the dammed things it is worth it. I recently started getting the $15 fixed lenses from the chemist/drug store (for the yanks) for reading as I find I no longer need glasses except for reading and computer work. Instead of spending $500+ on progressive glasses I spend $60 on 4 pairs and leave them where I need them.
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No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
I've decided not to get old :-D - I am still in the denial phase, but I think it will hit me latest when I am not able to read anything on my screen anymore.
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No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
Sounds like me some years ago or maybe decades. bifocals drove me up the wall. Trifocals were worse. I finally gave up and went with contacts. They have bifocals, too. Seemed to be more of an average between near and far. Great compromise. Always out of focus. Now I do contacts with mono-vision. One eye for near and one for far. It is surprising. Your eyes just do it for you. My prescription is very light, though. Maybe that makes a difference. I did bounce back and forth between contacts and glasses a few times along the way. Both were frustrating. Mono-vision is what finally worked.
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No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
I had cataract(SP?) surgery in one eye when I turned 64.(Yes SWMBO still needs me and feeds me then and now.) I am now approaching 72. The doctor put in a long range lens in. I now have 20/15 vision for objects 5 feet away or farther. However, when trying to read or look at a computer screen it's all blurry. I got glasses with a lens in the one eye that fixes it. Had to get the proscription changed at first so that it worked up to distances of 3 or 4 feet. I take them off when driving, etc. Took no time to get used to them. I never realized there were so many of us with eye problems!
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No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
You need a second set of glasses optimized for coding. A set of Walmart "readers" may work if you don't have astigmatism or left-right asymmetry in your vision.
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No, no, no politics - Eye glasses. I'm usually a single lense person, I really don't need anything to see up close (in fact I need to take them off, yeah, I'm getting old). The problem I have with single lenses is that I have to take them off to read anything up close. and I left them somewhere... never to be seen again I suspect. So, new prescription, and I bought progressive lenses. They work fine in the car and when reading a book but sheer crap writing code. The eye doc said it would take about two weeks to get used to them, but I'm not so sure. I have the computer version coming soon. Just wondering if any old people out there with some thoughts.
Charlie Gilley <italic>Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759
I have multiple cheap reading glasses. Which drives me nuts. They are only for really close work like carving wood or something. I have progressives. I cannot wear them to write code. Just cannot do it. Reading the notes here. I wonder if I should get some computer glasses with only that midrange single vision just for writting code on a monitor at about 2ft of distance. The progressives are awesome for everything else. Driving Oh my goodness wonderful. Reading. Sure. Playing with the phone. Yep they are great for that as well.
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